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| I am in the process of buying a new boat and was wondering what people's thoughts were on the Tracker Tundra vs the Ranger 620vs. |
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| seriously, dude its a ranger, is there really any comparison, and i dont mean to be cynical, tracker boats look nice in the water, look at how ranger finishes thier boat, better than my truck okay, plus its glass not tin, look at the resale value, also i heard tracker is cutting back, dropping certain models due to lack of sales, when people upgrade, and buy thier dream rig, they buy a ranger, even when i didnt own one, i wanted one, ever power loaded a tracker on a trailer? good luck with that one ....if you got time go to a tournament and watch people loading the ranger and than loading the tracker, you will be surprised. Its the little things that add up over time. I guess ride in a ranger than ride in a tracker and your decision will be short. Remember the pros that get them , get them for free , i would run one to if it were free... |
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| you'l pay 2x times for a ranger compared to tracker.............so limited funds trackers ok but like post above not many boats compare to ranger! |
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| Buy the Ranger, You won't be dissapointed. Ranger customer service has treated me well in the past for any issues that come up. I have not heard good things about trackers customer service. Good Luck The tracker probably has the better ride of the two. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Wait a minute here, the Pros that are on Tracker's factory team do NOT get their boats 'free'. There's no free boats out there. I've seen Tracker Tundras powerloaded at tournaments about a hundred times, never saw anyone have an issue with it, by the way. Many boat builders out there are 'cutting back' right now in one way or another; Ranger has cut production over the fall and winter too.
Best thing to do is talk to folks who own the Tundra and the Ranger in person, take a test ride, and compare dollar for dollar, feature for feature. Then you can make an informed decision.
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | I will say this. I will take the ride in a tracker anyday over the Ranger. I cannot handle the butt kicking ride you get from a Ranger. |
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| I personally own a Tracker 21 DC and my Buddy owens a Ranger. I will admit that the finish in a ranger is better then the Tracker but my buddy who has the Ranger even says you can not beat the ride of a Tracker. I power load my Tracker every time never have an issue. I would be more then happy to take you out in my boat and then you could ride in my buddys ranger. Then decide for yourself |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Bill, you are so right. If buyers would take the boats for rides back to back in the same conditions, it would not be a question.
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| Thanks for writing guys. Right now I have a 08 Ranger 1860 Angler and want to go bigger. I fished in a tournament last year where the waves were big and I tried going up river and just bout broke my back. Rangers do hold there value a lot better and look sharpe as hell but I dont like that if you go 19ft or bigger you have those side compartments coming all the way up to the back of the seats. I am looking for a boat to use around the pollock and mobridge area the most that I can use for cranking and pulling spinners. Any other comments will greatly be appreciated.
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Bosse
As far as holding value, the Rangers lose a bigger percentage from the original cost than most other brands. They simply start to high so it seems that they hold there value.
With that being said, buying a boat and looking at the resale value as a decision making factor is a bit off. This is being bought for your pleasure not your pain. You want to get in the boat, not dread it.
I would suggest if you are looking at 20fters to ride more than 1. The first one will be tons better than the boat you have today. Look at the tuffy 2060 and what it has to offer for as how you fish, you may be pleasantly surprised.
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| the pros on trackers team get their boats at no cost to them at the end of the season the sell them and tracker gets the money ranger only offers that to a select few |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Sorry if I hit a nerve nero, but I would like for you to go to the classified page, pick out 5 different boats from 4 manufacturers all from the same year and size catagory. Rigged really closely. They are there, I have done this. MSRP is about the only way to do this. fiqure out what the percentage of loss was then do some adding and I think you will see what I do. Basic laws of inflation, the product is never worth as much as it is claimed to be worth when its used and listed on the market. |
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| I think their is an old saying it goes like this: It is better to remain silent and thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt.
Tracker is not discontinuing the Tundra after 09 it is a special order boat. Every boat has issues. As I have said before I will take anyone out in my Tracker then you can decide which one rides better. |
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| Bill you wanna give me your email and send me as much info on the tundra as you can because im spending a lot of money and wanna make sure im happy with it. I would greatly appreciate it |
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| Bill - 3/9/2009 9:29 PM
I think their is an old saying it goes like this: It is better to remain silent and thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt.
Tracker is not discontinuing the Tundra after 09 it is a special order boat. Every boat has issues. As I have said before I will take anyone out in my Tracker then you can decide which one rides better.
I think that the saying goes "It is better to remain silent and thought a fool THAN (then???) to speak and remove all doubt". Looks like you have taken it upon yourself to point that out. You are indeed incorrect. There will be no Tundra after 2009. It is available as a special order THIS year. Once the parts inventory is gone, that's the end of that line. Good day, sir.
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| Wrong guest. Shows you know nothing. The Glass boat Tracker came out with this year is a fish and ski boat and will not be replacing the Tundra. You had better practice that quote I gave you.
Bosse look up Keith Kavajecz and Gary Parsons web site they will tell you all you want to know about the tracker and the truth. It is hard to go on a web site and ask a question like you did, because all you get is an anwser from close minded fools. I never once bashed another boat, gave you my opinion and offered to give you a ride the other two ding dongs never offered you that, but they did give you alot of fat to chew on.  |
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Location: Rhinelander | Gentlemen,
Posting permissions here do not allow brand bashing of ANY product or personal vendettas/train wreck arguments. Let's keep the discussion to the facts and get Bosse07 the information he asks for.
