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Location: Omro,Wi. | Ok guys heres the deal.I'm going to order a new boat,in a month,so what do I get?Been leaning towards a Ranger,619 or a Triton 2050.Both have features I want,but I want your input on all the rigs out there,and what to rig it with,as far as mapping gps,graphs,etc.Build me the perfect boat...hafe |
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Where, or rather, what type water (river, big lake, ect.) do you plan to use it on the most? |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | Winnebago most,with Greenbay,and Baydenocs next.Do need lots of storage,and a center rod locker is a must have. |
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| Ah Hafe!! I think you should buy a 1895 Storm TSC. Good luck with your new boat. I'll see ya in the spring near the over hanging tree by the dam.
Bob
Edited by Moose 1/29/2004 7:44 PM
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| A big water boat needs to be long - 20 feet or better - made of glass, and you will need 200 horses or more for maximum control.
Did ride in alot of different boats 2 years ago while entered as an amateur in the highest profile walleye tournaments, and came away with the opinion of never wanting to buy a metal boat. Not to say they aren't good boats, just that they ride a little rough in big waves.
Also crossed out every hull not being a true deep-v.
The flatness in a hull is a very bad liability in big waves. Just as you slap your hands, vs spliting one palm with the forehand, its the same difference with boats either slappping upon re-entry, or slicing it.
Again, not to say a flatter boat is bad, just that a deep-v is better in big waves. Alot of people here know that the boat I bought last year was a Patriot, and will vouch for its ability to ride smooth in the roughest water.
But will mention one other thing about this boat I own. Don't think the low price of it (it's the lowest priced boat per foot that I know of) will last very long. It is in the beginning stages of success, and now enjoys very little costs normally associated with a full-blown high-service organization. Heck, if you were to compare how many employees, offices, fishing junkets, and promotions being done by different boat manufacturers per boat, you will find The Patriot on the bottom of the heap.
Should these people (Patriot) succeed, look for higher prices as it's inevitable the organization will grow, as will the price.
He who hesitates is lost (or will pay more).
Edited by Rick Larson 1/29/2004 8:07 PM
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| Price being equal I would probably pick the Triton, nice boat. One question I have about the Rangers that I have never been able to figure out. Why are the seats so low? You litterally sit on the floor in those boats, and the 619 in particular was a very rough ride for me, but great to fish out of. The 620 I think is a very nice ride, but would also be improved with a higher seat/console position. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | interesting comment about the 619 ride.I thought with only a 8 inch differance to the 620,it would not change much.The seating also brings up another consideration,and that is I don't want the sides to be so high,that I've got to hold my hand line rods up when trolling.Keep the sugestions,and comments going...hafe
Needs To Have:
1. center rod locker
2. ample storage
3. good ride
4. double console
5. Rear casting deck,or option for one. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | <P> Originally written by Moose on 2004-01-29 7:41 PM<BR><BR>Ah Hafe!! I think you should buy a 1895 Storm TSC. Good luck with your new boat. I'll see ya in the spring near the over hanging tree by the dam. Bob </P><P>I was hoping you forgot about that spot LOL..just pull in behind me....hafe</P> |
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Location: Neenah, WI | If I had to choose between those 2 I would pick the Triton. I've fished from several Rangers and always came out of it with a sore lower back due to sitting so low and not being able to get my feet under me to use my legs for shock absorbers. I ran a 202 Triton for 2 years and really liked it. The top end was faster and it handled big water better.
I'm not here to bash Ranger. They make a great boat but mainly I don't like the way you have to sit. I'll anticipate a suggestion that will unbdoubtedly be forthcoming about installing Glyde Rides or other aftermarket seats. Why should I have to spend a bunch more money on an expensive boat after I buy it?
Good luck with your decision. Boat shopping is a lot of fun.
Good fishin' to ya. |
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Location: Rockford MN | I dont know if you would want a 619 to guide from. The 619 is 19'-2" but has a 6" set back which would make the boat 18'-8". I would look towards a bigger boat if your fishing the bigger waters. Three boats I would take a good look at would be:
Triton's new 21' very nice layout! Wish more guys had it in the water so we know how it handles.
Skeeter 2050 good layout! Massive storage, Proven big water hull.
Ranger 621 good layout! Seats still on the floor, tons of room. Slow in comparison to the other big boats out there.
These are in no paticular order! 3 people in a boat on bigger waters need the room to move around! |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Being a Crestliner owner and having ridden in just about everything that's out there, I would suggest.....my Lund that I currently have for sale!!!
