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Location: Arcadia, WI | Well - its been a while in the making, but my new X190 just arrived at Holman Marine - she is one sweet looking ride. It will be sporting a 200 Etec very soon.
I'll try to post some pictures once I figure it out..
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Nice looking rig Rick! |
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| Congrats on your new Tuffy Rick! |
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| Shweeet!
That looks great. I can't wait to hear how they perform. Keep us updated.
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | Well,
I guess I won't be the first guy in the area to own one. I'm pretty sure that this will be the boat I get when I decide to have a nice boat again. This will be the ultimate river machine.
Congrats, and enjoy. |
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| I won't have to sit in the back of this one while running down the river will I?  
Or have to pump the bulb to go faster?
Nice looking rig
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| Awesome color combination! I really like it.
Keep us posted on the rigging, and the performance.
Congrats! |
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Location: Berlin | I think that boat was made just for me! Nice Rick, can I have it? |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | Fireflick - you have earn a seat in the front of my boat, but if you keep talking about pumping the bulb you might not even get a ride.
I might need to go through your spare prop inventory during the tuning stage..
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| This boat is under strict lock and key and I am charging admission to touch it.....ha ha. Dale here from Holmen Marine LTD. Rick had a lot of influence in the development of this boat along with Zach and it was made for the Mississippi River Tournament Angler. Rick has decided to go with the I-Command Lowrance Gauging to make this a true high performance machine. I would be more then welcome to show anyone this boat in the upcoming week as we are rigging it. Please stop in at Holmen Marine as I would like to set one of these up for YOU. We offer Mercury, Yamaha, or Evinrude outboards so the choice totally up to your liking. E-mail me at [email protected] or stop on in Saturday 9-5 or M-F 9-5:30. Please give me a heads up so I can expect your visit. Our address is 116 Holmen Drive, Holmen, WI 54636- Just 10 minutes north of LaCrosse- as short drive from almost anywhere! This is one sweet rig with a distinct passion for speed. |
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| Sweet boat. Is this boat also available with a tandem trailer? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest - 3/16/2008 11:49 AM
Sweet boat. Is this boat also available with a tandem trailer?
Yes, this boat can come with a tandem trailer. However, it's light enough, at #1300lbs without a motor, and just over #2000lbs. with a motor and fully rigged. So there is really no need for a tandem trailer, but the option is there. |
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| So Rick, were is the food compartment/cooler for Jay? Nice boat. Too bad we didn't get to see you and Nell in Genoa. Soon though.
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| Are there any updated rigged pictures? would like to see this boat fully rigged. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest - 3/20/2008 12:23 PM
Are there any updated rigged pictures? would like to see this boat fully rigged.
Guest, what would you liked to see? I can take pics of my X-190 that is sitting in the garage if you'd like? Still finishing up a few things in the way of rigging but let me know if there is something particular you'd like to see more of. |
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| Is it available with a full windshield? That really would make it the ultimate river boat!!! |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Unfortunately it's not available in a full windshield. Only available in a single, dual and tiller models.
Here is the link.
http://www.tuffyboats.com/boats/x190
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| It is not available in a full windshield only due to our perceived demand. If we see a demand for that model we would make the full walk-through windshield available. |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | Brought the boat home tonight, but still have a few things to do before its water ready. I should have this on the River (pool 7) this Sat for the maiden voyage.
Watch for updates..
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | WOW! Looks very sharp! Now only if it had a black thing on the back, just kidding. Very nice rig! Did you put a thru-hull transducer for your console sonar? I'm tryin to figure out the best place to rig the transducer. |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | TJ,
Thanks for the comments.. Yes, put the thru-hull puck in up close to where the hull thickens (where the pumps are mounted). I'm hoping I like the reading, but have a high speed puck for plan "B".
As for the single axle trailer - this towed very well behind my Yukon and I save over a $1000.00 not needing duals. Very nice trailer with surge brakes and the back-up overide.
Shelley - the cooler is built-in and the passenger console is bigger than a bread box
See ya on the water soon.
