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| ive been sad to see lake winnebagos fish kill after a tournement.. waleyes hooked bad and released. its bad enough they dont fish for fun..they fish for money. killing fish the working man catches to eat and for fun !!!  |
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| How about those damn sheepheads tournaments too?!?!  |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Heck, i agree so lets all the tournament fisherman go out this weekend both days and fish for fun. Please keep your limit both days with 4 guys in the boat. Bring them over and we will have a fish fry. I don't know if we will have enough to eat, so can some of you please go back out and get a second limit?
PS Don't let any of the damn tournament guys see where you are catching them because you know they will just kill 2 for every 10 they catch and weigh-in. And that is such a waste???? We certainly don't need that trash out there.
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Location: shawano,WI | And to add to this.I am a tournament fisherman as well as a regular fisherman.You can come look in my freezer and wont find a fish in it.But the people I saw out at calumet county landing 2 weeks ago make me sick.A Guy his wife and young daughter came in when I did with 15 little walleyes in a five gallon pail.Then a truck pulled up and a guy came out with a can of gas and the lady and little girl got out of the boat with the fish and got in the truck and the other guy got in the boat and away they went.Out for some more.Great way to teach your kids and take advantage of a great fishery.So dont bash the tournament fisherman.Oh and I didnt have any fish in my livewell that day, I guess the other guy caught mine too. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Stacker,
AMEN!!
Behr,
What? try that again, I read your post twice and still don't know what the heck you are saying. I AM pretty sure you wantd to blast tournament anglers, but you missed, badly. Back to the Range, sir! |
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Location: Niagara Falls New York | Town A Ment ...... How Do You Spell That?????? Enough Said!!!!! |
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Location: Wind lake, Wi | I dont get when guys blast tournament fishermen/women and are afraid to show their real name. If you don't have anything good to say then you might want to check out some other site. And btw the WALEYE that don't survive go to food pantrys that non working people can't afford to fish. |
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Location: Neenah, WI | Oh ya behr,
You've really got your finger on the pulse of the entire situation. As a tournament fisherman, I'm proud to be associated with organizations that:
Contribute to habitat restoration and research.
Provide fishing opportunities for disadvantaged folks
Do charitable work for outfits like MDA, Cerebral Palsey, Cystic
Fibrosis and many others.
Volunteer our time for kids fishing events.
Provide unreleasable fish to Vets, nursing homes and food pantries.
Yup, we're a pretty mean spirited and mercenary bunch. I wouldn't have it any other way. Oh, one more thing: We do fish for fun. If we can find no joy in what we do in life we should find something else.
Perhaps you should........Take a hike.
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Location: Port Washington, wisconsin | Behr(name unknown of course) It's pretty common knowledge the return rate of fish caught by tournament anglers is in the 95 plus percent range. Those are stats you can look up. So, lets take the same number of weekend anglers looking for a meal for their family. Say... 100 boats, 2, maybe 3 people in each boat. What do you think would be the return rate on those fish caught by those 300 people? I venture to say, way below what tournaments return. In fact, I bet none of the fish get returned. I think maybe all the tournament guys, club guys,should maybe consider stopping all the activities we do to support the system as mentioned above. Do you think the weekend anglers would support and nourish the system for the rest of the public. I doubt it. |
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Location: Germantown and Land O Lakes, WI | I think we've been down this path before.....Anti guys are'nt going to change Tourny Guys opinions any more than Tourny guys are going to change Anti's opinions.
95% was hardly the release rate at the Merc Nationals (63%), but that's water under the Winnecone Bridge now. |
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| I wish the walleyes bit as readily as you guys do. behr got exactly what he was looking for....a reaction. Be smart enough to ignore his type, and they eventually get bored and go back to downloading porn. |
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Location: Rhinelander | AHHH, what's life without some controversy? I think the descriptions posted of the Tournament Angler's activities, practices, and beliefs were worth reading, and the conversation has remained civil for the most part.  |
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Location: Watertown, SD | xxl - 7/9/2004 8:32 AM
I wish the walleyes bit as readily as you guys do. behr got exactly what he was looking for....a reaction. Be smart enough to ignore his type, and they eventually get bored and go back to downloading porn.
