Aim cheat sheet
stacker
Posted 7/1/2010 12:25 PM (#92512)
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Anybody got a link to the weight/length conversion chart that the anglers play by? I had one, lost it, cannot find where it is listed.

Thanks
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schmidtwi
Posted 7/1/2010 2:23 PM (#92515 - in reply to #92512)
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I thought they used the WI DNR conversion:

walleye weight = (length x length x length) / 2,700

A 16" walleye - 16x16x16/2700 = 1.5 lbs.

http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/faq/trophy.htm
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schmidtwi
Posted 7/1/2010 2:30 PM (#92516 - in reply to #92512)
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Here's a link to the chart - http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/faq/trophy.pdf
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budsbud66
Posted 7/1/2010 2:50 PM (#92517 - in reply to #92516)
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If only all my 30's weighted 10.5lbs!
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stacker
Posted 7/1/2010 2:57 PM (#92518 - in reply to #92517)
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I dont think they use the wisconsin chart. They do have weights like 1.67#s on aims chart.
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schmidtwi
Posted 7/1/2010 3:05 PM (#92519 - in reply to #92518)
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They likely developed their own detailed chart using 1/4 or 1/8 measurements, which would result in weights like 1.67 lbs. The WI chart is rounded only to .1 lbs.

Here's the WF article I found saying AIM uses the WI DNR formula - http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/article.asp?aid=2371
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schmidtwi
Posted 7/1/2010 3:17 PM (#92520 - in reply to #92519)
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I just put this together using the WI DNR formula.



Attachments
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Attachments Walleye length to weight conversion.xlsx (10KB - 225 downloads)
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stacker
Posted 7/1/2010 3:23 PM (#92521 - in reply to #92520)
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I am guessing since buds bud did not post a link to the actuall aim conversion chart, that it is not on the net.

Thanks schmidtty but was not looking for maybe's, wanted actuals. You know.

Thanks

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GNWC Rookie
Posted 7/1/2010 4:02 PM (#92522 - in reply to #92521)
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We use that formula for our photo weigh ins and it's pretty slick. Not sure if it's exactly what AIM uses though.
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schmidtwi
Posted 7/1/2010 7:01 PM (#92524 - in reply to #92522)
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Sorry Stacker, I tried. You're right, they don't use the WI DNR formula. It's MN & SD. But in my estimation, the WI formula is closer to reality. The MN & SD formula is closer to prespawn weight....
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Doubtful
Posted 7/2/2010 10:27 AM (#92537 - in reply to #92512)
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Sorry guys but that 32 inch fish that Perry Good caught did not weight 13.9 #'s I personally feel it sends a false image of what Green Bay has to offer. I like the concept but just not how the weights are calculated! At least everyone competes under the same guidlines so I guess it doesn't matter.
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joey
Posted 7/2/2010 10:34 AM (#92538 - in reply to #92537)
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No formula will be perfect for every fish. You're correct though, the conversion is the same for everyone and you are basically fishing for inches, so the playing field is even.
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stacker
Posted 7/2/2010 10:51 AM (#92539 - in reply to #92537)
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Doubtful - 7/2/2010 10:27 AM

Sorry guys but that 32 inch fish that Perry Good caught did not weight 13.9 #'s I personally feel it sends a false image of what Green Bay has to offer. I like the concept but just not how the weights are calculated! At least everyone competes under the same guidlines so I guess it doesn't matter.


