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Location: Appleton, WI | which line counter do you prefer, and more importantly, WHY? |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | I have both the Sealines and the Okumas. I prefer the Sealines mostly because of the drag system. The Okumas have done OK for me, but the Sealines just seem to have a smoother drag. The Okumas are pretty touchy, it's kind of hard to find that "just right" drag setting. It always seems to be either too loose or too tight.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Okuma Magdas. The Okuma Convectors are a whole different story. I think the convectors are about equal to the Sealines. They're much better than the Magdas were. If it's Magda vs Sealine, it's Sealine all the way.
Edited by GNWC Rookie 10/8/2007 7:54 AM
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Convectors may actually have a much better drag system. |
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| I have the Sealines. Had a Magda, but got rid of it. The Shimano Tekota are pretty nice, but also pretty spendy. I'll stick with my Sealines. |
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Location: Appleton, WI | Yes, I was speaking of Magda.
Looks like I'll be putting my Okumas up for trade this winter.
Thanx guys! |
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| Sealines, overall seem to be the best all around. Good drag, no other major mechanical issues. Commands the price you pay. For those in the know, watch Fleet Farm sales. For those who don't, once a year they usually have them on sale with an unadvertised price usually around $20 off/reel. They just had the sale at the appleotn store about 3-4 weeks ago.
Accudepths, drags are lacking and not consistent. Quality isn't there for many years of use. But you get what you pay for. I have not used the new Accudepth plus, they appear to be better built. Maybe some others have input?
Okuma Magda's, the drag while adequate is very touchy, the level winds hang up on one end or the other from time to time.
Okuma Convectors, drag while still a bit touchy seems to better, reel construction seems better. Clutch disengage is a problem, while trying to payout line the cluth will engage. It's a nuisance more than anything.
Shakespear Tidewaters, most people will laugh but I like how smooth the drag is on this reel, the bait clickers are poorly made and will break very easily. Probably why they have a laughable reputation.
Any linecounter is still better than no line counter, even if it is inaccurate from a distance point of view, repeatability is so key to open water trolling. |
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| the accudepth plus's have the same drag the only difference is the accudepths are bushing driven vs bearing on the sealines. plus at 49 bucks each you cant go wrong |
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| Tezz, the Accudepth plus' has the same drag as the Sealines? Or the original Accudepths? Thanks for your response. |
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Location: Appleton, WI | I did pick up 2 sealines. Nice reels, as are the okumas. I love the loud clicker. The thing that bothers me about both brands is that the anti-reverse is not instant. Lots of slop, in that respect, especially with the sealine. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | What am I missing? Anti-reverse never seemed to be a problem while trolling for me. |
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Location: Appleton, WI | It is a problem for me, loading for the trip, and when packing up for the day. I like to keep the lines tight before I shove my rods in the locker.I dont have a fancy rod seperation system in my locker, yet. |
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| To store your rods, lossen the drag, wind the line up to put a bow in the rod, then thumb the spool to take the bow out of the rod. Only takes a second, and you should have a relatively loos drag when not using your reels anyway. |
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| "I dont have a fancy rod seperation system in my locker, yet."
Rob, do yourself a favor and get some rod socks. They'll save you lots of headaches in the rod locker. And they will also help protect your valuable rods.
I've told plenty of peple to get rod socks. My logic is this, if you're going to spend 50,75, 100 bucks on a rod, why wouldn't ya spend 3-5 bucks to save your rod from unneccessary wear and tear?
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | i have two tidewaters that i like also,, have them rigged for the big lake and also hold lead core well... i too like the clicker and drag system but are a little large seemingly clumbsy for walleye fishing ,, but man can they peel in a board quickly if you want too.. i do put them out when fishing the bay, they dont have line counters on them but for my outside boards work great and with the fish that take your harness up north they work great... i count swats more than use line counters although i do prefer the older larger diawa. if im buying a reel i want a good reliable drag, that doesnt tighten or loosen up by itself... i want to be able to flip the lever and let a board go out click click without me holding on to it and then jus hit the lever when its in position... i can set up six lines quickly and my bait isnt sitting on the bottom as i let line out... i want that thing to be set so any weight on that bait and i get a click or two out of my reel... and i want to be able to tightn down on that thing wile its in the rod holder to hook my fish... before i remove it from the rod holder... without spending 150 a reel what is the best by these days , i havent had to replace mine yet but when i do what should i buy if i want them to last..? |
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| I replaced all my Sealines with Shimano Tekota 300LC. Great drag and nice weight and size to balance out the light weight rods used for walleye trolling.
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Location: Appleton, WI | Jayman - 10/15/2007 11:38 AM
"I dont have a fancy rod seperation system in my locker, yet."
Rob, do yourself a favor and get some rod socks. They'll save you lots of headaches in the rod locker. And they will also help protect your valuable rods.
I've told plenty of peple to get rod socks. My logic is this, if you're going to spend 50,75, 100 bucks on a rod, why wouldn't ya spend 3-5 bucks to save your rod from unneccessary wear and tear?
Good Luck
"To store your rods, lossen the drag, wind the line up to put a bow in the rod, then thumb the spool to take the bow out of the rod. Only takes a second, and you should have a relatively loos drag when not using your reels anyway.
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Wisconsin..... Outboard Center of the World
Great tips guys, Thank you!
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| jayman i talked with the rep from diawa and the drags are the same 6 disc drags as the sealines they are basicly the old bushing drivin sealines remember the ones with the black plastic spool. i picked up 2 47 pluses and have liked them so far ive been using them mainly as muskie trolling reels but im sure they would work for whatever |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | We created a rod organizer in my side rod locker. We took golf club bag tubes and cut them down to a reasonable size for rod tips. We cut holes in some 1X6. The top edge of the golf tubes are pretty nice for keeping the tubes from sliding through the holes (the edge is only on the top piece of the tube).
On the other end for the rod butts, we took a piece of 1X6 and cut the same size holes in it. The rod ends sit in there while the tips of the rods are in the tubes. We also painted the 1X6's black so it looked more proffessional. Right now, I only have one side built in to hold 5 rods. I was more worried about keeping my spinning rods out of the way. I this gives me a lot of room to lay my trolling rods, but I think I'm going to add another organizer for 6 more rods on the other side.
This will still allow me a little room to put stuff in between the organizers. Let me know if you want any ideas on building something like this. |
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| GNWC Rookie,
I would love to see a picture of that setup. Sounds great. |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | I'll try to take some pics this weekend. It really is a pretty easy and inexpensive project. The hardest thing is figuring out how you want to secure them to your boat. |
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sealine or okuma, or?