Rick
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | So,
How did you like the ride. I saw you on 7 with this rig yesterday. That white motor really stuck out. I could see it from about a mile away. |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | Boat is running good, but still playing around with props. Went through several and the RakerII 22 is close and around 60mph. Going to try Zach's Tempest 23 later this week. (tried cyclone 21, viper 21 - both mid 50's, raker II 26 - way too big).
Tried out Motorguide's DS82 trolling motor - very nice, very easy to deploy, and even works off an optional remote fob - best of both worlds in trolling motors.
Special thanks to Dale @ Holmen Marine and Jarard Flukiger for props..
Rick
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Rick,
How did the thru-hull transducer work for you? Did you maintain depth reading at 60mph? Curious on how it did. Toying with the idea of ordering that puck. |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | TJ, Thru-hull worked great, maintained readings @ all ranges.. Puck is mounted towards the back where it thins down behind the pumps (6-8" back of the floor access).
Also - the 522IC worked well mounted on the bow and tilted - no signal loss all day.
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| Hi. I ordered an X-190 about a month ago with the E-Tec 200 and had a few questions for you while I'm waiting for mine to arrive. What were the RPM's you were running with the Raker II 22 pitch? How high is the motor mounted on the transom? And do you have a kicker on the transom while you are running these props?
My friend that runs a Champion with an older Evinrude 200XP is running a Renegade 24 pitch that was modified to 23.5" and I had thought that the 4 blade prop might be a better choice based on what I had seen and experienced from that rig.
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| 2.6L E-Tec, I assume? That is a great color combination. |
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| The 200 is the little one, couldn't see hanging an extra 100# on the back just to burn more gas. Ticked me off I couldn't get it in blue to match the boat top. It will have a 9.9Pro Kicker on the back so I hope ebony and ivory get along together. |
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| Wow, that X190 does look awesome, you said earlier you could take a picture and post it?
If it isn't too much trouble, could you take a picture of the back casting deck with all of the lids closed? Maybe from between the consoles looking back?
Also, can you give me an approximate cost of this boat rigged up just like you have it? If you don't want to post it I understand.
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| Well Phish Phinder, we got tired of waiting for you to the prove that the 190 is a fish-catcher so Dale and I took matters into our own hands. Also, be sure to ask Dale about our high tech fish locator.
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | That looks like one of my favorite spots on 7. Good job guys. That Red/Whtite 190 looks pretty good. Wish I could say the same for Dale |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | ABG,
I just got through the break-in of 2x oil today.. Etec needed 2 hrs of over 4000 rpm to meet this.. I was also having some cavitation problems at full trim along with some strong left tilting on take off. The motor was located fairly high, the 2nd hole from the bottom, and now has been lowered to the top hole. This has resolved the tilt and still has a nice hole shot.. With the Raker - I'm getting plenty of lift yet, but still not turning RPMs (5400 max - I should push 5900). I had hopes to run several more props, but my Flo-Torq hub kit didn't have a bushing I needed (I have this ordered). All the Renegades I seen were odd numbers, and they are also a small dia hub so 23-24 is not surprising.. Now that I have the boat running flat I mounted my T-8 today so next outing I will re-run the Raker then swap to the Tempest and maybe an old Preditor 4 blade I have laying around.. I don't doubt a 4 blade will be the nicest over all, since other boats I ran seem to run well also.
Zac/Dale,
that really looks like a spot you poached from Jay and I (from Friday) - shame on you two..
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| Rick, wrong pool. See you tuesday if not earlier.
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| Thanks for the info! I was at my friends place up north this weekend and you are correct! The Renegade he has was originally a 25 pitch that a prop shop modified to the 23-24 in range when they did a repair for him. Something about a prop and a rock and a fast boat that just don't mix well. He was running in the 72mph+ range with that prop/jack plate with the XP but his boat is only 80" wide in the back and probably designed more for pure top end. Speed is nice but a good fishing platform comes first!
I have a 20 pitch Raker on the shelf at home and now with your input, I think I'll keep that one around when I get rid of my old boat. It might come in handy.
