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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Thinking back on my first exposure to fishing the Huron area of Lake Erie with my bud Ron during the WC get together, who by the way had also never fished there, the question of just how much did I really learn came to mind. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about the help I got via a few message boards and other personal hints on where to go and what to use during our brief visit to strange waters. Theres no doubt that catching 22 walleyes up to 11 pounds in a day and a half, is the ultimate walleye dream come true. And believe me, every single thing that happened on that trip went into the old memory bank for further reference. Yet, if I had to mention a down side to being successful without to much physical or mental effort, it would be that few tricks for future trips are gleamed from the experience.
I think a lot of times when the bite is tough, I think things through better and come up with my best innovative ideas or try places and techniques that might have otherwise went untested. Case in point was the spoon sliders this year on the Saginaw Bay. If the fishing had not been tougher this past summer. You can bet, 60 to 80 back with 1/4 ounce Tot's trolled at 2.8 to 3.2 would have been my program every single day. So what do you consider to be the best teacher as far as fishing is concerned, Success or failure? | |
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Location: Neenah Wi | I would have to say success is the better teacher.One reason is you remember the success much more than the failure.Also you will have the confidence in one method or area and confidence will outfish doubt every time.This may be due to the fact that you will give the technique or area some time to work.If you are trying a new area or method you will be quick to dismiss this as a failure and move on.I'm not saying not to try new things just that you will be more apt to switch to a proven method or area than stick with something new.Success breeds success.This is one of the reasons I like to go out with different people to learn new and different things.Also this and other boards are a wealth of info.Happy Holidays
Edited by Risor39 12/25/2003 7:37 PM
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My idea is to continually fish new patterns and styles. When my hooks meet with success, rarely do I spend much time repeating this tactic. When I meet with failure, I'll go back to this tactic many times until I learn the when, where, and why of it.
So for me, failure is a bit more of a learning experience. But with the overcoming of failure, means one has become successful...
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| They both have their lessons. It's all in how you interpet and proccess those lessons that you improve yourself. What might be a failure today at one place could be a success another day somewhere else. The greatest lesson you can learn is that you can always learn something every day of your life if you are willing to look for it, and have an open mind. | |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | You need both. If you have nothing but failure you'll never know if you're getting close to the solution. On the other hand, a little success can be dangerous. I forgot who originally came up with the phrase "one fish does not make a pattern", but it applies here.
Your interpretation of what is happening around you is the most important element. If you're wired in on presentation, as an example, and you work an area with no hits you may be able to assume that there are no fish there. If you have no clue on what's happening that day and you catch no fish at a given spot, do you assume that there are no fish there, you're not giving them the right presentation, or they're not hungry?
It's always interesting at weigh-ins to find out how people solved the puzzle.
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Location: Rhinelander | I kept a very detailed log for over 15 years when I was guiding alot, and found that the best teacher was a careful study as to exactly WHY I either succeeded or failed. The dozens of daily variables seemed to fall somewhat into place when compiled into several months and then years of data. If one wishes to repeat a success, one needs to know as closely as possible why the day went well in the first place, and then be able to recreate the framework. There are some excellent log books available as software now, and I advise using one carefully, especially if one is exploring new territory, either in the form of new water or new techniques.
Every lake/river had it's own personality, and yet every lake/river also had some constants as well. I found that recreating what went wrong on days when the net was empty was much harder than recreating what went right on the good days. | |
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Location: Akron, Ohio | I find that success is the best teacher. Maybe, because when I'm catching a lot of walleye I will experiment with new presentations or techniques. However when I'm not catching fish, I seem to go to all the usual well this got them on whatever day it was, and maybe not looking at why they aren't biting or that maybe some unusual tactic will work. | |
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What's the best fishing teacher, success or failure?