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| That's right Rude is back on top. The new 250 H.O. Rude is now pushing the ranger 620VS 70 plus MPH. This speed was reported GPS at bull shoals during the product tour. The boat was chine walking like the bass rockets! |
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| 70??? seems like a big jump from just tickleing 60. Got some more data? |
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Location: Lake Erie | This was covered on the "other" walleye site, Eric Olson was testing this motor. |
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4 gals of gas, no extra gear, no TM, no kicker, 1 battery. I could see it. Maybe. With a tail wind, and a sanded hull. |
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| I've been running the 250 for a couple years now and trust me I've blown away plenty of "60 mph boats" on tourney day doing 60.  |
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Location: Rhinelander | Jayman, yup! |
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| I don't know what 250 you have been running but it was not the 250 HO. This thing is going to make you merc guys cry in your soup! |
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Location: Rhinelander | I'm not too worried about +any+ motor making me cry in my soup...
I'm sure it's a nice motor
So is the Opti XS
And the Yammy
And the Suzi
And so on.
Fuel being what it is, my rig will have a buck and a half Opti on the transom this year. I need a motor that will get me there fast with low fuel consumption, so this year it's a 150. |
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| Yeah I agree with Sworrall, with the fuel prices that are coming for the upcoming season I'll get there last with my 115 and save some money, at least for the waters and small tourneys that I fish. |
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| You're right that don't look anything like a 250 E-tec. I'd be real surprised that a tuned up 250 E-tec with an HO sticker is goning to get you 10MPH. But what do I know?
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| Really?
I saw this on the Bass Fishing Homepage...Jim Carroll NPAA #13
SUBJECT: # 93973: 250 E-Tec HO vs. 250 Opti Pro XS
Submitted by nanook (69.217.58.64) from ALABAMA on 1/13/2008 8:15:00 PM
The following data was gathered during the Ranger Dealer meeting this past summer...both Mercury and Evinrude personnel were on hand for rig set up purposes..
Engine: Evinrude 250 E-Tec HO (Evinrude guys were running the boat)
Ranger Boat: Z520
Prop: 26 Raker
Engine Height: 3rd hole
Misc: Full fuel load (40 gal) / empty live well / trolling motor, batteries
Top Speed w/ 2 persons: 72
Top Speed w/ 1 person: 74
Engine: Mercury 250 OptiMax Pro XS
Ranger Boat: Z520
Prop: 26 Tempest
Engine Height: 3rd hole
Misc.: Full fuel load (40 gal) / empty live well / trolling motor, batteries
Top Speed w/ 2 persons: 74
Top Speed w/ 1 person: 75.4
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | Z520 is a bass hull, is it not? Could that be where the difference is coming from - that someone has the heavier 620 hull confused with the 520 bass hull?
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Jayman, whos fish are you holding?
Wow, It is going to be quite the winter. 70 mph out of a WALLEYE BOAT, HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA |
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| Denny, Nevermind the fish. Look at the engine!
Steve, I agree, with fuel the way it's been, I do most of driving at a cruising speed usually around 4000 R's and 40mph. Saves on fuel and wear and tear. Most outboards do well in the 3500-4500 range for fuel economy.
Jim, like Brad said 520 vs the 620....the original post stated a 620VS. 72mph in a Bass boat ain't much to brag about there. The serious speed nuts in bass won't even mention Ranger in the same sentence.
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The 620 with 250 HO they are talking about Eric Olson and the Butter Boat,
stacker - 1/21/2008 12:08 PM
Jayman, whos fish are you holding?
Wow, It is going to be quite the winter. 70 mph out of a WALLEYE BOAT, HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | What engine, all I see is a refrigerator on the back of your boat. |
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| My comments were in reply to the poster who said the new HO was going to eat Mercury's lunch.
I'm sure EO did get his 620 going fast, he spends a lot of time working on his setups. He also said on WC that the boat would be basically unusable for anything but going fast. It was overpropped, etc. Jim Carroll NPAA #13 |
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| I believe he was using lightly salted butter LOL |
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| LOL Kirt, that's just plain funny. |
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Jim, like Brad said 520 vs the 620....the original post stated a 620VS. 72mph in a Bass boat ain't much to brag about there. The serious speed nuts in bass won't even mention Ranger in the same sentence.
Jayman, you are correct, that speed in a bass boat is slow by most standards. Ranger is not the choice for most bass afficionado's as well. |
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had someone call me late last night while driving across the frozen WI tundra and said there has been some stuff for me to check out, yup, just wanted to clarify some of the "stuff"
-My boat is a 620 (most of you know that already) and yellow, unsalted, preferably light whip as it spreads easier when its cold!
-The set-up that was over 70 was done just for fun as I had a goal speed of 70 I wanted to hit
-34 gal of fuel
-full rod locker dbl up totol 24 (forgot to leave them at home)
-4 stainless props
-kicker
-3 batteries
-misc tackle (not tourney load) light
-minnkota pulled off
-Detweiler Hyd jackplate
-1 person
Condition were flat, no wind achieved in 2 directions and the hull was not modified
Remember, I did this just to see how fast I could get it to go.
-Raker II 22 69.6 6000rpm
-Raker II 24 71.24 5800rpm
-Raker II 25 72.34 5650rpm
comarison is this
-full fuel
-3 people
-bowmt on
-everything else the same
-Raker II 22 66.6
Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to run the 24 in this set-up but will as soon as the boat comes back from Ranger "de-Butterized" before I get it to it's happy new owner.