Dear Doubtful,

How much do you think Mr. Goods fish would have actually weighed?
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GUEST
Posted 7/2/2010 11:28 AM (#92540 - in reply to #92512)
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My guest on Goods fish would be about 12.4 lbs
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sworrall
Posted 7/2/2010 11:31 AM (#92541 - in reply to #92512)
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Location: Rhinelander
That's why a formula is used, so the fish can be immediately released and no one 'guesses'. Some waters the fish would be heavy, some right on, some maybe a bit light depending on the time of year.
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doubtful
Posted 7/2/2010 1:06 PM (#92543 - in reply to #92512)
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Stacker......considering I have caught a few hundred fish between 28 and 32inches on Green Bay I'm going to say probably between 11 and 12.25#'s Some of them are skinny and some bulkier. Looks from the photo I would give it 11.5 definately a good fish. I think to say that fish is just shy of 14lbs is without a doubt inflating things. I think the measuring system is more accurate on the bottom of the scale but as the lengths increases things start getting inflated. But as far as the tournament goes Hey everyone is on the same playing field so it really doesn't matter its just that it creates a image of these guys pulling these MONSTER fish from Green bay and creating rumors. I'm not ripping Aim and i realize there is no perfect solution just bringing some discussion to the table......
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budsbud66
Posted 7/2/2010 1:37 PM (#92544 - in reply to #92543)
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goods fish prob didn't push much over 11lbs it was pretty skinny.

yes, 26 inch fish on green bay can weight 10lbs.. and 32 inch fish can weigh 10lbs.. i think the formula is a great idea..



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GNWC Rookie
Posted 7/2/2010 1:48 PM (#92545 - in reply to #92544)
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Who cares how much it actually weighed? Yes it would nice to be 100% accurate 100% of the time, but you will have to be willing to loose a lot of fish for it. I'd rather the tournament world deal with weights that are slightly off then see it get yet another black eye from a big fish kill.

Like said before, everybody's on a level playing field. Now you want to catch the longest fish you can instead of the heaviest fish. 95% of the time, it works out that way anyway so things didn't really change much. If they used a more conservative formula everyone would complain because their fat 27" only showed up as 6lbs when it actually weighed 9.

The system is good, you know where you stand when you're measuring that fish. AIM is moving us in the right direction. Anybody else remember the FLW event on Green Bay a few years ago? I'd much rather see this new system any day.

Edited by GNWC Rookie 7/2/2010 1:49 PM
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budsbud66
Posted 7/2/2010 3:07 PM (#92546 - in reply to #92545)
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I agree. I love watching all the feeds to. its a great way to compensate for bringing in the fish.
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620
Posted 7/2/2010 7:41 PM (#92548 - in reply to #92512)
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If I remember correctly..., lots of sun on this brain so no garauntees but, I think they use MI DNR conversion.
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Guest
Posted 7/2/2010 9:32 PM (#92551 - in reply to #92512)
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I'll start this off by stating that I am not trying to bash the system, but just point out some facts. I am not bashing, because I really don't have a better idea. However, the larger the fish gets the larger the discrepancy due to the fact that you are cubing the weight of the fish. They are dividing by around 2450 instead of 2700.
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Guest
Posted 7/2/2010 9:36 PM (#92552 - in reply to #92512)
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Sorry, I mean to say cubing the length, not the weight.
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ralph
Posted 7/3/2010 6:32 AM (#92554 - in reply to #92552)
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what difference does it make what weight they put to what inch? some of you guys just love to bitch about something. I have caught 29.5" fish on green bay that weighed 11.76# and 33" fish that weighed 9.12#. FISH vary. The guy asked for a chart they use, not whether you think it is right or not.

For the guy who has caught over 200 fish on the bay from 28-32" good start guy, protect the resource, dont tell meat hunters where you fish. I have caught thousands.
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Wisconsin Wade
Posted 7/3/2010 7:41 AM (#92557 - in reply to #92554)
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Hundreds! Thousands! Do I hear Tens of Thousands?
If I have told you once I have told you a MILLION times not to exaggerate!
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Shep
Posted 7/3/2010 1:34 PM (#92564 - in reply to #92557)
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I shake off under 40" fish. And I've caught thousands of them.

Hi IL Wade!
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IDIOT FINDER
Posted 7/3/2010 3:33 PM (#92569 - in reply to #92564)
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Shep - 7/3/2010 1:34 PM

I shake off under 40" fish. And I've caught thousands of them.

