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Location: Berlin | Full Throttle has started an Illinois division. The first tournament is Spring Valley the weekend after the MWC (April 5th). They are also having it on Sunday which will be nice for using Saturday for pre-fishing. I will be there with my son. The entry is $200 and the payout is very good. My partner and I were lucky enough to win a couple of these last year and got almost $2500 for first.
Their website is www.ftfishing.com
They run a great show and I highly recommend giving it a chance.
They have tournaments in Wisconsin, Illinois, N & S Dakota and on Mille Lacs as well as a championship. They have some really neat ideas like putting your on-stage picture on the plaque if you cash a check. They listen to the anglers and want to make this the best it can be. Let me know if you have any questions or email Full Throttle at:
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Location: Berlin | One more thing, If you want to email or PM me your address, I will get you on the mailing list and get a registration brochure mailed out to you. My email is:
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Location: Northern Illinois | I have to agree, very well run tourney. We will be fishing the Illinois series this year. Come check it out! Met a great group of guys in the Wisconsin and Minnesota series last year. |
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3-21-09 FLW League
3-22-09 IWT
3-??-09 carpenters
3-28 and 29-09 MWC
4-5-09 Full Throttle
4-25-09 IWT
4-26-09 IWT Championship
This is getting a little ridiculas.All these tournaments during the spawn and just after and all on the little Illinois River.No wonder all the fishing has gone downhill and will continue going down unless something changes.Why dont they take some of these elsewhere?The fish dont have a chance. |
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Location: Berlin | Actually Guest, if you talk to the DNR there they give these tournaments alot of the credit for making the fishery what it is today. They are able to gather lots of info using the fish that come to the scales. Being that time of year the mortality rate is extemely low and Full Throttle especially goes to great lengths to keep their fish alive.
I do completely understand your concern though. On Winnebago there are pretty much atleast one tournament every weekend. Through the years I have just learned to trust our DNR and the results speak for themselves. Our system is as good as it has ever been. |
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| Rich S - 1/19/2009 2:19 PM
Actually Guest, if you talk to the DNR there they give these tournaments alot of the credit for making the fishery what it is today. They are able to gather lots of info using the fish that come to the scales. Being that time of year the mortality rate is extemely low and Full Throttle especially goes to great lengths to keep their fish alive.
I do completely understand your concern though. On Winnebago there are pretty much atleast one tournament every weekend. Through the years I have just learned to trust our DNR and the results speak for themselves. Our system is as good as it has ever been.
I have talked to the DNR and we are trying to get a season or area limitation passed.And as far as the DNR making the fishery what it is today,well, it was better fishing here 20 years ago and the DNR didnt do anything to better it back then.And now they dont have any money so their not going to do anything now.
As far as the mortality rate,I wouldnt consider it low after seeing dead sauger floating the day after a tournament.Maybe your system is as good as its ever been,but ours isnt. |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself. |
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Location: Berlin | Like I said, I understand your point of view. I am guessing if you did see sugers floating the next day they were not part of the tournament since those fish would have floated about 3 pools down:) I do respect your efforts to do what you think is right for the fishery. |
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| Guest, your barking up the wrong tree here. Your concern is similar to that of many many people. Although once presented with all the facts and a bit of education they all come to the same conclusion. Tournaments DON'T have a negative biological effect on a body of water.
How many floaters did you actually see? How many fish did YOU and others catch to take home and fry up during the tourney? How many of these anglers would be fishing for table fare if not fishing in a tourney?...see there are many misconceptions out there about tourneys these are just a few. In most cases the people that complain about tourneys don't necessarily have all the facts and are very intelligent people, I hope you fit in this catagory rather than the anti-category of the people that are just jealous or have huge egos and misconceptions about trying to protect "THEIR" fishing locations. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Let me throw this into the pot. Yes after a decline in the sauger population on the IL for years, the river is bounceing back big time with a couple of great spawn years. This fall, the fishing has not been that good with 15-18"fish in years. Locals kill a ton more fish than tourneys there. Yes Rich is right. Without tourneys, at least on the IL., the dnr will be hard pressed to get fish to the hatchery. Also I cant belive the numbers of small walleye caught this year. That number is bigtime up. Yes there is still a problem with the flying fish but I think the high water the past 2 years is keeping them in check. |
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| stacker - 1/19/2009 2:44 PM
Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself.
Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle. |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Guest - 1/19/2009 3:20 PM
stacker - 1/19/2009 2:44 PM
Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself.
Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle.
Say guest, if they taste like crap, wouldn't you catagorize them with say carp? Would you even say, or do you say anything about the tournaments where they shoot carp and weigh in dead carp to the tune of tons. Oh, and by the way, it during the spawn when they shoot them. If you want to make yourself sound like a conservationist, defend the CARP>>>>
I put no words in your mouth my friend, just clarifying what you are saying. By saying you seen dead sauger implys there were many, you never stated a number.
It is guys like you that blow things up, not me.
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Guest, I am thinking no matter what anyone said, you would see or have a story explaining the bad side to darn near anything. Am I right? It is not all gloom and doom. Did all the sauger die that they released? I can bet that anyone from the public that fishes there when the bite is good, kills every fish they catch. They release nothing but the smaller ones to kill the bigger ones. I have nothing against that but you must. How many do you keep to have a "Fish fry" every year? The guys in a tourney kill 1 or 2 per guy, MAYBE, and your whining? remember, they leave money in your towns and take next to nothing back with them. Get over yourself.
Well Stacky,no,your not right.Dont try putting words in my mouth by saying it doesnt matter what anybody else says.That isnt what I said.And I never said all the sauger that they released died.I said I seen sauger floating.And as far as people from the public keeping, or killing every fish as you said,not too many keep sauger from the Illinois because they taste like crap and nobody wants them.Oh,and by the way I havent kept a sauger from the Illinois in years.So theres your answer to that!The point I was trying to get across was about how many tournaments are here during the spawn.They need to do something like they did on the Mississippi and maybe it would improve.Also I never said anything about tournament fisherman leaving money or taking anything back with them,so dont try and make it look like I was badmouthing tournament fisherman.You are just trying to blow the whole thing out of proportion.Think before rattle.
Say guest, if they taste like crap, wouldn't you catagorize them with say carp? Would you even say, or do you say anything about the tournaments where they shoot carp and weigh in dead carp to the tune of tons. Oh, and by the way, it during the spawn when they shoot them. If you want to make yourself sound like a conservationist, defend the CARP>>>>
I put no words in your mouth my friend, just clarifying what you are saying. By saying you seen dead sauger implys there were many, you never stated a number.
It is guys like you that blow things up, not me.
There you go again.Twist everything around.First we were talking about sauger and you changed it to carp.What will it be next,Dolphins?And no I wouldnt catagorize sauger with carp.I hope they kill all the carp in the Illinois before somebody gets killed by one.So shoot all you can during the spawn.And yes,you were trying to put words in my mouth.Im done arguing with you because you make no sense. |
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| Stacker, How did the carp fishermen get brought into this they have rights too. The guy has a valid point of view that many people have about tourneys and you slam him for it instead of enlightening him about the sport.. There are many fish that taste like crap your analogy is way off base. Try education instead your post came off more arrogant than helpfull!
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Sorry tyee, I am so sorry. man, o man, he say protect a specie during the spawn, but not ALL of them? Carp are not a fish? Educate him? he has allready said that he knows it all and now you are a moderator? I really dont need you to tell me what to do.
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| This guy sounds like a super troller.
I live in SV, am a member of the SV walleye club...fish the river enough, used to fish it a ton. I have never heard of any locals saying they want to limit tournaments coming to town. Haven't heard much about locals wanting a season, its been mentioned before without much actual discussion with the IDNR that I know of.
Locals don't keep a ton of sauger and walleye from the Illinois, a few do and I am sure it hurts a fishery to remove the big ones. But, they really do taste awful, and just sort of snicker when I hear people tell me how good they taste. Those people have never tasted a real walleye IMHO.
The ramp supports the number of tournaments easily, the public is never denied access to the ramp during tournaments....most businesses are happy to see fishermen. So, guest...without a name behind the post, it is really just a chance for you to bash and e-flame. If you are really working that hard at protecting the fishery, I would think you would just post your name....like I will.
