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Location: Appleton | Letters have not been mailed. I picked up two entries postmarked the third today.
Letteres should be out first of next week,
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| Was the tournament already filled or did those teams get in too? Thanks for the info, I'll be watching the mail next week!! |
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Location: Appleton | All teams that were post marked the third will be the first teams. first priority goes to teams that fished last year, second priority goes to the alternates from last year. After all those teams post marked the 3rd of March are entered we go to the new teams post marked the 3rd, If there are openings after that I will go to the fourth, fifth until all openings are filled.
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| Boat numbers out? Can't wait for the ice to go out now!! |
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| Are any of you guys getting your boat numbers back yet ?They said they should be out by now. |
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| rumor on the street has it that the Merc Nationals did not fill for the first time ever. Is this true???? |
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Location: Appleton | It Was over full the first day and Ack. letters are being mailed from Mercury today 3/24
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | How can that be Jim, who do you know? Not Filled said it was so that it did not fill. hahahah and the rumor mill starts. I heard that the only reason they filled was they let non-mercury brands in this year....is that true? hahahahahahahahaha |
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| Jim- If we don't make it in, do they just mail the check back or how does that work?
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Location: Appleton | All the alternate team's checks will be returned with their letter. |
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| Yea that's a good one Stacker .hahahahahahahahaha. bout as funny as the rumor that the delay in letters being mailed is they have letters mailed the first day from Fond du Lac and take ten days to get to Appleton. |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Not Filled? - 3/24/2008 4:08 PM
Yea that's a good one Stacker .hahahahahahahahaha. bout as funny as the rumor that the delay in letters being mailed is they have letters mailed the first day from Fond du Lac and take ten days to get to Appleton.
Oh, come on now "not filled", those be jokes, butch up now. Some times letters take longer to get some where than you think. If you mail in a big city its better than sending from small town to bigger town to another big town to a address. Jim just wants to make sure that those who have postmarked in time get in.
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| Who Cares?
Why is it so damn important to know if you got in today or 10 days from now? The tournament, the last time I checked, is still in June.
Even more ironic is some anon user who ain't got the gonads to sign his own name, yet challenge a credible tournament director on the internet. Now that's funny!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
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| I'm not sure how to interpret the 8 walleye in the livewell rule (new for this year). Are they saying we are only allowed to upgrade 3 fish after you keep your 5 fish limit, and then you're done?
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| Thumper, I think what they are trying to do is to reduce the impact on dead fish. 8 in the well instead of 10 (state alloted liimit for 2 people). Culling is still illegal so "upgrading" is not allowed if you put it in the well. If your weighing 8 fish I would guess this allows each person to catch one more fish and release one in the well? The bigger ethical question is what to do once you have 8 in the well and each angler has upgraded their 1 fish, If you WIN the tourney will there be a question on culling on the Lie Detector test? |
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| Limit is 5, 3 "upgrades" = 8 fish total. Upgrades meaing upgrade your weight. 3 fish better then 3 fish you currently have in your livewell.....where is there culling, Tyee? It's quite simple.
For an anti-tourney guy, I'm just curious how many tourney's you plan to fish this year? and also if you're related to Rick Larson? |
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Location: Appleton | In the past teams were allowed ten walleyes in the livewell and weigh the best five fish. In an effort to inprove the release rate we are limiting teams to eight in the livewell weighing the best five. This is not culling if you weigh the best five and have not replaced a fish you had put in your livewell. Teams will just have to decide which fish they want to put in their well and live with that decision as culling is not allowed.
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| tyee - 3/28/2008 7:58 AM
If your weighing 8 fish I would guess this allows each person to catch one more fish and release one in the well? The bigger ethical question is what to do once you have 8 in the well and each angler has upgraded their 1 fish, If you WIN the tourney will there be a question on culling on the Lie Detector test?
No, this doesn't mean you can each catch another fish. This means exactly what it says. 8 fish allowed in the livewell. Once a fish goes in the livewell, it is part of the days posession. Up to 8 for this tourney, and weigh your best 5.
