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| The city of Oshkosh will be having a meeting about making the entire river in Oshkosh. This would make a trip through Oshkosh from the mouth at lake Winnebago to the 41 bridge take close to an hour and 20 minutes.
The meeting will be held on September 10th at 6:00 PM 4th floor city hall.
They snowballed one through last year without anyone knowing about it.
If you are a fishermen a boater or just sick of the cities mindless antics you better be there or they will just pass it again.
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Schmitty - 9/4/2012 3:00 PM
The city of Oshkosh will be having a meeting about making the entire river in Oshkosh. This would make a trip through Oshkosh from the mouth at lake Winnebago to the 41 bridge take close to an hour and 20 minutes.
The meeting will be held on September 10th at 6:00 PM 4th floor city hall.
They snowballed one through last year without anyone knowing about it.
If you are a fishermen a boater or just sick of the cities mindless antics you better be there or they will just pass it again.
Schmitty
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| Tell every one you know.
The area between Spellmans and the west end of Rain bo park use to be no wake on weekends and Holidays only.
Now it is no wake all the time thjis ads 20 minutes to a trip between lakes. Each way.
They sliped this through last year with only 1 boater showing up to the meeting to oppose it, mainly because know one new about it. He found out the day of the meeting.
There may be a Petitition to revoke this change for all the boaters and fishermen to sign at the meeting.
There really is no good reason for it. the river belongs to all of us. The Holiday's and weekends rule was in place for over 15 years and worked fine for the busy times. But it is not needed durring the week when boat traffic is light. |
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| Thanks for posting I'm copying this to everyone i know in the fox valley whom uses the water, boaters and fisherman. Is there a bass fishing website that this could be copied on as Im sure the bassheads would be very interested in weighing in on this given the fact they go back and forth between the upper lakes and bago alot. WE DO NOT NEED THIS AND IT IS NOT NECCESSARY!! |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | There are only two legit reasons to suggest this, safety and/or shoreline erosion. If you go to the meeting be prepared to address both concerns.
Questions I would ask:
Why?
Have there been an abnormal amount of accidents!
What proof is there of shoreline erosion?
Who is behind this, and why? Businesses in the river? Property owners? Know your enemy. |
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| The guy that submitted the pettion lives 5 blocks from the river. And a lot of the signitures on it are from all over the State.
on the same day. Looks verry fishy. Not sure if you can get in trouble for forging a fake name on a pettion.
Shoreline errosion is sited as the cause of the pettion. But the hole river is rip rap so thats not even a factor.
The busnisess i talked to along the river are not for this and will be sending representaion. There is only a few people I have talked to that are for this and they live in the area of Rain Bo park. For a city that calls itself Oshkosh on the water they sure are trying to make it hard to enjoy it.
And thankyou Sunshine we have contacted the Bass club. |
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| It's four miles from the mouth to the west side of 41 bridge. Three miles from the mouth to the current end of the no wake by Rainbow. (Do they want it no wake all the way to 41 bridge?)
Places like Winneconne will suffer also...even pleasure boaters don't want to idle for an hour in the hot summer sun.
Although it would make bridge tenders and the six people on the river complaining happy. |
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| Is Schmitty or someone else organizing a counter petition to the new no wake zones added this year as well as a petition again the petition to have the entire river no wake? I am not sure if I can make the meeting on the 10th. However, I would be willing and able to get signatures of other guys that live near me. I live in West Bend. I am also a board member for the Bago Walleye Club. We could email all our members and let them know about the petition and the meeting. We are also having a club member fish fry this Saturday at the Boat Doc in Lomira. We could also collect signatures from guys that come to the fish fry.
If anyone is organizing something for this please contact me ASAP so that I can assist in any way I can.
Thanks,
Justin
Cell 414-899-3492
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| Schmitty,
Where did you get the info for the date and time of the meeting. I have looked all over the City of Oshkosh Website and I cannot find any information.
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Location: Menasha, WI | The meeting is the monthly meeting of the Parks Advisory Board. If you can't make the meeting you may want to contact the Board members listed here: http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Government/Board_Commission/Parks_Board/ The petition to implement the no-wake is here: http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/WebLink8/DocView.aspx?id=684935&dbid=0
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| Viking,
Did you or anyone else on hear pick up or know who picked up petitions against the no wake proposal from the Oshkosh City Clerk. I just spoke with the Oshkosh Parks department and the Oshkosh City Clerk. You have to physically pick up the petitions from the clerks office. She said that someone was just in to pick some petition up. If you know who that is please contact me so that we can work together to coordinate a counter petition.
Thanks,
Justin
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Location: Menasha, WI | Sorry, I have no idea. Hopefully, the person will publicize their efforts so we can stop this before it goes too far.
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| Sorry I was out all day today.
There will be A Petition at spellmens Marina.
And There may be anouther one I will no more in morning,
Will let you know more as soon as I can.
And yes the meeting is with the parks department,
They are the ones to decide weather a no wake petition has any meriit
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| Lets make sure everyone is on the same page with what needs to be done to prevent this. Stop at Spellmans and sign the petitions? Are they available now? Have to move fast if the meeting is Monday night.