Hi IL Wade!
HOW CAN YOU CATCH FISH WHEN YOUR YAPPING ON THE ENTERNET?
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Albe
Posted 7/3/2010 8:29 PM (#92579 - in reply to #92569)
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Took a couple hours compiling this from all of the AIM tournaments held since they started.

 

         LENGTH         WEIGHT
         LENGTH          WEIGHT
11.00 0.466   22.00 4.224
11.75 0.575   22.25 4.378
12.00 0.615   22.50 4.537
12.25 0.656   22.75 4.699
12.50 0.700   23.00 4.865
12.75 0.745   23.25 5.035
13.00 0.793   23.50 5.209
13.25 0.842   23.75 5.388
13.50 0.894   24.00 5.570
13.75 0.948   24.25 5.757
14.00 1.003   24.50 5.948
14.25 1.062   24.75 6.143
14.50 1.122   25.00 6.342
14.75 1.185   25.25 6.546
15.00 1.250   25.50 6.754
15.25 1.317   25.75 6.967
15.50 1.387   26.00 7.185
15.75 1.459   26.25 7.407
16.00 1.534   26.50 7.633
16.25 1.612   26.75 7.865
16.50 1.692   27.00 8.101
16.75 1.775   27.25 8.342
17.00 1.860   27.50 8.588
17.25 1.949   27.75 8.838
17.50 2.040   28.00 9.094
17.75 2.134   28.25 9.355
18.00 2.231   28.50 9.621
18.25 2.331   28.75 9.892
18.50 2.434   29.00 10.168
18.75 2.541   29.25 10.449
19.00 2.650   29.50 10.736
19.25 2.762   29.75 11.208
19.50 2.878   30.00 11.325
19.75 2.997   30.25 11.628
20.00 3.119   30.75 12.250
20.25 3.245   31.00 12.570
20.50 3.374   32.00 13.905
20.75 3.507   34.00 16.862
21.00 3.643   35.00 18.490
21.25 3.783      
21.50 3.926      
21.75 4.073      

 

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BD
Posted 7/8/2010 12:38 PM (#92707 - in reply to #92512)
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Sorry about mentioning this on Walleye First, but Walleye Central has a calculator that uses length and girth to calculate weight. You can find the link on the left side of the WC home page. It calculates that my 32" X 19" eye from 1976 weighed 13.22 lbs, a half a pound off.

I estimated the girth for the original post. The actual weight was 13.75 lbs. Going back and experimenting I found that, according to the calculator, the actual girth would have been 19.75".

Edited by BD 7/8/2010 12:52 PM
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Rich S
Posted 7/8/2010 1:26 PM (#92709 - in reply to #92512)
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Those are definitely a little high compared to average fish on the Bago system but everyone is one a fair playing field so who cares. I am sure their are plenty of bodies of water where that would be a touch on the light side as well.
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sworrall
Posted 7/8/2010 1:55 PM (#92712 - in reply to #92512)
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Location: Rhinelander
BD,
The fish are not girthed for AIM measurement.
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BD
Posted 7/8/2010 3:12 PM (#92717 - in reply to #92712)
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I understand. I just wanted to let others know that there was another system of guestimation and where they could easily access the calculator.

By the way my 13 3/4 lb. eye was caught during the full moon at 11:00pm, by Stevens Reef on Bago. I trolled the reef and picked up several nice eyes and then anchored when I had the bigger ones located. I caught the really big one on a Five of Diamonds.
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bradley894
Posted 7/8/2010 3:59 PM (#92719 - in reply to #92512)
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<p>shep estimating length when the fish is 6 feet below the boat works for me too! yup another 40-45 incher! darn just cant get a 50! shake shake .... no dont bother with the net on this one.. shak shake!  </p><p>P.S.  wile driving alone in 8 feet of water i saw a Gobie that had to be 20 inchs fighting with what looked like was a fresh water lobster!  </p>

Edited by bradley894 7/8/2010 4:03 PM
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