What does ethics have to do with it? If you cull, you are breaking the law. It's not unethical. it's illegal. You guys always confuse the ethics and the law. |
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| So 8 fish is the possession limit. The phrase "in the livewell" was what was confusing to me. If that means the same as "possession limit", then I understand.
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | yup got boat noumber wed in the mail.... as far as the 8 fish possession limmit i guess im fine with that ... the new tourny its part of the rules of the tournament so thats the way iit is... once a fish hits your live well its part of your 8 allowed for the day.. plain and simple... fished the max lure last year on baggo... we went out in the morning knowing with the huge mud bite going on that if it wasnt over 20 inches dont bother putting it in the well... so we didnt ..throwing awy ft 19 inch fish was hard to do in the morning but NO culling means NO CULLING (CHEETING) ya we got peanuts thrown at us on stage because we only had like 13 lbs as we ended up keeping 17 inchers later in the day after throwing back 19s earlyer... but listn WE WOULDNT HAVE PLACED IN THE MONEY EVEN IF WE WAYED THE 19 INCHERS AND HAD 18 LBS. i think you needed 15 lbs to make the middle of the pack.. so whats the point.. ya we had a small basket on that day... so what ... its all or nothing.. now for a points cercuit we may have had a different plan? maybe 19 woulda been the line.. and then with luck hold out one fish or two in hopes of the 7 lb kicker but thats tournament fishing ... judgment on the water.. and being a good sport and following the laws and rules... you know when its wrong or right ... do the right thing! foul hooking culling cell phones ... we make a lot of freinds out there on the lake and in these tournaments... cant make a living fishing them ... dont cheat your freinds and dont cheat yourself... the only problem with the rule i have is ...... this,,, i pay the same if not more fee's than anyone else on the water that day... why is my possession limmit lower than joe Bob and his brother ... ?? tournament rules are tournament rules! you dont havta fish... if you dont wanna ...but if the state is holding a permit over a directors head over something like this i think its Wrong! i also think it would be nice if you had a few extra fish in the well at the end of the day that you could eat them.. some get foul hooded or whatever ... my wife to this day doesnt understand why i dont bring dinner home at least ... oh well .. just rambling again.. |
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| Jim I applaud you for taking this step to reduce the noticable kill rate during this event. 8 fish is the limit allowed in your livewell for the tourney right? not the posession limit correct? If so, once you have caught your 4 (5 and call it a day) You still can fish for a kicker and then release one of the fish in your well and be legal in WI as the alloted number per day is 5 fish, of course you have to pull your lines if you've achieved your 5 and wait for your partner to get his.
Jay, you know I'm not anti-tourney and I take offense to the thought and reference of Rick. I call it like I see it. and believe me I'm not the only one that sees it this way for these 2 major events on bago. And will continue to discuss this issue untill the tourney directors tell me that there will be no culling questions on a lie detector test or the state allows it.
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| "You still can fish for a kicker and then release one of the fish in your well and be legal in WI "
One of us does not understand Wisconsin Laws. No wonder Jayman picks on you. It's just too easy for me however. |
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| Why do you have to state this as if there is only one person fishing? ie., Once you have caught your 5th fish you are done. With only 8 allowed in the box, you will catch 4 at most, so you will not have to pull your lines. Weigh your best 5 and then toss the other fish, or keep them to take home. Your choice. Any fish caught and immediately released will not count towards your 8 fish livewell limit, or the state's possession limit. C'mon, this is not rocket science. Been that way in other tourneys for years.
Again, culling is illegal. I think the questions asked in a lie detector test, if one is even given, are the business of the tourney directors, and the authorities. Nobody elses.
Tyee, are you fishing the Merc? If not, we are you so concerned about any lie detector test?
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| Wi laws are 5 fish per day per person. What didn't I convey properly. Shep Tourney fishing IS only one person it is not TEAM. If you put 6 in the well you are breaking the law, you know that and maybe it has been done that way for years but it's wrong.
How many boats bring in limits at the last minute. There were very few at Otter or Merc last year that came in early so don't tell me that culling wasn't going on. This change now makes it more understandable that culling isn't allowed and frowned upon by others but yet still allows you to fish the rest of the day looking for the kicker. maybe perception was the key for the change but it is a good one.