Seriously, I would consider the Triton over the Ranger, but I also like the Tracker Tundra over both. Mega storage and the best big water riding boat out there. The layout is a little difficult to work with, but I think they may have altered it for the 2004 models.
The 619 Ranger is great for Winnebago and the chain, and it will work okay for Green Bay and Bay de Noc, but it is a little on the small side, at least, for my liking. The Triton 192 and 202 are great rides too, but I would take the 202 over the 192 just for the additional size. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Hafe:
Don't wait too long if you want it for early ice out fishing. If the dealer doesn't have it in stock you may end up waiting 2 months to get it if you ordered today. Nothing id more frustrating than missing "the run" because of unkept promises. Someone suggested the Skeeter, it's a nice boat that I would consider if I left the aluminum world, but you don't want high sides and it has the highest amoung the boats mentioned. You're getting great advise. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Here are the regionals, all good boats:
Patriot
Yar Craft
Warrior
Tuffy
Good boats, local and well built.
The Big Boys, in the order in which I think they ride, hold up, and perform:
Ranger
Triton
Charger
Champion
Skeeter
Plenty to choose from! Best is to speak with those who have run each model hard, and then go look at them.
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Location: sheboygan,wisconsin | listen I read all the posts,and all I can tell is do your homework,if you want the BEST buy a ranger the quailty is outstanding go check the fit and finish! ever wonder why you hear rides better than a ranger,faster than a ranger,more room than a ranger and so on. there is a reason everyone compares there boats to a ranger.The answer to your question simple 620 ranger. |
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| Yar-Craft has a 21' Storm they are close to releasing. I don't know if it would be in time for this spring, but if it is, make sure you take a look at it. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | Field is narrowing down. I have ruled out for varies reasons the: Warrior,Tundra,Javelin,,Lund,Crestliner,Yarcraft.
Have to deside between the following.....
Ranger 620VS
Patriot 2050DC (Need Center Rod Locker Model?)
Skeeter ZX2050
Tuffy 1990Pro DS
Triton 205DC.
Any or all comments or experiences on these models is greatly appreciated...hafe
Edited by Hafe 1/31/2004 7:52 AM
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| Yep, has space for 12 rods.
There is a fella in West Bend who bought one new last year and barely used it. He is wanting to sell it (I know why, but you can ask him yourself) and his name is Pat Gahan and number is #1-920-335-3569. You'll fall over when you hear his price!
It's a sister boat to mine and will vouch for it's performance.
Editor's Note: Pat is not selling his rig this year, he has decided to keep it for another year.
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| Will do Hafe.
Bob Hearn |
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| If you are looking for a Big water boat with the best ride out there,consider the 21 Tundra Walleye Pro Edition.I had a 619 and there is NO comparison.I have out performed even the 620! Check with Moon Marine in FonduLac.Mine will be for sale in the fall if you are interested.I keep it in Neenah if you want to look at it some time. Good Luck I'll be working the GreenBay boat show ,stop by and I will show you more boat for your money....Todd Mueller |
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Location: Rockford MN | Hafe
Do you have a price range your stickin to? Prices can make a huge diffrence here. |
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| Hafe,
Sound like you are going to have a lot of fun shopping in the coming weeks. Also, with your knowledge base, it appears you are doing a little trolling this winter! I am tired of winter already. See you on the soft water.
Take care,
Jim O |
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| Those $49,000 ride are awsome!Hafe you'll get alot better price buying one thats 1 to 2 years old.A new boats value will drop about 5k a year.Ouch that hurts just thinking about it! |
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Location: Berlin | I have owned a Triton 205 for three years. I have not had one problem with the boat itself. I have fished the great lakes without any problem. The thing I like the most about my boat is the layout. I can fit about 20 rods in the rod locker and they can all be 9' long! The front deck is huge and the side storage compartments have never had a drop of water in them. I fish almost every day from ice out till Spetember and after three years it still looks almost like new. You can even put a 250 on a 205 if you want. There is only one drawback to the Triton and that is you can't fish the RCL in one. Other than that it is as perfect a boat money can buy. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | The more I look at these boats the harder its getting to pick just one! Wish someone would just drop one off in my yard! The problem is they are so close in set ups,that a flip of the coin maybe the answer..or just let the wife pick the pretty one!.keep the suggestions and comments going,it helps...hafe |
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