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| The way I am reading this is Guest's point is there are 7 tournaments during spawn on the river. Why not spread them out over the spring and summer instead of having that many in a one month period? Like anything else tournaments have to be concerned about image and if the public perception is an image of tournaments abusing the river in a one month period, that will have a resounding knock right at the DNR's door.
It doesn't matter what the number of dead fish that are seen floating by the public, any number will always raise a voice of concern whether it is justified or not. I think Guest does bring up a valid point.
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| Hey tyee why dont you and your guest friend start your own thread instead of high jacking a legit posting by rich? Why is that every time there is a tourny posting in the forum and a few guest pop on here and have negative things to say toward tourny and your right there defending what there saying? |
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| well... this is getting interesting... all i would like to remind everyone is without the spring tournaments (clubs) mwc ect... there would be hardly a sauger fishery at all.. what makes the location attractive is the fact of OPEN Water early in the year. and if the water clairity is ok a great time to be had by all... its a spring destination for tournament anglers made from something that hardly supported fish at all... let the boys have there tournaments.. as far as the spawn? when the mwc comes to town what do you think happend all these years to those fish... each one got some help spawning and created a far greater servival and fish count than would have happend naturaly... this is a good thing! its also a good thing that those who live close have a place to enjoy themselves .. maybe IN TIME... the water can clean itself up enough to produce something a bit more edible .. it will take time but someday for our kids or grandkids one by one the dumping and drainage will be cut back... NOT OVERNIGHT but its gonna happen... with the crappy spring weather i dont for the life of me know what peoples complaints would be if a bunch of folks show up and have a fishing derby? just dont understand.... gonna upset the rowing team? pleasure boaters? the folks on shore when its 45 and raining outside ? just let it be.... there is a good turn out for this body of water this time of year just go with it... there are other places to go a month later... and as the months pass you see the game head north.. or to the great lakes... big deal.. and Carp are fish... ask any kid who has one take hold of his snoopy pole... piece and love... Brad |
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| yes and before folks from out of the aria get in a tizzy because its a spawning ground they need to take a drive and see what goes on with a tournament catch when the local clubs tournament organizers and dnr get togather to grab these fish ready for the spawn and give them some modern day help... do you have any idia how many saugers are hatched that wouldnt have made it with these efforts that have been going on for many many many years? |
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| Right on Bradley! The DNR works hand in hand with the MWC at the weigh-ins. They use the eggs for stocking the Illinois and other fisheries in Illinois. For those of you that have not fished there before the DNR takes and strips the eggs of all the females as they are brought in. In my conversations with the DNR at the weigh-ins, they are delighted we are there. Now, I can completely understand Guests thoughts but once you have seen this in person and talked to the DNR it is obvious this is a good thing.
I can also say that I have never nor do I know anyone that has had a fish die dring that tournament. I am sure a few are lost but with water temps around 40 and the usually calm water it is harder for them to die then stay alive.
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| saugers2 - 1/19/2009 4:39 PM
This guy sounds like a super troller.
I live in SV, am a member of the SV walleye club...fish the river enough, used to fish it a ton. I have never heard of any locals saying they want to limit tournaments coming to town. Haven't heard much about locals wanting a season, its been mentioned before without much actual discussion with the IDNR that I know of.
Locals don't keep a ton of sauger and walleye from the Illinois, a few do and I am sure it hurts a fishery to remove the big ones. But, they really do taste awful, and just sort of snicker when I hear people tell me how good they taste. Those people have never tasted a real walleye IMHO.
The ramp supports the number of tournaments easily, the public is never denied access to the ramp during tournaments....most businesses are happy to see fishermen. So, guest...without a name behind the post, it is really just a chance for you to bash and e-flame. If you are really working that hard at protecting the fishery, I would think you would just post your name....like I will.
Mike Richetta
Thanks for your input Mike! Any chance you could let the club members know about this tournament?? I can get you some brochures if you would like to hand out. Let me know |
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| If the DNR is the reason for the sauger population,then why were there more sauger before they got involved? |
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| Guest - 1/19/2009 6:29 PM
If the DNR is the reason for the sauger population,then why were there more sauger before they got involved?