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Location: Arcadia, WI | Out again tonight, but fell short of the goal.. Picked up the Flo Torq hub kit and found out my 200 has a new for '08 M2 gear case that appears to have the slightest change and is not compatiable with the standard Quick Silver insert so I didn't get to run the Tempest again - back to the drawing board.. Hung the T-8 kicker and had about 25 gals of gas for tonight and still ran 5400-5500 rpm right around 60mph. Also ran my old Preditor 4 blade 26 (small hub) for something to do - got it on plane, but had a lot of exhust blow by as the weed ring didn't fit well.
Zach - thanks for stopping down - Dale's checking on the hub adapter kit.
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| If it isn't too much trouble, could you post a picture for me?
I would like to see a picture of the back deck, with the lids closed, maybe from between the consoles back. I am really liking this boat, and it looks in one of the pictures that it may have a good sized rear deck, but there aren't many photos of this boat out there yet.
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Location: Arcadia, WI | jgd,
I will try to get this picture for you (I thought I had one - can't find it).. I took the deck out last week to get ready for trolling, but will drop it back in for you.. The rear deck extention is 18" wide + the livewell lid - so its very comfortable offering tons of additional storage. The rear pedistal/bike seat or full seat is also nice. I'll try to post another pic of a rear deck in the 1890 also.
Please contact Dale @ Holmen Marine (608 526 3345) for all your pricing inquiry.
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Location: Arcadia, WI | jgd,
Here's the pictures of the rear deck in the X190..
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| thats awesome, thanks |
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| One more question, is there a passenger side rod ramp or anything on the X190? |
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Location: Arcadia, WI | No rod ramp, but the pedastol & roomy console offers lots of room. My friend had 6 rods w/ the other day with room for more (even more room w/o the extention).
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| When I fish I carry at least 3 large lakewood muskie boxes, plus my partners stuff, typically Tuffys dont have much floor space, I looked at an 1890 and was less than impressed with the layout. I dont care how it looks or how fast it goes i need it to perform how I want it to. How does the 190 stack up as far as storage. Currently running a 619, looking for something else. MAYBE. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest, honestly, this is a Tuffy board. It's like asking guys about a Tuffy on a Ranger board. Most guys that reply on here own Tuffy's and really like them. I'd really suggest taking a look at one in person. I personally think the layout in a 1890 is better than a 619 but that's me. Everyones opinion is different, the best thing to do is actually check out an X-190 in person and make your own opinion about the boat. I think you'll be surprised on how this boat compares to a 618.
Not sure where your located, but I go to school in central Wisconsin and live in northern Wisconsin, if your interested, I'd be glad to show you my X-190. Just let me know. But I think with all the pics on this board, you can probably get a feel for what it looks like. But let me know if your interested in seeing one.
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| Guest,
Go take a look at one, the added a couple more inches to the rear floor space on the 08 1890 by shortening the splashwell.
I am just a average joe six pack and I really like my 1890 an the fishability |
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| Wasnt at all trying to start a tuffy vs ranger thing. We really dont want to go there. Mercid, honestly, I should know better than to get on a tuffy site and ask a question about a tuffy. so stupid sometimes. sorry |
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| Three lakewood boxes are a tall order for any boat, esp a musky boat where many of the buyers require the ability to fish two guys on the front deck comfortably and a center rod locker that will fit an 8.5 footer. That eats floor space in a 19 foot boat.
The side storage in the rear of the ranger takes up alot of the floor space, the 190 is open the full width of the boat, the ranger has a shorter front deck, the 190's is larger which shortens up the main floor space, those are the major difference in the layout (summary the tuffy has much wider floor space but it's not as deep).
Alot of the people that get in my 190 comment on the ability to flip the passenger seat around 180 degrees when trolling, something the can't do in the 619-621 due to the rear storage being directly behind the seat. It's also alot easier to set a trolling rod (esp in rough water, or if you have back issues like I do) when you don't have to reach over a side storage compartment. To some people these things are valuable, to others they'd rather have the enclosed storage, it boils down to what your needs are.