If statements like Behr's go unrefuted, they eventually become true. It's no skin off my nose to state publicly why he's wrong, even if I have to do it 50 times a year. The last thing I want is some impressionable person who knows nothing about tournament fishing stumbling into his uncorrected post and thinking that he's right. |
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| I don't understand why anyone would be bashing people who fishe tournaments? If anything,feel sorry for them! Look what they have to live with......They can't tell their friends where the fish are,or what they are biting on,they have to pay money to even go fishing,and they don't get to keep their catch ,they have stress beyond belief instead of relaxation time,they can't have a cold beer until they get home,they spend way too much money on baits and boats,they have to leave their families home alone, pay to sleep in cheap motels,buy launching stickers all over the country,take time to teach the average people technechs without getting paid a good teahers salary,These are only some of the things these poor guys indure,I personally support them,and pitty them.....hafe |
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Location: Germantown and Land O Lakes, WI | I see you pitty them 3x as much as the normal guy |
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| Pitty? Get real. I'm doing axactly what I wan't to be doing. I go fishing all the time. I keep fish when I want except during tourney weekends. I pay the same for my baits as everyone else. Last time I checked $30,000 boat cost $30,000 no matter who's paying for it. Wait a minute, I guess there are tourney guys that can get them for cheeper than that. If you feel fishing needs to be relaxing than good for you. I go fishing because it's fun. Tourney days just add excitement to the experience. If I'm looking to relaxe I'll lay on the couch or something. I love competition. It stirs something in me. The adrenaline rush I get before the launch of a tourney really gets me going. The same rush I would get while playing sports growing up and through my mid 20's. If anything you can call me selfish because I go fishing for me not for whatever reason Joe blow on some internet message board says I should.
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Now Paul has ideas that point out what's to like about tournament fishing!
Behr, your opinion is anti-tournament because those of us who participate do kill fish in it's pursuit. Ok, this is the truth and you don't like it. Nothing hard to understand here.
But want to know if you think the system has enough walleyes in it to withstand all the fish killed - by tournaments - currently being held? |
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| I may be wrong but I think he was being sarcastic. |
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Location: Appleton wi | You guys shouldnt make such a big deal about one persons comment.That person only wanted to piss a few poeple off.Most non tourny fisherman will never understand what it takes to compete at that level ,the intensity and the relentless drive to do well and pursuit . They also probally have no idea about how many fish we catch and release during prefishing that are there for them to catch. Do you really think average joe catches 350+ walleyes a year ?I dont think so perhaps maybe in the lifetime!
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| He would have really freaked out 3 years ago at Port Clinton, The Ohio DNR didn't want any tournament fish released...over 4,000 pounds of fillets went to the local soup kitchens, man you should have seen the fish! I really think if there was any chance of hurting the population on Winnebago, maybe the DNR would raise the size limit, lower the creel limit, etc to control the take. Fact is, so far this year I have caught over 300 eyes and kept exactly 5. I think that's pretty typical of tourney fisherman, we respect the fish and the fishery far more than the average weekend angler who is fishing for food. |
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Location: Menasha, WI | To emphasize your point Rob, I'm not a tournament angler and I've kept a great deal more than 5  I did fish in one tournament and we successfully released the only fish caught |
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Location: Theresa, NY | I am not taking sides...I too have fished tournaments...have taken fish home for a meal etc. I believe that tournament fisherman are right that over 95 percent of their catches are released alive and more than likely to not loose as many fish as are taken by over fishing the limit...muotiple trips out etc...enough said on that...however.....I recently read an article in an issue of in-fisherman in a dr's office that concerned a test that was done on the survivablity of netted fish and the possible damage that can be done to a fish who appears to be fine when released but may die in the next 10 days due to damage done by their bodies rubbing on certain kinds of nets...the rubber nets i believe were the best except for no net at all.
Wish I could quote the issue date but you know how old these issues in the drs office are....I believe the test was done on crappier...... just food for thought. |
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| In regards to tournament survival rates- I'm happy to report we had a zero percent survival rate in the sheephead tournament this past weekend. My wife and I caught close to 300 pounds of sheephead. My arms are still tired. I had to jump in after another rod this year - got the fish too! |
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Location: Upper Sandusky Ohio | Talk about catching a double limit!!!! The original poster here caught more fish with this troll than the whole P.W.T. field will this season |
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