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Location: Neenah Wi | I just came from Jacks international and saw Brad's lip-stix the colors are exactly like the originals.Check them out if you can't wait for the originals.$3.99each.When is rapala bringing back the originals? |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | The Daves Lures LLC company new Deep Nitro Shiner will be available sometime in January 2004. They will have 34 colors available. For more information, go to www.daveslures.com. |
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Location: Neenah Wi | Jerry what will the price be for the nitro minnow?Thanks Looks like dave will have alot of competition.We go from famine to feast after all the complaints about the new design from Normark.I hope Dave does well with his line. |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | I can promise you that the lures Dave puts out will not be a cheap reproduction as was seen this summer. These lures will be of the highest quality. They should run around $4.50. The advantage Dave has is the number of colors which will be available. The Rapala reproductions will be out sometime in 2004. I do not know the date. They will have only 11 colors available. Both lures should be great fish catchers. I plan to stay with the Storm line as I feel that Normark/Rapala did fisherman a great disservice when they closed down the Storm line back in 1999. I am sure the Rapala line will be a little less expensive, due to the size of their company and their ability to mass produce the lures at a greater rate. |
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| Should be interesting to try the new lures by Dave. I will say I'm disappointed in the quality of the cheap ripp lippers. Everyone that has hit the water, took on water, including the ones after exchanging the first half dozen.
As for price from Rapala on the "new" T-sticks.....there arrogance to end production on a good lure. Could be the same arrogance that tells me they will be more expensive than the competition. |
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| I recieved a flyer from Dave about the Nitro shinner.
Great colors but he will only be making the regular sized (4 1/2")
He will not have the JRs (3 1/2") out yet. |
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| Thats how you get the little winkie guy's. ") |
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Location: Combined Locks, WI | Schmitty, not sure what you mean by regular size and JR. I do know I am looking at a 1997 Storm catalog and it says the size of the Deep Jr Thunderstick is 4.5" and 1/3 oz. The shallow Jr thunderstick is 3.5" and 1/4 oz while the Deep Thunderstick is listed as 6" and 1/2 oz. It would appear that Dave's is making the Deep Jr Thunderstick size that everyone has been wishing for. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Crestliner,
That's what I thought also. Dave's is coming out with the jr's |
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| Buy the lures that catch fish for you. Buying one or the other because you disagree with what they did is not going to catch you more fish. If Storm would not have sold out, we would never have these discussions!!! Rapala had the money and Storm took it! |
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| Seems like these lures are much better at catching fisherman!!!!!!!!
How long before Dave Storm sells out again? Both rapala and and the new storm lures won't see my business. There are alot of lures out there that are just as good that have been around for along time and are cheaper too. |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Guest and frustrated,
Get your facts straight. Dave Storm NEVER sold out to Normark/Rapala. He wanted to keep the family business intact but his uncles and other relatives overruled him on the decision. Next time before you spout off, do some research.
Edited by jerry 11/20/2003 10:32 PM
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Frustrated and guest
One more thing. In the future, if you want to post and plan to give an alternate opinion on something, at least have the balls to get a username instead of hiding behind names like frustrated and guest.
Edited by jerry 11/20/2003 10:33 PM
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| Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. If this is how you want to treat your guests visiting this web site and giving an opinion, then this will be my last post. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Companies like Storm are fairly common arrivals and departires in this business. The lure business is a tough one, and the industry has been on it's butt for several years. I can come up with about a dozen that have changed hands in the last decade or so.
Mega retailers like Wal Mart have driven the retail price on hard bodied and soft bodied baits down, and sales have not been stellar. I owned a lure company, and can tell you that not much fun comes out of a business like that in this kind of an economy. I sold that cmpany to another, not because I wanted to retire, but because it was a tremendous amount of work for a not so tremendous amount of profit.
I'm not sure where the American consumer gets the idea a company 'owes' them something in the marketplace. The only thing a company HAS to do is provide a good product at a reasonable price, and stand behind it. Companies come, and companies go, mostly because of profits or lack thereof. Everyone wants top quality, but then demands a lower price; hard to reconcile sometimes.
What matters to us as fishermen is the quality of the lures the 'new' owner turns out. Pretty simple, really; if the lures don't meet expectations, the will not sell, and another competitor will arrive and fill that niche.
Take it easy on each other guys, life is too short for fishermen to be railing on our peers over who owns what or why. I REALLY liked my Mitchell Spidercast reels and the Spiderwire line I used to get from my friends at Johnson Worldwide too, but things will, do, and sometimes must change.
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Location: Neenah, WI | I see your side of the argument Steve and agree with you for the most part.
When Rapala bought Storm and cheapened the baits I yelled as loud as the rest. I still use Rapala baits but I've also found others that work real well too. I grudgingly replace Shad Raps that I lose because they work. It just goes against my grain to give money to Rapala after screwing with the Thundersticks.
I hope the new DJ's work out. I'm still trying to replace a lot that were stolen this year but I'll be darned if I'll pay E-Bay prices. The DJ remains one of my all time favorites and I'm looking forward to Dave coming out with some high quality stuff.
Good luck to all the hunters. BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!! |
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Absolutely true. This new "Daves Lures" product has a long hard journey on the road to successful profits. The lures do look good, but they need to pass 3 major tests.
1. Be marketable.
2. Be affordable.
3. Catch fish.
They will not survive any other way. And the support I have read on the message boards mostly comes from animosity towards the other company, which means nothing.
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