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| Just so I have this clear:
Once a fish is put into the livewell it becomes part of the team's eight "posession limit" that the tournament allows. The only way you can remove that fish from your livewell, is to weigh it, or have it released by the tournament staff, in addition to the (5) that you did weigh. (I personally, can not legally release any fish that has been in the well) Or, after weigh-in, I kill the (3) remaining fish, and take them home for the table.
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| I know someone who won Merc a few years ago. From what I understand, they do cover quite a few topics like culling in the lie detector. They are pretty serious about making sure the winners did not cheat. Lets not forget some years back when a certain team was DQ'd for failing the lie detector. Maybe Jim O. can shed some light if he is allowed to talk about it. At least I know I won't have to worry about it, it's been quite a while since I've had to worry about having too many fish in that tournament. We're always on the right size fish, just can't seem to catch enough of them. Maybe this year. |
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| News flash.....as long as there are team tourneys there will be teams that cull until a better system comes along weather it be a tag system or some other means to idnetify each fish caught and kept in posession.
As for the culling issue, that's only one issue, bring in all the other good stuff with cell phones, text messaging, squatters holding a spot...etc. etc. etc. the list goes on. As long as their is money involved there will always be cheaters involved.
And yes, Tyee.....I do view you as anti-tourney. Why is it you ALWAYS.....ALWAYS question tounaments, tournament fishermen, and tournament directors? How about the poaching, the double diping and triple dipping that happens right in your honey hole, the Wolf river? Where are you when it comes to calling out those poeple? And questioning the locals?
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| "You can not release a fish once it hits the livewell. This is apparently something Tyee does not understand and is making it confusing for you."
Why can I not release a fish once I have upgraded it (as long as it is in good health)?
We catch and keep a 17" and four 18"ers. Then I get a 21 and throw back the 17. The 17 still counts toward my 8 fish, and I can upgrade 2 more fish. Why would anyone want to have more than 5 fish in their livewell? |
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| Wisconsin law states 'no culling'. Releasing it once you have taken posession (placing it in your livewell constitutes posession) is not legal, whether you are in a tournament or not. The tournament director holds a 'release permit' which allows him or someone appointed by him the right to release the fish. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | ok culling is replacing a fish in your live welll with another fish... you cant make room!!!!!!!! if 8 fish have hit your well reguardless of how many are in there now ! if 8 went in your done! wisconsin law permits ten walleyes.. 2 guys 5 per guy.. if you have 9 in the box and two guys fishing , one of the two in the boat are in violation.. better be running 3 lines not 6... here is the gray aria .. and the question that i have is ????? under current law you are allowed to release any fish at any time as long as it goes back into the same lake it came from , a week later if you want... NEW vhs rules ? fish must be dead when leaving the lake.. but does the current vhs rule not allow you to release a fish that was in a well or your posesion limmit? unclear.. jayman,,,, not to jump on you but i dont cull... and though i have suspected it from others i dont think there are that many doing it... tournament or not it starts with the indevidual ... just because you think others are ... is no reason to break the law and the ethics.. im not accusing anyone here... but if somone is culling there stealing from me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if i found out i would let them know... and i wouldnt be speaking in a low key voice.. at the weigh in... im not a perfect individual and i dont expect others to be... as far as the lie detector on culling.... what if your fishing a tournament and you catch 6 leagal fish and your partner (the net man) catches none.. as you have the pole in your hand because you SUCK at netting fish.... now what ,, the question in the lie detector test asks if you broke the law? hmmm did i over bag today? i reeled in all the fish? now im nervus and FAIL the lie detector!!!!!!!!!!!! now what !!!!!!! im a cheeter!!!!!!!!! just a thaught... how do you pass a test like that?
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| "under current law you are allowed to release any fish at any time as long as it goes back into the same lake it came from , a week later if you want..."
Is this a current Wisconsin law?
