N.P.A.A.
Rick Larson
Posted 12/6/2003 8:14 PM (#10127)
Subject: N.P.A.A.



Recently received a letter from the N.P.A.A requesting I rejoin. Really have no desire to do so, but am wondering if anyone has input as to why I should.

So I ask: why should I rejoin?

Edited by Rick Larson 12/6/2003 8:15 PM
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Johnnie Candle
Posted 12/7/2003 12:49 AM (#10130 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Member

Posts: 120

Location: Devils Lake, ND
Rick,

I would love to see you re-join us at the NPAA. Our annual meeting was a huge success. Several excellent speakers and those that attended walked a way with many times their money in information. I am sure that if the info provided is applied properly, one or two new sponsorships would come to you.

As far as the growth of the organization, that is in progress. I am the chairman of the membership committee and we are working to enhance the membership the best we can. Some of the things that our committee is investigating are:

Defining the professional angler
Putting together member only things like:
Photo shoots
Tournaments
Youth days

The list goes on and on. Here lies the problem; as with every organization, 10% do the work while 90% wonder why nothing is happening. We have five members on the membership committee. In the course of my e-mail discussions of the above topics, I have gotten feed-back from two. It takes a lot longer when this is how the members respond.

Rick, I am sure you have been associated with many organizations. You get back what you put in. Please think about joining and being one of the guys that turns the organization into a better one.


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larry eaton
Posted 12/7/2003 6:50 AM (#10133 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 526

Location: blue mounds,wisc
amen MR. CANDLE i agree with you 100 percent
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Rick Larson
Posted 12/7/2003 8:01 AM (#10137 - in reply to #10130)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Good God, never expected an answer like that! Alright, I'll send in for one more year and see what happens.

Honest, really do have alot going on, and an organization who wants my attention needs to be more than "just a way to get a good deal". This is how I viewed the NPAA up to now.

The direction you point the organization will be important as to whether you can hold my attention. You made a nice post showing there is promise.

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Bo582
Posted 12/7/2003 2:28 PM (#10154 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 61

Location: Westland, MI.
Hey Rick, I believe that NPAA is going to be one great organization and we're all going to be proud to be members. Just my 2 cents.
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john mannerino
Posted 12/7/2003 8:31 PM (#10159 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 1188

Location: Chicago IL.
WOW!!! Is this funny. I joined last week. As with anything you get out what you put in. John Mannerino #473
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Posted 12/8/2003 4:17 PM (#10177 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Mr. Candle,
Out of all the members the NPAA has, what % of the members attended the annual meeting this past fall?

jim

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Johnnie Candle
Posted 12/8/2003 10:40 PM (#10185 - in reply to #10177)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Member

Posts: 120

Location: Devils Lake, ND
These numbers are conservative guesses. For more accurate information I would contact the NPAA at [email protected]

On the last day of the conference there were between 50 and 75 people in attendance. I would dguess that to be about 6 to 9 percent of the membership.

It will be difficult to get everyone there. Geography alone is a bug problem, no to mention scheduling. Next year I would expect a better turn out just from the responses of this conference.
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guideman
Posted 12/9/2003 10:37 PM (#10228 - in reply to #10130)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 30

Location: Lake Vermilion Tower,MN
Hey Johnny,
I have been a member for several years now. I wasn't to impressed to get my membership renewal notice, a day before it was due.
Whats up with that?
#278
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Johnnie Candle
Posted 12/10/2003 8:03 AM (#10233 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Member

Posts: 120

Location: Devils Lake, ND
I'm not sure why that happened. Let me look into that for you. That is not a very good way for us to keep memebers and should not happen.

