Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin coming to an end?
Dean C.
Posted 3/25/2004 9:03 PM (#15650)
Subject: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin coming to an end?


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Location: Kiel, WI
I heard on the radio that the Wisconsin legislature has passed a bill that gives the DNR the power to regulate tournaments as small as 20 boats on any given body of water in the state. Is this the begining of the end or what? Are fees for holding a tourny going up? What does everyone think? This seems fishy to me that this bill was pushed through the last day of the session.
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Musky Fishin Kevin
Posted 3/26/2004 10:33 AM (#15674 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?



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Location: Sth/side Chicago
I don't want to start any trouble, but the dnr really should have the power to regulate touney's in a state.. I fish in Indiana a lot and where I am at there are wayyy tooo many tourney's(bass not walleye) and they have done a pretty good job ruining the bass fisheries. These particular lakes are just a little small in size for the number of tourney's they would get in a weekend...
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eyedoktr
Posted 3/26/2004 11:19 AM (#15676 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


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Location: Webster,NY
I wish they'd ruin the bass fishing around here. Every bass tourney should be catch and keep only. Help us get rid of some of those "green carp".
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It's about time!!!!
Posted 3/26/2004 12:27 PM (#15678 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


There are way too many tournaments. It is getting ridiculous. Can't anyone just go and fish anymore without being in a tournament? It is a shame that our natural resources have to take such a beating for the sake of the almighty dollar.
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Joel "Doc" Kunz
Posted 3/26/2004 1:04 PM (#15680 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?



This is a positive step for fishing in general. The un-regulated fishingn tournament era created a situation in some waters that was counter productive to local tourism. By giving the DNR control it will help to work as an interface between an entire community and those wishing to hold a tournament. The DNR's regulation can help to set boundries, number of entries, how the fish are handled and other factors. This is shown in how the PWT has set specific rules for the event out of Winneconne in recognition of how their event affects the local fisherman and visiting recreational anglers all the way to New London. I'm sorry but the local bar owner that holds a tournament doesn't want a long list of regulations, strict no wake rules, shortened boundries and other issues to have to try and enforce. He wants a field of 50. some fun and the profit from a lot of people centered around his establishment for the day. Is there anything wrong with that? NO!!! We just need a way to regulate them in order to keep them from taking over every weekend on every traditional good bite. I mean, do you tjink you'd ever see the PWT here in JULY??. Heck you can run the entire river at 6 AM on a weekday and count the boats on one hand. Point is, tournaments concentrate on what is traditionally a good bite. UN-regulated, too many people trying to profit from it by holding a tournament is a bad thing. We need at least some tournament free weekneds to draw more families and smaller boats back the Wolf. Believe me, I get the emails. I'm SURE other fisheries feel the same.
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Loren Waalkens
Posted 3/26/2004 2:03 PM (#15682 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


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Location: Lake City MN
I am in total agreement that there needs to be some control over the number of tournaments that are being held in many areas. I don't think that they need to be eliminated but it is very obvious that the organisers of these events can not be left to govern themselves. In my neck of the woods(pool 4 on the Miss.) things have really gotten out of hand. From April to mid June they have become a weekly event with more on the horizon. I remember the day when there were fewer tourneys that non tourney people actually looked forward to these events, now they are becomming dreaded like the plague. Maybe I simplify things to much but I have to believe that there is a common ground where we can all have the best of both worlds. Am I dreaming?. I am hearing more and more talk from both sides of the isle and feel that something has to be done before the issue divides us as sportsman more than it allready has.
Loren Waalkens
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JonN
Posted 3/26/2004 2:59 PM (#15690 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?



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Location: Annandale, MN
Yep...I noticed a topic in the tournaments forum on WC that started as announcing another tourney and soon it was turned into an us and them issue (I stayed out of that one). I would tend to agree with loren, there are way too many events scheduled, especially on pool 4 (bass & walleye events). Unregulated and unchecked the place is turning into a zoo so I guess I see this as a start of things to come and MN should follow suit. I don't think tournaments are bad at all, I still fish events around the state of MN, but there needs to be some type of balance. In my humble opinion, the DNR is the only formal organization that could perform that job. Nav
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Tyee
Posted 3/26/2004 5:39 PM (#15697 - in reply to #15690)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


JohN you are so right....boy this is going to be interesting. Many people had no idea what AB623 was about and didn't bother to voice their opinions. I for one have been actively participating in this for well over a year. I can't wait to read the comments as it begins to get attention. I honestly believe tournament anglers (Especially Bass guys) are going to have to defend themselves even more!
Good Luck
Tyee
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seerad
Posted 3/26/2004 8:52 PM (#15703 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?