THe z-520 Ranger- the fastest Ranger to date, used the same prop (25 Raker II)with the production engines (My engine is a production engine as well, not modified in any way!) not prototype( the dealer meeting in summer was a prototype) ran 75.3 (ranger personell test result)
Anyway hope this clears some things up
Tight Lines
Eric Olson
NPAA #165
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| I wonder if that spread would work on a TUFFY? |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Kirt, the Tuffy weighs in at well over 250# less than the 620. I would think that if that motor pushed the Ranger over 70, than it will darn sure push the "Thinner" Tuffy faster. This is amazing speeds to say the least, I would love to see one go that fast. |
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| Eric,
What will you be running for tourneys. Lets use Erie as one example and Cass Lake as another. How fast per each and hole shot for each as wellwould you guess.
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Kirt, the Tuffy weighs in at well over 250# less than the 620. I would think that if that motor pushed the Ranger over 70, than it will darn sure push the "Thinner" Tuffy faster. This is amazing speeds to say the least, I would love to see one go that fast.
So I should use this
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Location: Rhinelander | Uh, no. With Mr. Olson, we are talking BUTTER here...BUTTER! Sounds like a screamer!
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| None of that fake wimpy stuff, ok |
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| I can't believe it's NOT butter!
Moreyes, I think the secret is to spread it on the hull. |
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| Ancient Viking secret, allowed them to pillage more cities than the huns! Of course they used Lard and ate Lutefisk. Truly the first internal combustion propulsion system!
Jim O, Long time no talk, Hope all is well w you!
I'll probably run the 22 as of right now. great hole shot and good top speed. I am going to try the 24 Raker II as soon as I get the boat back. That will require a helmet, survival suit and electric Irish setters!
I need to complete a performance report on this combo as I just got a chance to run it one morning before the Ranger meeting in dec. and had to put it back on another boat.
I'll keep you posted
Tight Lines
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| Heres a photo of it
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| Stir stir stir...like churning butter
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| I am glad you took the time to let us know your results. I would have told anyone who told me they ran a 620 70mph they were nuts. You saved me the embarrassment!
Please let us know how it all works out with the 24 as well.
Best of luck next season.
Take care,
Jim O
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Location: Orland Park, IL | nice work. a real screamer.
Edited by M_komo 1/23/2008 10:20 PM
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| So now that the truth is out put your tail between your legs and go away. |
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| Doesn't everyone just love guest users?
Internet tuff guys hiding behind their keyboard cocking off to the whole world Perhaps some day when you can think for yourself, you'll come back and register and try to offer something constructive to the forum vs just pounding your chest like a teenager that can't handle their hormones.
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Location: Rhinelander | Truth is relative. We'll see what the new Rude does on a fully loaded tournament rig this coming soft water season. Looks like a great outboard for those who want to understand the term...ZOOM!
And what M.r Olson says is undoubtedly fact. |
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| There is performance bulleton on the Evinrude site featuring the Butter Boat |
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Location: Lincolnshire, IL | whos crying now - 1/24/2008 8:25 AM
So now that the truth is out put your tail between your legs and go away.
I don't know...do any of you guys ever wish you had a tail? I've often thought having a tail would be pretty cool. Of course then I would have to take all my pants to the tailor so that I could wear them with my tail. Of course I guess if I always had the tail my pants would already have been tailored to accomodate said tail. Do you think if you had a tail it would be covered with hair like a cat's tail or would it just have a bit of light hair like on your arms. Of course some people have really hairy arms so I would suppose thier tail would somewhat replicate their arms.
Do you think the person that started this thread really meant to call themselves "Lightning" rather than "Lighting"?
I wonder if the movie Cars would have been as popular with the kids if the lead character's name wa Lighting McQueen...
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| I wonder if tail was spelled wrong as well?
maybe tale???
which then takes on a whole new meaning!!!
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| Mr Worral,
If I got a video of a run next week would I be able to put it up here or would that not work?
Ole
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | To Eric Olson
Will you register using eric olson as your handle so we know its you when posting. There are guys that may stir the pot using your name.
This may sound petty but I always understood Rick Olson to be knicknamed OLE. I am sure you have had this since a kid, but the walleye world could get confused.
Thanks
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| Sorry Stacker,
Been doing email and guys I work with call me Ole! No problem.
Pot stirrers? on a chat site? really???? that couldn't be!
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Eric Olson - 1/24/2008 11:21 AM
I wonder if tail was spelled wrong as well?
maybe tale???
which then takes on a whole new meaning!!!
Eric NPAA 165
With answers like this it just has to make ya go HMMMM.....
Have it your way.
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| Stacker,
I think my last post may have come out wrong.... for that I apoligize. I was referring to another post that was made not yours.... sorry!
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | I was referring to the speeds that were posted, It made me wonder if the real eric olson was actually posting or if it was a "Tale". |
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| http://www.evinrude.com/NR/rdonlyres/751B6AB2-823F-40CE-92A8-19208E...
Here is the test report, 65 with a decent load, thats hauling the butter.
Might have to butter up the Tuffy |
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| It was the "real" me.
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Location: Rhinelander | Eric,
You bet it will work, let me know when you are ready and I'll see to it the video is posted. Looking forward to it! |
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