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tomr
Posted 12/10/2003 8:39 AM (#10235 - in reply to #10233)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 7

Johnny, when I sent my renewal in I complained about getting mine on Saturday and needing it to be in on the 10th. Kristene e-mailed me and said that a bulk mailing went out in October and everyone was notified of this December date. She also said we are supposed to be looking at the NPAA web site for updates. Well, not all of us can spend all day looking at web sites and I do feel that if a bulk mailing did go out in October, we still should have gotten the official notification sooner that 3-4 day's prior to it being due.
Tom R. # 360
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Posted 12/10/2003 9:06 AM (#10236 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Sounds like they had some timing issues with the transfer to the new mgmt company and know about it now, shouldn't be an issue in the future. Thanks for answering the questions and keeping everyone up to date Johnnie.
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Johnnie Candle
Posted 12/10/2003 10:26 AM (#10238 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Member

Posts: 120

Location: Devils Lake, ND
Guys/Gals,

All are welcome to ask questions of me anytime. As I mentioned, being the chairman of the membership committee, it is my job to know what is bothering the members so we can work on getting it fixed. Any ideas from members or questions form possible new members can be sent to me at [email protected]

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Posted 12/11/2003 9:00 PM (#10306 - in reply to #10238)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


What is the cost to join, and what are all the bennys other than what have been talked about here? Does the NPAA have some special deal with Walleye Central? I see all sorts of stuff on that board from the NPAA, but nothing here other than JK's posts. You would think the NPAA would post their info everywhere, especially here with the Worls walleye ranking. What is up with that?
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Posted 12/11/2003 9:03 PM (#10307 - in reply to #10306)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Meant John C's posts. And World Walleye rankings. Can't edit my posts.
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guideman
Posted 12/11/2003 9:13 PM (#10310 - in reply to #10307)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 30

Location: Lake Vermilion Tower,MN
Most of the benifits, are for the touring pros. The rest of us get tackle discounts and reduced rates on guide and tournament insurance.

Remember what it stands for;

The National PROFESSIONAL Anglers Association. If your not a guide or tournament angler it may not be what your looking for.
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Rick Larson
Posted 12/11/2003 9:18 PM (#10311 - in reply to #10307)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Ice Sam, you must register to the site to edit. Just click on the logon in the link above.
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zboudreau
Posted 12/12/2003 9:10 AM (#10319 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 240

Location: La Crescent, MN
Ice Sam,

Walleye Central's Operations Manager is Dave Landahl. The NPAA's Management Company is owned by Dave Landahl and his wife. Alot of people will try to connect the dots on this, but there is no connection between the two beyond what was just stated. The NPAA has a board made up of angler members that will ensure that potential conflicts of interests do not manifest themselves negatively. Case in point with Johnnie Candle representing the NPAA here on WF. They ARE spreading the message out, it is in their best interest to do so.

Would we support NPAA announcements on this site as WC has? Sure, but to date we have not been approached or asked. Is this a result of the NPAA's Mgmt Company giving WC's Operations Manager the "scoop"? I highly doubt it.

BTW currently I am not a member of the NPAA. I will, however, be renewing my number 800 after the first of the year.

Zach
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zboudreau
Posted 12/12/2003 9:13 AM (#10320 - in reply to #10319)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 240

Location: La Crescent, MN
Johnnie I would consider getting 6 to 9% of any national membership to show up at a meeting a solid home run.

Zach
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Johnnie Candle
Posted 12/12/2003 9:41 AM (#10321 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.



Member

Posts: 120

Location: Devils Lake, ND
I enjoy sharing my knowledge of the NPAA with anyone that has questions. I thnk Zach hit the nail onthe head with Dave and WC and the NPAA. There is no malice intended in his actions.

As far as the bennies go for joining the NPAA. The quick hit list is the insurance program and the mebers only discount program at Reed's Sporting Goods.

The long term benefits are: Association with a professional organization, being part of a group that is trying to make a difference in professional angling, being part of a knowledge base that is incredible.

The NPAA membership is diverse and large. The information I have gained formt his group over the years is tremendous. The members are our strangest assest. Gary Parsons made a statement that he would be willingto help out any member of the NPAA the best he could if they ever asked him. The question is, Who has ever asked him? I know I have, and he helps the best he can. I also extend this to all the members. Where else can you draw from this kind of knowledge?