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Location: Mt Prospect, IL
Besides waverunners, nothing ticks me off more than an aggressive bass tournament fisherman who thinks he owns the water (10 feet from my boat...argghh). Maybe a few other things, but that's up there on the list. I know of a few that I would love to regulate.-seerad
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Brad B
Posted 3/26/2004 10:38 PM (#15706 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Government at its finest - both the assembly and senate passed this on the last day of their session. I was in contact with my Senator several time between the time the Assembly passed this and when the Senate did and I didn't find out about this until the night before the senate took it up.
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eyelunker
Posted 3/26/2004 10:58 PM (#15707 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


I hope not i'm just getting into tourny fishing.And i love it
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Hangman
Posted 3/27/2004 9:21 AM (#15719 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


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Location: Glenwood,Mn.
Mn. DNR issues permits and regulates tournies and has been doing so for some time. They specify the size and number of tournies and wether they will be catch & release or kill. A group that hosted a tourney on a certain lake at a certain time one year gets preference for that same time the next. They determine all this by the acreage of the lake so they don't overload things. This system seems to work pretty well. Maybe Mn. and Wis. DNR will work together on Pool 4 to keep folks from border jumping to get a permit in one state if they can't get one in the other. These tourneys do need to be spread out a bit to lessen the pressure on the river. I have nothing against tourneys as I enjoy fishing them myself. I just think there needs to be some regulation. Dave
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Jigman
Posted 3/27/2004 11:48 AM (#15723 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?


After visiting several other walleye related websites, what a joy it was to find a group of anglers that (mostly) support my position on tournament fishing!
I had incorrectly assumed this thread would be entirely tournament "pros" whining about the new legislation being proposed. I couldn't have been more wrong.

No need to voice my opinion as it so closely resembles what many (including Doc) have said.
I take a much harsher stance towards tournaments, but realize the need for cooperation.

Keep up the good work. I'm hooked!

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sworrall
Posted 3/27/2004 1:08 PM (#15725 - in reply to #15723)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin comming to an end?




Location: Rhinelander
I agree with Hangman for the most part. Regulation of events, ALL events that use the resource we all share should reflect resource reality, and protect both the resource and ALL angler's privelege. Opinions about tournaments will vary, dependant on one's perspective and vision of the sport of Walleye fishing.

I have been involved with competitive walleye angling since the beginning, and feel the overall impact on the sport has been extremely positive for the most part.

Of course, competition involves people, and people will be what they are. One can expect that there will be both extremes of the possible spectrum exhibited now and again, as with anything involving a wide variety of people.

What's important here is that everyone has a right to their feelings and opinion, and any debate that occurs stays fair, open and friendly.
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Tyee
Posted 3/27/2004 5:00 PM (#15730 - in reply to #15650)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin coming to an end?


I'm Glad to see you all support tournament Regulation! I feel the same way but........ At what expense is the real question here. The bill was a reaction to B.A.S.S and FLW trying to allow culling in WI. I hear there was not enough support for the bill statewide untill B.A.S.S and the FLW supported and proposed changes to alow THEM to cull and give THEM a special priveledge. This is why I have adamently opposed both bills.. but if we have to live with it. I guess we all have to make saccrafices.
Good Luck
Tyee
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sworrall
Posted 3/27/2004 7:41 PM (#15735 - in reply to #15730)
Subject: RE: Is tourny fishing in Wisconsin coming to an end?




Location: Rhinelander
Tyee,
Generally, I don't like any more regulation than is already in place, but if more regulation is to be so, then tournaments needs to be managed openly, fairly, and with balance no matter the specie fished for. We will see!

I was speaking to the debate here, mostly.
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