Not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to figure out your way of thinking. Are you saying the DNR is actually hurting the sauger population?? How can stocking saugers hurt the population?? Out of a couple thousand fish caught during the MWC they lose about 50 but the DNR plant MILLIONS and that is a bad thing?? I know I am from Wisconsin but I cannot follow that logic. What am I missing?? |
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| The whole point of all of this is there are too many tournaments here at one time and the point is going to get pushed very hard this spring.Something needs to be done.Either a season or restricted area during spawn.Why do some states have seasons?I would think it is for the spawn.We will see what the DNR decides to do for next year.Hopefully they will do somthing like the mentioned above.
Im done with this thread for good now.Maybe we could start one next year and see if anything changes.I bet it will. |
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| Just some info from Wisconsin DNR biologist Patrick Schmalz
"Somewhat more limited research shows a higher percentage of walleye die following tournaments that require anglers to bring in fish at day’s end for a weigh-in at a central location. In the four studies I reviewed, total mortality of tournament-caught walleyes ranged from 0 to 80 percent, most fish expired before weigh-in, and both higher water temperatures and bad weather resulting in rough water conditions led to higher mortality rates."
From what I understand the mortality rate for walleye after a tournament is quite high. |
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| I will keep this short, this has been beat up before numerous times. I will speak from experience here in wisconsin 90 % of the bigger tournaments are on the Winnebago system and Green Bay. The fisheries are in great shape after all of the tournaments and the so called dead fish after tournaments, these fisheries probably have never been healthier for numerous reasons. Besides please do not high jack a thread that is meant to support FThrottle Tournaments to debate this.
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Location: Rhinelander | From zero to 80 percent is a darned wide margin.-
The biological impact of competitive angling is insignificant.
The positives outweigh the negatives from a management point of view.
The negatives from a sociological point of view are primarily water use issues and resistance from those who live on the water or are regular visitors/anglers there. The positives are development of new tackle, boats, motors technologies, and gear through extreme use and innovation driven by the use in competition, considerable regional positive economic impact, and the anglers have a good time. Mostlty.
Of course, there's lots more to it, but this sort of says it simply. |
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| Tournaments are a great way to promote the sport. With that being said my curiosity is peaked on the question of is there a potential for a negative impact on fish populations if you have too many tournaments during the spawning season on a given body of inland water? |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | The schedule this year is not the hesaviest use of the resource in my memory.
In 2003 I believe you had all but the Full Throttle and the FLW. Instead, you had the WAT and the GNWC, both of which drew more boats than the FLW and the FT, if my memory serves me right.
And, it is my definite opinion that with the Illinois DNR harvesting females with eggs at some of these tournaments, the fishery benefits from the tournaments at this time frame. I've been on stage when my fish were "culled" by the DNR for the egg laden females that went into a big transport tank for "processing" to retrieve the eggs. The DNR folks were ecstatic to get the fish. So, I doubt they will want to restrict the tournaments.
The local businesses (in the whole Utica to Henry area) love the tournaments. There are welcome signs everywhere. The money that is pumped into that economy is greatly appreciated and marketed to the anglers that they are welcome, very welcome!
It is a great example of a resouce being managed to get the best possible result.
Almost everyone is aware of the intensity of the "use", and very few object. And, the great thing is that, as I understand the facts, the resource is healthier than ever in a long term view.
I'd gladly listen to a presentation of facts that the resource cannot sustain this level of use. But, I have never seen or heard anything more substantial than the unsupported claims that the resource cannot sustain this level of use. Thinking it so, does not make it so.
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| Thanks Steve, there are too many people out there that just do not understand that tourneys do not have a significant impact on the fishery, even more that percieve an opinion as an attack. All we can do is hope that civil discussion and education will show the light to those that continue to bash these events.
Many states including WI have established seasons to protect spawning fish, such as Musky and Bass both are protected until after the spawn and have a huge following. Will they do it for others like Walleye/Carp? Is there data to show that the current model is detrimental? Has the sport of competative Walleye fishing grown to the point that some feel they need the protection? Who knows, maybe/maybe not, but jumping on ones back for stating their opinion is wrong, (no matter how their post is percieved) so for that Denny I appologize. I don't know the Illinois river but I can tell you that the number of events pale in comparison to that of the Wolf here in WI. Sounds like a great event and if the DNR supports it and utilizes them for a sound biological purpose all the more power to them.