Point being is that a ton of the benefits are intangible. If you are to shy or timid to ask of the membership, you probably won't get the benefits that you could. The organization has improved dramatically since the new board took over things. We are financially sound again, and are looking for exciting things in the future. Please remember this is a large organization and things don't happen over night.

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sworrall
Posted 12/12/2003 10:06 PM (#10342 - in reply to #10321)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.




Location: Rhinelander
Zach, Maybe you are right, I hope so. I would hope the folks who manage the NPAA would send releases and information to all Media, including OutdoorsFIRST. John has helped represent the group here well, but I'm betting he is doing a great job, and that information isn't exclusive to WalleyeFIRST.

There are a group of NPAA announcements on WC that aren't here, which I find odd. Believe me, they know we are here! I would hope the NPAA would see to it that ALL media gets announcements and news releases; that is the standard behavior one would expect of a National organization that represents Professional anglers to the media and the Industry.

I am no longer a member, but will renew this year.
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K. Landahl
Posted 12/13/2003 10:04 AM (#10354 - in reply to #10342)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


New User

Posts: 2

Location: geneva, IL
Hello,

Just so you folks know, there was no formal press release sent to media members regarding the collection of NPAA dues. The only reason the notice was posted on Walleye Central was a time consideration and the fact that I have had previous business dealings with Scott Golden and received his permission. I hope to enjoy the same professional relationship with Zach and Steve in the future.

However, do not look for future information regarding dues or NPAA business to be sent to Walleyes First or any other site. Currently and in the future, all our direct Internet correspondence will be on the NPAA website, www.npaa.net. The reason for this, of course, is to have a central location where the membership can have straight information with no hearsay or speculation regarding the happenings with the NPAA. Standard press releases coming from our offices will of course be sent to all appropriate media, including Walleyes First.

One last note, the NPAA is a professional organization. I highly encourage you to spend time on the web, talking to other anglers and networking, sharing ideas and socializing. However, when it comes to NPAA, it is in everyone's best interest to spend time on our own web site, pose your questions or comments to the appropriate parties and to maintain professional decorum at all times.

NPAA members or interested parties can also contact me at [email protected], [email protected] or by phone at 630-845-2766.

Thanks for allowing me to post this information on your site.

Kristin Landahl
Half Swede Inc.
Management Group for NPAA
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sworrall
Posted 12/13/2003 10:20 AM (#10357 - in reply to #10354)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.




Location: Rhinelander
Kristin,
Thank you for your reply. Please send press releases or general news items of interest to an aspiring Pro or Guide to [email protected].

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K. Landahl
Posted 12/13/2003 10:26 AM (#10358 - in reply to #10357)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


New User

Posts: 2

Location: geneva, IL
Steve,

You are welcome. Please feel free to contact me if you need any questions answered regarding the NPAA and please let me know what we can do for you and Walleyes First.

Kristin Landahl
Half Swede Inc.
Management Group for NPAA
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walleye mike
Posted 12/13/2003 11:27 AM (#10363 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


Member

Posts: 194

Location: Northern Illinois
I will also be signing up for NPAA. I was very curious as to whether the organization would survive, and what I gain from it. A key motivator for me was the professionalism and help I recieved from Kristin immediately following the annual meeting.

She clearly and openly answered my questions. She even gave me access to the meeting notes so I could better judge the tone and direction.

Johnnies C's participation in this thread seem to be quite honest. I appreciate that.

I am joining for 2004.

WM
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Posted 12/15/2003 3:51 PM (#10437 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: RE: N.P.A.A.


I wonder , given the wide "girth" of the NPAA meebrship if it wouldn't be possible to have satellite groups from certain geographical areas. It would certainly be nice to meet with other members more than once a year, having regional meetings quarterly would be one way to acheive this.
Rob Stratton
NPAA #813
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