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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Was thinking about the coming night-time, post spawn walleye bite on the Saginaw Bay and just how many of my canceled ice clients this winter (because of crummy ice travel conditions) I could talk into transfering their deposits over to that gig.
Then started thinking about the most asked questions I get from clients when fishing at night and using In-Line boards. And even some of my most savvy fishing buds scratch theirs heads when they see me put six boards out (three on each side) and reel in the outside board with fish attached without pulling in the others and without getting any tangles.
Now, I'd like to say I have some secret or neat trick for doing this, but I don't. And until confronted by some shocked observers that I was doing so, thought that was the normal operation and procedure while using the boards.
So is it rare to leave the other two boards out and not get tangled up with them when pulling a fish in on the outside board? Or have I just been lucky?
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Location: Westland, Mich. | a lot of the time I’ll hand the inside line to the 2nd mate and either have him reel in and put the board in the boat and at least reel up a little and hold the line over to the other side. i then reel in at my best pace, sometimes going to the front of the boat to keep clear of the other line. if it's a small fish some times i can reel in fast enough to keep the board swimming to the outside. on other occasions i have dropped the inside line back while reeling in the outside line. There is never a method that I use all the time. I’d like to know what your secret is, it would be nice to have a method that works in all situations. yeh, it's rare to just reel in without a tangle. if you do it all the time i'ts not just luck. Maybe I’ll book one of those night trips with you to find out how it works.
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Location: Rhinelander | I simply drop the inside boards back, reel the outside board in under them. When everything is in control, I engage the reels. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | <P>Same method for me,dropping the two inside boards back,but I pull the outside board forward,about half way to the second board first...another question for you guys.how many run the inside board off the rear pole( my method) some of my buddies run the outside board in the rear holder,middle board in the center,and inside board in the front,I seem to get more crossed lines their way on turns.....hafe</P>
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Location: Plover, WI | For me it all depends on what the fish is doing. If it's a nice fish, they'll usually pull the board straight back and clear everything no problem. If it's not doing that quick enough then I'll do what the other guys do, drop the other boards back.
If no fish is on and I'm just checking the line you can clear it without touching the other 2 depending on how your leads are set up. Or you can just drop the other lines back, or your 3rd option if you have the room is to make a little more than slight turn torwards that boards side and if you reel fast you can clear it in front of the other 2 boards. |
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Location: Westland, Mich. | when i run my big boards i set my lines like that. outsid line in rear holder, middle line in middle holder with line under the rear line and inside line in the front holder with that line under the other two. when you get a release(middle) the line drops under the rear(outside) line and over the front(inside) line. the result is very few tangles. with inlne boards the rear holder is always the inside line and under the others. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Originally written by JAKE on 2004-02-15 2:48 PM
a lot of the time I’ll hand the inside line to the 2nd mate and either have him reel in and put the board in the boat and at least reel up a little and hold the line over to the other side. i then reel in at my best pace, sometimes going to the front of the boat to keep clear of the other line. if it's a small fish some times i can reel in fast enough to keep the board swimming to the outside. on other occasions i have dropped the inside line back while reeling in the outside line. There is never a method that I use all the time. I’d like to know what your secret is, it
would be nice to have a method that works in all situations. yeh, it's rare to just reel in without a tangle. if you do it all the time i'ts not just luck. Maybe I’ll book one of those night trips with you to find out how it works.
Jake.
I usually run the same type lures on all boards, but seldom at very different line lengths and depths. I will cover different depths but usually with the opposite side boards. I also run as many as 4 on a side during the summer off my BIG boat at times, and still stay lucky I guess. Most times then, the walleyes are very higher in the water column and need shorter leads than what my Big mast and Otter boats can occomodate without making the lures jump out of the water.
In general, I'll hold or instruct clients to hold the rod as high as I/they can, and coax the fish inside the other boards by pulling in that direction. Seems the weight of the fish takes it back far enough to avoid the other lines when bringing it in. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Originally written by Hafe on 2004-02-15 4:28 PM
<P>Same method for me,dropping the two inside boards back,but I pull the outside board forward,about half way to the second board first...another question for you guys.how many run the inside board off the rear pole ( my method ) some of my buddies run the outside board in the rear holder,middle board in the center,and inside board in the front,I seem to get more crossed lines their way on turns.....hafe</P>
Hafe.