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | onother example.... lets say im fishing alone... i catch a 5 lb walleye.. (not a tournament) i take the hook out of its mouth and it shakes free of my hands and hits the floor hard on its nose! i put in in the box with some snap weight on it to keep it upright as it was floating belly up an might not make it... now 15 min goes by and the fish is happy and healthy... there is no law that im aware of that says i cant throw it back! unless some new vhs thing.... i can throw it back... i just MUST count it as my day day bag and possession.. so on a 5 fish possesion or daily bag i will only be able to take home 4 because i has the fifth in my well for a wile and chose to releas it.! its not culling unless i replace that fish with another! |
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Location: Appleton wi | After reading tyee post i have a feeling that he has been culling for along time but hasnt realized it. There is absolutly no confusion the way it is written or stated by merc rules or the state reg on culling. None of this is foriegn language but what does scare me that someone on here seems to have a inside contact with the dnr who post alot on here. Come on poeple dont read into something that is not there! |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | know what else is sad? if i catch 2 fish in the morning that are 15 and a half inches and they swallow my hook or cut a gill... the tournament lowers the bag for the day... do i do what i have always done? chuck em on ice and count them for our bag knowing i still have room to catch bigger ones or do i throw them back knowing there gonna die and that i will need the two open bag limmit spots for later in the day? ethics vs.. law and competive fishing vs... doing what is right in my head? going to an 8 fish bag for the merc.. good or bad does affect some decisions and ethical questions we all have to make...its not all black and white .all the time.... |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Exerpts from The DNR regulations…….. Statewide Fishing Restrictions It is illegal— Seasons, Bag Limits, and Length Limits • to take, catch, kill, or fish for any variety of fish in excess of the daily bag limit or total daily bag limit (see definitions page 10) • to group bag. For example, if an angler catches a limit of 25 panfish and gives them to another person, the person catching the fish has attained their daily bag limit and can no longer keep panfish that day. Any fish received are considered part of the recipient's possession limit, but not part of their daily bag limit unless they are possessed while on the water, bank or shore of the water, ice, or while fishing. • to possess or fish for more than the daily bag limit of fish while you’re fishing or while you’re on the water, shore of the water, or on the ice. • to sort fish. Any fish you take into possession which you do not release immediately is part of your daily bag limit even if it is released later. Here is info from page 10: Daily Bag/Total Daily Bag Limits The daily bag limit is the maximum number of fish that an angler may reduce to his/her possession from a specified waterbody or a portion of a waterbody in one day. The total daily bag limit is the maximum number of fi sh that an angler may reduce to his/her possession in one day from all waters or portions of waters fished for that day. An angler may combine the catch of a particular species from multiple lakes until the total daily bag limit is reached as long as the daily bag limit for each body of water is never exceeded. Be aware that while on the water you may not possess more than the daily limit for that body of water. For example, an angler catches a daily limit of walleye from a 3-bag limit lake. The angler can not then go to another lake with a 2 walleye limit while still possessing the 3 fish from the previous lake. |
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| Mercs rules state: "Only 8 fish allowed in the livewell at anytime"
I put (2) 17" fish in the livewell.
I then place (5) 19" fish in the livewell and throw the (2) 17" healthy fish back.
I then place (3) 21" fish. in the livewell, and throw (2) 19" healthy fish back.
I weigh (3) 21" fish and (2) 19" fish.
I never had more than (8) fish in the livewell.
I never had possesion of more than the (10) that the state allows.
Under Mercs rules, was this legal, or is Merc stating that (8) is my daily Posession limit?
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| Mercs rules state: "Only 8 fish allowed in the livewell at anytime"
I put (2) 17" fish in the livewell.
I then place (5) 19" fish in the livewell and throw the (2) 17" healthy fish back.
I then place (3) 21" fish. in the livewell, and throw (2) 19" healthy fish back.
"I weigh (3) 21" fish and (2) 19" fish.
I never had more than (8) fish in the livewell.
I never had possesion of more than the (10) that the state allows.
Under Mercs rules, was this legal, or is Merc stating that (8) is my daily Posession limit?"
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Location: Appleton | Eight in the livewell and you are DONE. When a fish is put in the livewell it counts towards you eight. If you upgrade you are not following rules. As I stated in another post the anglers must decide if they are going to put the fish in the livewell and live with the decision. Eight in the livewell weigh the best five. You are not allowed to replace a fish that was put in the livewell.
Eight fish is you tournament daily possession for the team.