Schmitty is correct, where did they get these signatures from all over the state? Fishy. |
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| I printed off a copy of their petition. It says right at the top of the petition that only city of oshkosh residents can sign the petition. I counted all the signatures. They have 116 signatures and only 60 of them are from city of oshkosh residents. I wonder if that makes their petition invalid. I think on our officail petition it should only be city of Oshkosh residents. We could form another non-official petition from non-residents so that we don't void our officail one.
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| Thats a good Idea. I donot live within the city limmits.  |
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Location: Menasha, WI | I am not an Oshkosh resident either. For us non-residents, the most effective approach might be to write to the Board members and emphasize the tourist dollars spent in the city/area. I would think that the implementation of the river long no-wake zone would discourage quite a few people from visiting the area and spending their money. For example, I like to fish the Butte Des Mortes points during the run back to the lake, I launch at Rainbow and head up. With a no-wake zone all the way to the bridge would take too long and I would simply find somewhere else to launch and fish.
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| Is there even one signature from a person who lives on the river and is affected?
What a joke. |
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| The petition itself is not invalid due to the out-of-city signatures, just the invalid signatures themselves. You can cast a BIG shadow of doubt during the meeting upon the remaining signatures just from the source of the invalid ones...and showing up in force for the meeting to voice displeasure with the measure will impact the decision makers more than a few with another petition. The city is not responsible for validating the signatures but the public (and that includes those who are not residents) can contest it. There is normally an ordinance as to the amount of legal signatures that are needed to advance the petition. |
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| Viking is there a phone number we could call to voice a opinion ??? |
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Location: Menasha, WI | Park Advisory Board: http://www.ci.oshkosh.wi.us/Government/Board_Commission/Parks_Board/ - Victor Girens
235-8607
- William Gogolewski
Board Chair
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- James Michelson
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- Bill Miller
426-9192
- Mark Philipp
(920) 716-6909
- Bob Poeschl
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- Allan Siman
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- Jonathan Wilson
573-9729
- Terry Wohler
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Location: Oshkosh, WI | I imagine that the parks group has been a promoter of the riverwalk development. It would be helpful to let them know that such a big no wake zone would reduce the commerce that comes from recreational boaters on the river. That is one of the big reasons we are spending millions on the riverwalk. By the way, I keep my boat at Kubasta's, which is a wake zone - and I am able to safely launch my boat (even though it can be a hassle when the caddy shack boats go by). Gene Kubasta has always opposed expanding the no wake. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | A big salute to all those who spoke up on this. You rock. |
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| So did they scrap the idea??? I don't fish or boat that stretch of the system.... But I hope you all were successful! |
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Location: Menasha, WI | Yep, it's dead for now. Parks Board votes against Fox River no wake petition, sides with businesses and boaters alikeA boater’s drive to create a no-wake zone on the Fox River from Lake Winnebago to the Butte des Morts bridge appears dead in the water with an advisory board and the city manager both against the proposal. About 119 people signed Oshkosh resident Daniel Henning’s petition that asks Oshkosh Parks Director Ray Maurer to designate the entire length of the Fox River from Lake Winnebago to the Butte des Morts bridge a no-wake zone. On Monday, the Oshkosh Advisory Parks Board unanimously voted to reject Henning’s request, saying it would hurt boating-related businesses and increase travel times between Winnebago and Butte des Morts. Henning was the only person at the meeting who spoke in favor of the no-wake expansion. “You’re taking your life into your own hands if you try to go out in the afternoon. We’ve had several close calls,” Henning said. “Something needs to get done, that’s all I know. It would still be ‘Oshkosh on the Water.’ It’s just going to be Oshkosh on the Water, Safely.” The petition cites “terrible” shoreline erosion and the damage done to little boats as they make their way along the river. At present, there are already no wake areas from the mouth of Winnebago west to the Oregon Street bridge and another no-wake zone from west of the Wisconsin Street bridge almost to the Butte des Morts bridge. Oshkosh City Manager Mark Rohloff has recommended the city take no action on the petition and leave the existing no-wake zones in place. “We don’t support it. We’re recommending the Parks Board take no action it,” Rohloff said. “We don’t think it’s necessary.” Parks Board members agreed with him on Monday, saying it would hurt marinas, restaurants, hotels, bait shops and other businesses that cater to boaters. Board member Terry Wohler also noted it would significantly increase the amount of time it takes boaters to get from Lake Winnebago to Lake Butte des Morts. “This is going to kill everything in Oshkosh. You can’t have a no-wake zone on the whole thing,” Wohler said. “It would take you all day to get from one way to the other.” -more- http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20120912/OSH0101/309110281/Petition-no-wake-along-Fox-River-makes-waves?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|OSH-News&nclick_check=1
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| Now we should get a proposal going to change the existing back to weekends/holidays which should have never been changed. |
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| Good work!!!!!! I know they tried to secretly close some public landings on the Chain in Waupaca about 10yrs ago.... We showed up in force and in the end. The county ended up widening the landing and improving a couple others. The biggest thing is nipping it in the bud 1st thing! |
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No wake zone for the entire River in Oshkosh.