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | That quoted "study" has been totally discredited. There were no real scientific principles applied. No one canb repeat the study. No one with any real scientific background will sign on to the protocols as being real science. As such, the study referred to in 125 posts, is meaningless. |
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| After an hour research I found what 125 was referring to. A publication from the DNR June 2006 that looked at both bass and walleye mortality rates after tournaments. Keep in mind I am not saying tournaments have any affect on population in my eyes but...here is a DNR biologist (and the main one that deals with tournament regs. non-the-less) in a DNR publication stating this. With how vigorously many kept saying they trust the educated biologists on the other subject matters on this site....may I ask what is different here?
The bass tournaments are being hammered all over the country with the mortality rate of bass after a tournament and Schmalz's article does not leave them unscathed either. Is it totally justified? Probably not. But again it points out the image problem tournaments need to address.
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | RNT.... If you do not want to take my word for it. Take a reprint of that "study" to any local high school, JR College or whatever, biology teacher. Have them critique the protocols and the entire study. I had it reviewed by a Professor at the University of Minnesota and he was kind, when he said interesting analysis of some events... anecdotal facts and non-scientific conclusions... thats as close as I can recall his trying to be kind.
There are olod threads here that extensively discuss that "report".
BTW, he may be the "main guy".... but if pressed he will (and has) admit that the "study" was not "conclusive".
The internet is full of BS and that "study" is just a part of that same genre of BS.
In the body of that "study" they admit to having bad results from several of their "experiments" (or whatever you want to call them). They had such a problem that in the body of the report they clearly state that they discarded data from some events and could only "guess" some data... It was really laughable.
For some good perspective on the issues you are interested in find the WI DNR reports on the walleye populations in Winnebago. There they list the acceptable range of population numbers. They discuss angler "exploitation". Once you get your head around that information, then analyze the losses of walleyes projected from tournaments and delayed mortality, etc. You will realize that weather and water conditions have a far more significant impact on the resource than tournaments could ever have. Even if half of all fish caught in all tournaments on Winnebago were to die it would not adversely affect the populations except in absolute minimal available population years. And, with analysis of the data, then you realize that there wouldn't be very many fish caught in a population year like that so again the tournaments would/could not have a negative impact of any consequence.
This has been beat to death and politicized to the point that it has become the "big lie" being said enough times that it just has to be true. You arev way too smart to fall for it if you dig a little and look at the stuff you read with a critical eye.
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| hgmeyer, I didn't say I believed it, was just wondering about some taking the DNR biologists word as gospel on other occasions but not this one. I personally think the anti-tournament frame of mind is getting very old. I deal a lot with the bass clubs and they get hammered relentlessly for no reason. Tournaments have become the heart of the industry and do a lot of good for the overall well-being of the resource. For some reason the farther south you go the less resistance to tournaments there is though. |
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Location: Berlin | My suggestion is for all of you that have not fished there is to come on down and see what it is all about:) The closest comparison I can give is Depere in spring only they are sauger instead of walleyes.
IF I had to chose one tournament location to fish I would take Spring Valley in spring over Winnebago in June. Now if I could just figure out how to win down there:( |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Ahh yes, spring valley. Thats gonna be a nice event. I gonna have to see if there is an age limitation for the boy. It would be a fun event. |
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| Rich S - 1/19/2009 5:27 PM
Thanks for your input Mike! Any chance you could let the club members know about this tournament?? I can get you some brochures if you would like to hand out. Let me know
Rich, while I am a member and live in Spring Valley, I am not the person to talk to about promoting an event. You could do a search on the Spring Valley Walleye Club and get in touch with the Executive Director for further promotion.
In fact, you probably already talked to him as the SVWC is currently in charge of the ramp scheduling.
I will support the event in some way, either talking about it with friends or maybe fishing it. But, I will definately be down at the ramp either way to see the results. |
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| Guest, you have obviously never fished the Wolf and Fox Rivers here in WI during the spring. Thousands more anglers here before, during, and after the walleye spawn, than are on the IL River for those tournaments. And these anglers are keeping nearly everything they catch, not C&R like in the tourneys! And that fishery is as healthy as can be. No closed season, no size limit.