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Inquisitive minds would like to know. Is that a self imposed rule that you have installed or were you told to do this by the DNR? |
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| Thanks for the clarification Jim |
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| Thumper under your scenerio you just painted you have just culled and broke the law! |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | i guess this is a good example , PAY ATTN at the RULES meeting on friday night or before any tournament because there may be things that are not on paper or need to be addressed or changed due to cercumstances beond our control.... jim has always been more of a black and white guy... no argument after his last statement ... no grey aria ... nothing... still gonna be fun... still gonna see our freinds and still gonna be competitive as the merc always is... looking forward to the rules meeting and good luck all... but i hafta admit without reading my rules yet for 08 . SHAME ON ME! ILL BE GETTIN RIGHT ON THAT ... AND IF THE RULE IS VAGUE .... as long as its clairified at the meeting or i have to bring it up myself .... its all good! thanks jim and the other inquisitive minds that wanna know.. we should all know this but lets face it ... rules they are a changing , like it or not... lets just keep them clear for all... good topic and great discussion! |
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| geuss I'll assUme that jim preferrs not to respond, I saw that he was on line the hole time, but said knotting
silence speeks volumes sometime
self imposed i guess
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| "Why is it you ALWAYS.....ALWAYS question tounaments, tournament fishermen, and tournament directors?"
Well because if EVERYONE followed the rules it would be a level playing field. The Walleye world has a long way to go to catching up with the Bass guys. It's obvious that my initial statement and subsequent discussion created questions in a lot of minds.
Maybe someone will think twice before they cull if they know the question could be asked on a lie detector. Thank you Dennis for posting the rules (you've been lurking for a while haven't you? I see Thumper has his answer, Wisconsin Laws learned that you CAN release a fish that was once in your posession, (Unfortunately not in the Merc Nats this year) and Eye Lunker no I haven't culled since I was 6 fishin trout ponds which was a long long time ago and have embarked in many discussions on the topic ever since I lost a money check to a team that I KNOW was culling.
So Jason NO I am not anti-tourney, I would like to see it cleaned up and the cheaters booted! This will all change next year as the NEW rules will allow a tourney angler to place a fish into the livewell to revive it. POSSIBLY making all this discussion pointless anyway.
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| Mr, Guest. Please re-read the following sentence in mrmodog's post (which I copied in my post):
"Under Mercs rules, was this legal, or is Merc stating that (8) is my daily Posession limit?"
Do you see we stated a scenario and then ASKED if it was legal? Jim responded very clearly and those of us that had the question have been answered, and we appreciate that. I assure you, I have and will play by the rules set forth.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Tyee: I do not lurk. Prowling and/or creeping around is not my style. I have actually been AWOL from WF for while. I have been a little busy and focused on a few other things. Next time we meet, ask me about my robotics team and how we made it to the world competition. I have no problem with you questioning tounaments, tournament fishermen, or tournament directors. That doesn't make you anti-tournament only inquisitive and thought provoking. This thread is a classic example, looks like a few people learned something. If we do not question our own practices, in a professional manner without name calling, we'll never grow as a sport.
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| "This thread is a classic example, looks like a few people learned something. If we do not question our own practices, in a professional manner without name calling, we'll never grow as a sport."
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| Thumper my point is this! All tournaments and fisherman in the state of wisc have to abide by this rule of "any fish replaced out of the live well with another counts toward your daily bag limit" this is culling! So if a 10 fish or 8 fish limit imposed by tournament director it doesnt matter you cant cull in state of wisc. and its been that way for many years! |
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| Guest, I am not sure what point you are arguing. As Jim explained, the possession limit is 8 fish for this tournament. If we catch and keep our first 5, and then catch a bigger one, it is LEGAL (by state and Merc rules) to throw one back from the livewell and keep the larger one. Our possession total is 6 fish at that point, even though we only have 5 in the box. We may upgrade 2 more fish LEGALLY (again by state and Merc rules) in the same manner, and then we are done. We have reached our 8 fish possession limit, even though we only have our 5 weigh fish in the box.
