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| Hey guys....
I've been enjoying the heck out of walleye fishing while waiting for the norther WI musky season to open up... and I'm trying to learn a little more about the sport. I have always used 6-8 lb mono on my spinning rods but I've read where some guys are using lighter weight/diameter version of the superbraids (tuff, fireline, powerpro, etc.)
Guess I'm wondering when/why you use the superbraids over mono..? Any suggestions on brand/weight that casts nice off of a spinning reel... I recenlty purchased a new reel that came with an extra spool and I'm thinking of putting super braid on one of the spools...
Thanks in advace... I apprecaite the help.
Mark Hintz
www.muskyadventures.com
Eau Claire, WI
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So far I have found 2 good uses for the stuff. One is when pitching jigs in zebra-mussel laden rocks. The tougher superstuff can work through the sharp edges of the mussel shells while the mono gets cut.
And secondly, the stuff is a narrow diameter and cuts through the water easily. So will use it while trolling with heavy weights to get my baits presented in swift current or deeper water.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | I use 10-2 Power Pro for all my jigging and rigging now.
Rick, it works GREAT in the cane TOO. | |
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Location: Menominee MI, In Da UP Eh? | Hiya Mark.
Superlines are here to stay and advancing more and more in terms of options and quality.
On all spinning rods in my collection, you will find superlines. Casting equipment is being gradually switched over as well.
The idead of switching gradually is a good one as you basically have to re learn how to fish, set the hook and re learn how lures perform on the new lines.
It can be a dramatic difference.
One real good suggestion, the one that was showen to me and has worked, is to start with a superline of the same diameter as the mono you are using. The rerasoning is simple, your lures will basically perform the same in terms of depth during retrive and sink rate.
As you become familiar with the lne, the sky is the limit. On my jigging rods, I am using Sea King ultra in 10lb test. It has about a 4 lb mono diameter. For casting to shore with jigs, especially where a longer "hang Time " is needed, use a larger diameter line. It will not matter to the fish, but you will be able to have your offering stay in the srike zone longer.
As was soon eveident to me, an 1/8th ounce jig soon became a brick with the small diameter lines. In many cases what was once the preferred weight became too heavy to work properly.
The same scenario has proved true with casting cranks and spinnerbaits. The lures get deeper, faster. The same is true for rolling. Your lures will run deeper on a superline.
I Have used Berkely Fireline for many years but last year switched over to Sea King Ultra for several reasons.
First it is a smaller diameter and the company promotes it as stronger for it's diameter than comperable lines. Second, the line is a twist, not a braid or fusion product, therby being round, it lays on the spool better. Third, the price! It is much more affordable than any other line I have found. You can get a 300 yd spool for about the same price of anyone elses 125 yd spool.
They are based in my hometown of Menominee MI, and I happened to make a sales call on them for work. I did not know they made fishing line till I was there. It also turns out the Joe Mans works for them and I knew Joe, kind of in passing, from the tournament trail.
Anyway, after trying the stuff, it was love at first sight.
I do not mean to sound like a commercial for the line, and I am not sponsored by them. But we will have it for sale here, and you asked! LOL!! | |
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| Appreciate the help...
OK...here's another question...
When using it on a jig/rig rod does it offer the same, better, or less sensitivity than mono..?
I don't worry much about the sensitivity thing on my musky rods...they generally aren't too shy about taking a lure... 
Thanks again... | |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Much much better sensitivity!
I still remember the first time I used it and was setting the hook all the time because I felt things I never felt before.
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| Mark,
A couple of points that are important (to me) about switching to a superline from mono and have been touched on already. The sensitivity is probably 4 to 5x that of mono because of the reduced stretch. If you want a little less line vis at your jig and to slow the fall rate slightly, tie on a 3-5' length of mono or floro of your choice (with a back-to-back uni-knot). I like the flame green Fireline in 4/10 for vertical jigging and pitching. It has a little more memory than braid, which I think is too limp for a spinning reel (IMO). Remember to set you drag lighter so it will slip (noticably) upon hookset. If your hooking them right in the beak you won't pull to many hooksout, but you could break a rod if your a power hookset kind of guy! Also, if you snag, make sure you wrap the line around something you don't want cut off (like your finger) to pull the snag free. Once you try the superlines for jigging you won't want to go back!
Tim | |
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| Thanks again..
I remember years ago when I switched my musky tackle over from mono and the old braided line that it took me a little getting used to the no stretch and not having to set the hook 3 to 4 times... No doubt with eye's it would be the same...
I'll pick up a spool at Gander this weekend and give it a try...
Mark | |
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Location: Rhinelander | Mark,
As you know, I fish with jigs ALOT, and had a real problem with the superlines. I set the hook way too early with the superlines due to the superb sensitivity, and couldn't break myself, no matter how I tried. This year I managed to adapt some by doing a 2 count and setting the hook. I rarely mis a fish that has the jig now, but still have to concentrate and not jump the gun. | |
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Location: Kaukauna, Wi. | when using slip-bobbers with Fireline, i usually count to 10 before setting the hook. I found that i get a much better hook set this way, instead of setting the hook as soon as the bobber goes underwater. When jigging, the sensitivity of the line is unmatched. Of couse, these are my ways of doing things. | |
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| When ? All the time Why ? Because it puts more fish in my boat. period.
You hook em,,,,,, you own em | |
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Location: Alpharetta, GA | Wow, this must be a great forum with 9 answers in just a couple of days. Got to throw my 2 cents in on braided lines. I'm a walleye fisherman wannabe. I live in Georgia. We have 2 lakes with walleye and I've got a new boat... Mostly I fish saltwater - stripers, king & spanish mackerel, snook, redfish, etc. Also stripers, largemouth, spotted bass, etc in fresh water.
I've been using PowerPro for 4 years and it has NEVER let me down. Power Pro isn't flat like most braided lines, so it won't bite into your spool. You can also untangle the worst birds nest in the world, as well as having fewer tangles. I prefer a Stradic 4000 reel, backed with 15# Ande monofilament. Then I spool on 150 yards of 10# (supposedly 2# diameter) Power Pro. Use a uni-knot splice. Then I tie on about a 3 foot fluorocarbon leader. The actual breaking strength of 10# Power Pro is about 18#, so you can use up to 17# fluorocarbon leader. The Power Pro is expensive, but will easily last you all season.
I use fluorocarbon lines for leader when I'm messing around. For serious fishing I use an actual fluoro leader material. Ande has finally come out with their own fluoro leader, on 50 yard spools instead of 25, and it is less expensive than buying the 25 yard spools. The fluoro leader versus line is stiffer and seems to be more abrasion resistant.
I have used this setup to catch snook up to 20 pounds in South Florida. Stripers and Blue Fish up to 20 pounds on Cape Code. Largemouth, smallmouth, snapper, flounder, sheepshead, redfish, you name it. Caught fluke in 50 feet of water off Martha's vineyard and got to the bottom twice as fast as my brother using monofilament.
Is it worth tying the extra knot? I guarantee, you will get 5 times as many strikes with smart species, and 2-3 times as many with the dumber ones.
wishin' I was fishin'
inshore
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