I suggest you come up with some factual evidence that the tourneys are hurting the fishery, before you accuse them of it. Give us one fact, just to start with. |
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| Shep - 1/20/2009 8:22 AM
Guest, you have obviously never fished the Wolf and Fox Rivers here in WI during the spring. Thousands more anglers here before, during, and after the walleye spawn, than are on the IL River for those tournaments. And these anglers are keeping nearly everything they catch, not C&R like in the tourneys! And that fishery is as healthy as can be. No closed season, no size limit.
I suggest you come up with some factual evidence that the tourneys are hurting the fishery, before you accuse them of it. Give us one fact, just to start with.
He fails to mention the other worries the locals are having.
1. Asian Carp - They spawn like mad, and outgrow "bait" size in a hurry. Very small window for the fry to be eaten by sauger, white bass...etc. The are most definately competing for bio mass in the river with game fish.
2. Constant water fluctuation - In the past 2 years we have had more than 4 - 100 year flood events, and 1 - 500 year flood events. In a technical term 100 year flood event does not mean 1 every 100 years, it mean that there is a 1 in 100 chance that the flood will reach that level. Our system relies on some flooding, and when we get the right one at the right time....our sauger blow up in a few years, we are seeing that now from the flood that hampered the MWC a few years ago. Prior to that, we had a severe drought for 2 years. Sure, we got some floods, but they were in the summer and fall. Without spring flooding the spawns are IMHO pretty useless as the fry have no chance to avoid the white bass and others.
Our river depends on so many things to be "just right". The month after the bad MWC flood (as we locals call it) I watched the DNR release the fry that were hatched from egg harvest of the MWC event and a IWT special tourny held just for egg harvest. He could have carried the fry in a ziplock that day.
The river, I feel, needs the supplimental stocking. Some argue this point. It's all opinion, right? |
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Location: Berlin | Mark,
As far as I know they do not have an age limit within reason. They HEAVILY promote family in this circuit. My son is only 10 and they have no problme with him fishing it.
Mike,
I will get in touch with the executive director. I would appreciate any word of mouth traffic you can give this event.
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| wow .. our guest is worked up about this... wondering why the tournaments are the issue? but he is on a misson ... its funny how some are so quick to try to find a reason and easy it is to settle on(tournament anglers clubs and the dnr) working togather after years and years and years of possitive results and LOGIC and SCIENCE and Measurable RESULTS and possitive impact...) then come to the conclusion not to investigate more but ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK! sad i guess.. im open minded ya overfishing a body of water can happen.. but when the fish are plentyful people will come! tournament or not if there are good catches to be had folks will come and catch them.. i can be flexible ,,, closing the last half mile to the damm or wherever the majority of fish are stacking up because they are held up by a man made obstruction i can live with... being so quick to take away anglers opportunities to enjoy the day when every other lake and pond is still frozen over... so mr. guest who has his heart in the right place.. thanks for pointing out that we live in a democrocy now! thanks to the minority that can get our constitution changed to a democracy... from the Great peoples republic it was founded on... thanks for going threw all your trouble to push the political bottons to save the helpless sauger from the evil fisherman who find them so easy pickins in water clairity of a half inch... and 40 degree rain... and flying carp! |
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Location: Berlin | Ok all, I have recieved lots of emails wanting info and I will be sending them out tomorrow. Is there anyone else that wants a brochure and registration info mailed to them? I can get you info on any division you would like, just include that in your email. My address is:
[email protected]
Thanks again for your interest. Details of the Spring Valley tournament will be out in a week or so.
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Location: Berlin | Mark Komo - 1/20/2009 8:19 AM
Ahh yes, spring valley. Thats gonna be a nice event. I gonna have to see if there is an age limitation for the boy. It would be a fun event.
Mark,
I just got an email from Chris and he told me to tell you there is no age limit as long as they have parental permission.
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Wow, thats great. may have to double up on the RC and cheetos to keep him happy. We are gonna have to take a serious look at this. |
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| Just posting to have all four of the top forums with me as the last poster. |
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Location: Berlin | Shep - 1/29/2009 9:45 AM
Just posting to have all four of the top forums with me as the last poser.
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