Illegal culling occurs if you keep ugrading AFTER you have reached your possession limit. It's that simple. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | well , reading my merc national rules it states in BOLD print.. NEW FOR 2008! ONLY 8 FISH ALLOWED IN THE LIVEWELL AT ANY TIME. thats all it says , so combined with the state law... on possession and bag... some of the situations and examples listed prior by anglers searching for clarification should not be met with the (you should know better you dumb^&(&*(%&*(% ATTITUDE ! THIS IS NEW FOR 2008 . JIM CLAIRIFIED IT AND SAID EIGHT FISH IS GOING TO BE YOUR YOUR BAG FOR TWO GUYS... ONCE THERE IN THE WELL THE ARE COUNTED FOR YOUR POSSESSION LIMMIT OF 8... yes he clairified it but anyone that read the rules and read them for what the are... again NEW FOR 2008! only 8 fish allowed in the livewell AT ANY TIME. INTURPRETS THE RULE AS DONT HAVE MORE THAN 8 FISH IN YOUR WELL EVER.... so dont jump on people for the way they read the rule .. im sure it will be re-written next year or who knows but lets make sure this comes up at the meeting and everyone knows... thanks agian JIM for making the yet another call and decision swiftly and firmly . thats all we can ask i guess. |
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| I think this has been a very good discussion, (with the exception of a few pompous, rude posts, as always). Guys were asking for clarification of Merc's new rule, and Mr Coon jumped in and made it clear. If these types of questions and examples are not raised, how does one know? That is one of the reasons I visit this site, the open sharing of information and knowledge.
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| Regarding the lie detectory test it is interesting if you have never done it before and I believe that if you have something to hide, they will find it out.
Regarding the possession rule, if it is in the livewell it is part of your limit... period.
If you catch 2 19s right away and put them in your livewell, and then fill out your limit with some 23s, I would suggest that you bring all 8 in to the weigh in. If I were to see someone removing fish from possesion (livewell) and tossing them back during a tourney, I would question how many fish have been culled from said livewell. It has always been my understanding the you bring in all fish that you have had in possession to avoid the appearance of impropriety
Take care,
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Location: Chilton | Bringing 8 fish all the way back to fondy in the livewell doesn't seem to be in the best interest of the fish that are going to be released. I interpret the rule as limiting the "upgrades" to 3 fish throughout the day. A fish that is destined to be released without counting towards your 5 weigh fish would be much better off being released at the spot on the lake where the upgrade is being made, rather than traveling longer than needed in the livewell. Just don't do it more than 3 times per day.
That is how I interpret the rule. Is this wrong? |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | eyeobye has a point .. a sportman will let them swim... jim has a point too, but i trust my fellow tournament guys.. if you have been fishing for some time.. you realize that your typical tournament angler is more trustworthy than anyone else on the water... a person sends in 300 dollars maybe 700 maybe 50 ... i wouldnt send my money in if i thaught that the guys are cheeting... neither would they.... a few out there get a little sneaky and word gets out... quick , i dont know about you but i like to look my fellow competitors in the eye... there good guys and gals.. this is not a money making hobbie... you could win the next 3 tournaments you enter and still not recover what you have invested..... and if the winning boat comes in with 5 fish in the well,, fine by me im not gonna reck there dream day on the water with a comment about how i saw them throw 3 fish back before they made the 20 mile run to the scale... if they threw back 4 and weighed 5 im thinking there might be an issue..though lol,... good luck good fishing and from my experience 99% of your fellow anglers are stand up individuals and teams that wouldnt wanna win that way! lets face it if you need to cheet to win your not a good angler.. and if your not a good angler you can cull all day long and you still wont win... traditionaly your gonna need with 5 fish 16 or 17 lbs a day... plan to keep the right fish... honestly whats the diff between finishing 40th and 100 th .... nothing ... small small check or some prizes .... ??? it ain worth it... go for the win! leave a spot open both days for the 7 lb kicker... never know with a little luck you might top the 300 boat field ! wouldnt want to have an asterus * next to your name ... even in your own mind! remember,, good folks make mistakes too! it seems like every year someone gets DQ'd for bringin in a sauger... do you think these guys dont know what a sauger looks like? the get a hefty fine from the dnr and look like idiots.... somone slipped up... it happens sometimes... |
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