That said, the value of a used boat of any brand will be driven by availability(the more there are of a model on the used market, the lees they will sell for), original cost VS what the used market will bear, and how 'soft' or 'strong' the used market is at any point in time. MSRP is one way to check, or one can get a couple quotes on a new model, then look up used rigged comparably, and there you have it.
I know several folks who have Tundras, and have sold and bought new a couple times, no problems. What guest above describes is a 'memo bill', which is a far cry from a free boat. The builder invoices the boat at a higher amount than if the Pro pays cash in most cases, to be paid for at a date from 6 months to a year in the future, and when that date hits, the invoice must be paid. Obviously, if the Pro has a new boat every year, he/she sold last year's model. There's not nearly as many delayed billing contracts now as there were in the past...it's a tough market right now.
Good advice on asking Keith or Gary about the Tundra, find them at http://www.thenextbite.com |
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| Bosse I know that in the classifieds of the nextbite Chase is selling a brand new 09 for 47,500 with a 300 Verado. As I said Ranger does do an exellent job with their finish but like you, I do not like the layout. Look at both boats or all boat brands carefully and decide which one works the best for what you want any good dealer will take you out in one or let you know who has one possibly to ride in. I have never had a problem with customer service with Tracker. I will tell you to go with a 06 or newer Tracker because they did have transom issues but that was taken care of by the 06 model. The Tundra was a new boat in 03 as in alot of things new you will not know what the problems are untill the boats are run. At that time you can review the problems and take care of them which I believe they have. I had an 04 with a 225 opti, now I run an 07 with a 250xs and really like it. |
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Location: Appleton wi | I'v been in both boats but thought i would google and here's what i found http://www.consumeraffairs.com/boats/tracker.html |
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Location: Rhinelander | OK, several engine complaints, a weld broken, but no idea which model, and several about pontoons, etc. Most are pretty old, 3 from 2001, 1 from 2002, 2 from 2004, etc. Tracker is one of the largest boat builders in the world, so it stands to reason they'd have more warranty claims by a simple mathematical equation. This many over the last 8 years out of tens of thousands of boats is not even worth looking at. |
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Location: Appleton wi | Steve with all due respect i have to disagree. Many different brand of boats that are new and old have issue but its how the manufacture and dealer handles the situation.
So with being said we are all consumers here and i for one have had issue with a couple different brands and i can tell you this they were both handled in exact opposite ways so that is my point. Take care of the customer and there happy! |
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Location: Rhinelander | And the vast vast majority ARE taken care of. It doesn't matter which brand you look into, you can easily find very happy and very unhappy owners, there's always TWO sides to any story. If the very happy owners outnumber the very unhappy by a very large margin (as is the case here) then things are basically OK. |
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| I could by that. But from observation, it looks like in the Tundra's case (and some other Tracker models), a good number of the problems are not taken care of until there is a post on an internet forum about it - usually after repeated attempts to take care of the issue with customer service (which I agree should always be the place to start). I don't see that with other manufacturers, at least not the extent that you see it with Tracker. Just an observation.
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Location: Lincolnshire, IL | Before you sell your 1860 Angler, what is your background with Walleye Boats? Your question would suggest that you haven't been in many 20' boats, if you have, disregard the rest of my post. You also state that you experienced the rough ride on Tournament Day, IMHO just because it is tournament day doesn't mean it is WOT Day, that line of thinking is why I won't sign up as a co-angler...I don't want some cowboy driving me around at WOT in less than ideal conditions because they feel they HAVE to get there. What did you have prior to the Angler? Have you been in any 20' boats? If so, what types of conditions? For instance if we take the following quote from Stacker.."I would suggest if you are looking at 20fters to ride more than 1. The first one will be tons better than the boat you have today. Look at the tuffy 2060 and what it has to offer for as how you fish, you may be pleasantly surprised. "
First let me say that I have have an 1860 Angler, Let me also say that in my experience a 20' boat will handle/ride better than an 18'er...BUT, tons better!?! I am not sure how to quantify "tons" better, I think it is misleading. But I don't think that "tons" better is going to give you the right picture of what these boats are capable of handling. If your 1860 was giving you a rough ride in 2+ footers, don't assume WOT is possible in the 20'er in 3' foot seas, Because to me, tons better would mean that I could go WOT in 4' seas. In my experience the Captain will make the biggest difference in regards to the boats handling as will wave direction, travel direction, etc.
I fished 2 League events on Green Bay last year in some choppy conditions...I don't think I am over estimating if I say the waves avg. at least 2-3' for each event, maybe a bit more for the 1st event. NOw while I often feel at a disadvantage regarding my fishing skillsLOL, I never felt at a disadvantage because I was running an 18'er and many others were running 20'ers. Good Luck with your search and decision.
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Location: West Bend, WI | Back to the original question. The 21' Tundra is a great ride. I don't own one. I suggest you take some people up on the offers of a ride and see what you like. Having said that, I also believe there are alot of very nice boats out there. Just my 2 cents, but take some rides in some boats and see. Hopefully your post will get you some more offers. Also, I think that the extra foot somehow makes a different. Maybe someone can add to that theory.
Edited by weasel 3/13/2009 9:52 PM
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