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| Any word yet?
It seems the condition's were perfect. |
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Location: Berlin | The marsh next to my house appeared ot have the perfect amount of water and from what I heard was FULL of walleyes earlier. |
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| Surpirised not to hear anything. I to was told the marshes were full.
But no one seams to be saying how it went.
Mr Kamke can you share some info
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| From what I understand, typically the spawning success info won't be available til they do the late summer/early fall trawlings. Where they will count the young of the year and make an assessment then of the procedeing springs spawning success.
In other words, it's a wait and see game right now.
My arm chair biologist opinion is: we will see an excellent year class of walleyes from this years spawn. |
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| Schmitty,
Jayman is right, there will be a final summary completed by the end of November that will tell us how this years spawn went. They compile data from the Trawling events of July Aug and Sept. These 5 day per month trips yield the number of various fish in the system and along with the fall shoreline shocking of Walleye on the lake they confirm previous years data. This gives an indication as to the numbers exploited (caught and kept) and the size and year class of other fish along with the amount of prime Females in the system. All in all they gather a ton of info to manage it.
My opinion of this years hatch lays out like this. Over the past 10 years we have had 5 GREAT years 3 average years and only 2 poor years. My data shows that a high flow year is best but only when compared to a higher water temp year. This year the temp was lower than past succesful years. I don't know why but have the opinion that the higher temp when combined with the higher current could play a part in the actual fertilization process. Either way it looks to be an above average year so I guess the answer to your question is yes another good year Not as good as '96, '01, '04, or '05 and maybe as good as '03 but better than the rest for sure, but the truth won't be told untill November.
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| I don't know if it helps at all, but I know I spawned several times in April.
Boy, am I glad I don't have to swim 35 miles to do that.... |
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| Thanks guy's
Thumper you may not have to swim 35 mile's but I bet you have to jump through more hoops.  |
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| You are correct...all I'll say is there is a 37 point checklist that must be filled out prior to any spawning attempt. I won't get into details, but there is blood work and a notary public involved. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Tyee,
I'll play devils advocate and use semantics to dilute your answer. I'd say that they know how the spawn went and have a good idea of the success.
This fall, they'll determine the survival rate of various year classes including this year.
I'll bet that the DNR has a good idea now of how successful that spawn was. They were there, they saw the males and females, and they took samples and took eggs. They know the water temperature and water conditions. They also know what the weather patterns and water flows are/were after the spawn. Their years of testing and sampling have already given them a ball park of the condition of the spawn.
You already gave your gut feeling from your observation. They can do the same.
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Location: Menasha, WI | I'll see your semantics and raise you with a classification change -- while the spawn numbers are important, it's survival rates that really matter. Thus, the Y-o-Y counts are far more important information for our purposes.  I don't really care how many baby walleyes hatch, I care about how many make their way from the river to the north end of the lake.
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| How come I picture Thumper hanging out at a fertility clinic trying to pick up women? |
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| Jayman, please stop picturing me doing anything, anywhere. I do not wish to be part of your fantasy life in any way....lol
I think there is a joke in here somewhere involving a fertility clinic, spawning, Jerry's naked picture and noodling. Lets see PS come up with a graphic for that one. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Viking - 5/7/2008 1:13 PM I'll see your semantics and raise you with a classification change -- while the spawn numbers are important, it's survival rates that really matter. Thus, the Y-o-Y counts are far more important information for our purposes. I don't really care how many baby walleyes hatch, I care about how many make their way from the river to the north end of the lake. Well then, This whole thread is pointless to you. |
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Location: Menasha, WI | Sunshine - 5/7/2008 1:38 PM This whole thread is pointless to you. :) After visions of Jerry naked, Dave in a fertility clinic and Jayman noodling, yeah, that about sums it up |
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| Now thats a SCARY thought! I'll add to my observations for you though Dennis, My data is a bit more scientific than that of the DNR in that it contains historical data about the weather conditions, the flow rates, water temps and water elevations, I combine that data to that of the DNR to come to my conclusions for the given period relating to migration, distance traveled, spawning locations and the subsequent data for the 21 days post spawn to determine weather or not the ride back to the north end of the lake results in a "good" year or not. HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT calculated into this formula the potential for morphidite fish created by the above image that would never be able to FIND the north end of the lake................
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| Regarding semantics, would it surprise you to know that during the '96 year class (most sucessfull on record) the flow rates were amoung the highest recorded during the spawn period and yet the other succesfull year classes the flow was at the lowest over the same 20 year time period compared to all others that resulted in less than favorable hatches....hummmm
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | LOL.....please take me out of this equation!!!
Gotta go....I just met condition #37...:) |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Tyee,
Based on your records how does this year's flow rate compare to '02? |
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| Schmitty, I have not completed this years 100% yet but the flow (velocity) is going to be pretty high, probably comparable to '96 and a lot higher than '02. The data I look at has just recently ended and I won't have it incorporated in to my spread sheets for another month or 2. The temps are the ones I am concerned about as they changed drastically at key times in the marshes, the flow and heights have been awesome this year.
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