Nope, I start at the front with the outside board. I have my holders probably 5 feet apart strating at the front of my smaller 18 footer I run for the night trips. Front being the farthest out
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| Ok guys, You've brought up an interesting topic, I fish Winnebago ALOT and this is very interesting discussion, As for dropping the inside boards back I agree. My question is regarding line lengths, When "looking" for fish, what depths do you run your boards at? Personally I have done many things but find that when I run my inside boards longer I have less tangles. A good friend of mine once told me to run them like you would when setting coys for ducks, keep the pattern to a "V" and work inside deeper. What do you think? Remember bago is only 20' and covering the column with #5 shad raps is the most efective way to find fish for me!
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Location: Wind lake, Wi | I have an extra rod holder mount on the back of each side of the boat for this reason. If I get a fish on the left outside board then I simply take the left inside board and put it to the back holder on the right side and reel in a little line this puts the board a little to the right on dead center. Then the middle board gets reeled up half way and put in the front holder. Now I bring in the outside board with the fish on it to the corner of the boat. After unhooking the fish return the outside board then the middle and the inside one last. Never had any problems with this method unless both outside boards go at the same time. Then I'll usually reel up all the lines (with the help of your partner) and take it from there. Now if the ice would just leave the lakes!! |
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Location: Neenah Wi | I run the v pattern to start things out until I get an idea of what depth the fish are at on that paticular day.I take it you are using snap weights to get additional depth with the #5 shad raps?I like to mix the sizes up.I was told smaller raps early in the year then go larger later in the year.But that is a general rule.What do you guys think? |
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Risor,
I think to put a huge bait on that outside board. Like a Thunderstick Magnum (hard to find 'em), or a Mann's Giant Jerkbait. When a Big Fish takes the Big Bait, the board will sink under the surface and quickly find itself directly behind the boat!
No tangles, no problems, and big fish! |
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Location: Appleton | I have two extra rod holders in the back of the boat on each side. If I get a fish on the outside I bring the two inside rods to the extra rod holders on the other side of the boat. I found this set up in a Walleye Insider magazine. It has worked great for me. |
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Location: Omro,Wi. | I will start by runnig the inside board at 3-feet off bottom,( I believe the boat noise,will put suspending fish down)the middle at the center of the water column,and the outside at 3-feet,below the surface,when setting up on a school of fish.I will run one type of bait,at a time,I vary the colors,keeping the brighter ones deeper,and darker colors,on the outside,(shallow).One thing about the winnebago system,is if you don't mark fish,or see lines on a 45% angle on your graph,always run one line (at least one),3-feet down.The lines are fish,spooked by the boat noise,and going down.When the depth and color begins to show a pattern,I adjust the other boards,and baits,to match. Like many others,I have extra rod holders,in the back,to put the poles in I have reeled up.I do leave the boards,that I bring in,in the water,just behind the boat,you never know,when one of them,could catch a fish,and it does happen,quite often....hafe |
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| Thanks for the comments. I now know what to do next year! The idea with the extra holders in the back is great. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Originally written by Rookie on 2004-02-17 5:27 PM
Thanks for the comments. I now know what to do next year! The idea with the extra holders in the back is great.
Guys.
Through the discussion about this subject on three different boards I posted it on, I've finally realized that the reason I don't have trouble is because I don't slow down when theres a fish on. Especially on my Big boat during the summer when I can have as many as 10 lines with 20 lures out.
I simply keep going at the speed I'm trolling. The sheer weight of both the fish and the (tow torgue) being generated by the water on both him and the board, keeps the boards and the fishes little or big butt above and back away from the others when being retrieved.
A little more strenuous for everybody concerned and probably not the safest method for landing every fish you get on, but I've been lucky in that category as well. Thank's for all the insight though. Not being a religious In-Line board user, I really didn't realize most of you guys slowed down to real in those boards. 
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You think you have problems. Try using nine boards while fishing for trout!
One time I had a Salmon take a spoon on the outside board, he raced straight to the other side of the boat and collected 7 other lines with him.
We had that guy rope tied!
Or rather, he had us... |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Originally written by Rick Larson on 2004-02-18 10:20 AM
You think you have problems. Try using nine boards while fishing for trout!
One time I had a Salmon take a spoon on the outside board, he raced straight to the other side of the boat and collected 7 other lines with him.
Kinda know what you mean Rick.
Never used Dipseys very much during my Salmon hey-day either. But last year in Manistee I went with a bud on his 33 footer and thats all we used with Huchie Mama's attractors and flies. Man, when a mint silver 25 pound king hits a rod already torqued from the dipsey and the huchie, you'll only race to grab the rod one time before you decide to become the net man for the next few.
We had that guy rope tied!
Or rather, he had us...
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Retrieving outside board when running cranks.