In alot of cases, if you run a rear storage deck the lakewood boxes will fit insides, it was made to take these boxes. Best way is to locate one at a dealer and drag the boxes along to check out if it will work for your particular needs.
Any other questions feel free to ask there are plenty of people here running the boats that should have the answers you're looking for. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest,
I didn't mean it in a bad way. I'm just saying every person is different when it comes to boats, a truck brand they drive or the type of fishing reels one uses. All I'm saying is, go and take a look at a Tuffy yourself and you decide if you like it. Asking guys on a Tuffy board about how it stacks against a 619 isn't a fair question. For one thing, a 619 is comparable to a 1890, not a X-190. An X-190 is comparable to a 618. If your going to compare boats, compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk here, all I'm saying is, majority of guys if not all the guys here will say how much they love their Tuffy, me included. I personally love the layout in a Tuffy versus a Ranger. I've got more storage than I know what to do with and if you add the back deck extension you can add even more storage. I can put up to a 8'6 rod in my center rod locker, that's pretty good for a 19 foot boat. I honestly don't have one bad qualm about the two Tuffy's my dad and I have owned. I will be running the X-190 this summer and I think it's going to be awesome.
Now you mentioned about carrying three Lakewood tackle boxes and your partners equipment. Here is my take on it. If you do not have the back deck extension, carrying three Lakewoods and your partners equipment shouldn't be a problem. Now, if you were to go with a back deck extension, here is what I would suggest. I don't have a Lakewood, I put all my muskie lures in plano boxes. I then pack the boat with the gear I think I might use that day. I use so much of the same stuff for the lakes I fish and barely ever have to switch stuff out. But in my opinion, I think there is more than enough room for gear.
I hope this helps and if you have any other questions I'd be happy to help if I can.
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| finding room for the big tackleboxes is an endless challenge!
on my 1890 last year i put boxes (one lakewood, one dunwright) on the front deck in front of either console. they stayed put even in moderately rough water. plus the deck's long enough that they were never in the way, even with two people fishing up front. the X-190 has even more front deck space since the boat's longer by 5 or 6 inches, so i plan to do the same thing again this year.
i added the rear deck insert to my X-190, meaning less floor cockpit space, but more under-deck storage...i'll be sticking my trolling gear in there.
oh yeah, almost forgot...my new X-190 is here too! 
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| Looks really nice thanks for posting the pics. I do put all of my hard baits in plano boxes, the lakewwods i carry are for my endless supply of large plastics that i will not leave home. Just like walleye fishing i carry six of everything and that will never change. Maybe i need to go back to a big tiller. hmmmmmmmm. |
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| Looks really nice thanks for posting the pics. I do put all of my hard baits in plano boxes, the lakewwods i carry are for my endless supply of large plastics that i will not leave home. Just like walleye fishing i carry six of everything and that will never change. Maybe i need to go back to a big tiller. hmmmmmmmm.
here's a picture that gives a good perspective of the size of the front deck on the 1890. you can see one of my Lakewoods in the lower right in front of the console and how it's not in the way at all.
the X-190 deck is just slightly narrower, but a good bit longer...seems bigger overall to me when you're standing on it.
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| was out doing a little load balancing tonight and getting everything set for the season.
ran it up to 64.5mph on the gps at 5450rpms on a couple runs.
she started to chine walk a bit at that speed so i backed down since i'm not that good of a driver yet when it starts to walk.
full load of all my fishing gear, 1/2 tank of gas, and two full-sized guys; 23p Tempest prop.
that's the closest i've been to WOT (which is 5750rpms according to the Opti's manual); once i get more familiar with the way this boat handles and the "art" of steering out of the chine walk, i'll get the trim up higher and that extra 300rpms should tab another couple mph's on the top end.
but really, much more impressive to me is still the mid-range driving: running 20-25mph on plane at less than 3000rpms and 35mph at ~3400 rpms is going to be a great fuel saver on those long runs on Petenwell or Vermilion or a good place to run the boat to cut waves when the weather's up.
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