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| Why when I go to get on plane my alarm goes off and shuts the motor down. I was told by the dealer the water pump is shot. Well, after replacing the water pump and the impellar 3 times the dam alarm is still going off. Now 50% of the time when I go to take off the alarm is still going off and shutting me down. What gives?????????  |
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| Take it to a dealer who has the equipment to test the motor, it should be easy to track. Where are you from, maybe I can reconmmend someone for you. |
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | I had a similar problem.... Check to make sure ALL of the fittings on your gas line are tight. Start at the pick-up from the tank and continue all the way up. Do you have a "t" in the main gas line for a kicker? If so, make sure it has a shut-off that is working properly.
If that doesn't work, call up a dealer and schedule a time where they can hook up the computer to your motor for a quick diagnostic. It should only take them a few minutes to see what alarms have been triggered. |
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Location: Brillion, Wi | Had the same kind of problem with my 225, had it in a couple times and it would not do it in the tank at the dealer, ended up being the sensor was bad. Dealer did not think it was the sensor, but after we had to use the kicker to go 18 miles to get back to the landing, I made him change the 2 that kept going off. No problems after that. I think the sensors were like $118 a piece. Hope this helps. |
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| I think Google Eye is right on the money. I had both Throttle Position Sensors go bad this spring on my 225 Opti. I got the same indications that you are getting. If I recall, the shop charged me the price of the 2 sensors (cost about what GE said) plus 1 hour for computer diagnostics and 1 hour for sensor replacement. A little over $400 total.
As was previously mentioned, any shop with the proper diagnostic equipment can hook it up and tell you exactly what is wrong with the engine.
Tim "Toolman" Joseph
Edited by Toolman 8/30/2004 2:32 PM
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Just like the back yard auto mechanic has passed, so is the back yard outboard mechanic. The Opti-max is not a ask on the internet and go get the part to fix it. Give us a call, we do diagnostic work every day, and get it right.
Ask for Ben and tell him where you heard this from. He will take good care of you. Your not far away.
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| Visit Fort Fremont MaRINE, or try Norton's DryDock in Princeton. Both have the proper diagnostic equipment and trained technicians to figure this out. |
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Location: Brillion, Wi | Hey stacker, for your info. I had it at a dealer with the proper diagnostic equipment. It did not tell us the sensor was bad, dealer called merc and merc said it was the throttle cam and rollers. Replaced those 2 parts still the same thing. The technician called another dealer and he suggested to change the sensors,not saying I was an outboard mechanic, just trying to help the guy out and tell him the diagnostic equipment did not tell us the real problem! |
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Location: Brillion, Wi | Rick let us know what the problem was when you get it fixed. Hopefully it doesn"t get to exspensive. |
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| I PLAN ON TAKING IT IN HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK. THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR INSIGHT. I WILL POST WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN I FIND OUT. RICK |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Hey google-eye, not to start fights but is there a burr in your shorts? I did not say anything about your problems or point a finger in your direction at all. Just stated that like the computers on our cars the opti is no tinkerers motor. And told him where to get good service, you know that is hard to find these days. Have a great day!! |
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| Stacker,
Easy there big guy. I think what Google eye was trying to convey was that Optis exhibit certain symptoms when certain parts go bad (like a TPS).
In my previous post when I said <"any shop with the proper diagnostic equipment can hook it up and tell you exactly what is wrong with the engine."> I should have added "with the properly trained personnel."
Tim "Toolman" Joseph
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Tim, This is why I usually don't answer questions on the site, stick strictly to fishing subjects only. I was always taught that people do things for a living and you do another. Let them do there job and let me do mine. That is what they are best at, and this is what I am best at. Typing is really hard to get your full point across and I hope I got mine across with out sounding like a know it all. |
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| Stacker,
Benefiting from the collective knowledge of the group is what makes these sites worth having. Without that i-net fishing sites are nothing. I can call my buddies on the cell phone if I want to know how the fishing is on my home waters. For other waters, equipment, etc., it's nice to be able to fall back on people who have some experience with something I don't know much about.
Keep giving good info and it will come full circle someday.
Tim "Toolman" Joseph
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Location: Brillion, Wi | Stacker, I was just pointing out that if it only does it 50% of the time like mine did, maybe it would not show up on the diagnostic equip. when testing it unless the sensor would go off when hooked up. Not sure if this is the case, just trying to save some headaches for him. Sorry! |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | The one thing you guys do need to know about a opti-max motor is that it is driven by a computer. This means that when a fault, or a sensor does not operate correctly, ocurres, the computer records this fault. When hooking up a diagnostic tool to the computer it tells all. It says what the average rpm range the motor has been running, the temps, over revs, hours, FAULTS, it tells all. It does not have to DO IT while it is attached to the diagnostic equipment. The one thing I will state is that if it is a 1999 or earlier model the computers were a little different and did not record every fault. We have had this pop up more than one time in the past. |
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Location: Brillion, Wi | Stacker, Yes mine was 99 when this happened, yes it did show the faults on the sensors, just wondering if this would mean that the sensors are bad or how do you tell if they are bad. Thanks in advance. |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Google eye, if there was a fault in the computer that showed a sensor was the cause of it, it is bad. That would be the place to start. BUT, there is also a line of tests to perform to quantify that the sensor is indeed the culprit of the fault, and not a bad part before the sensor. Some times a sensor gets a bad rap, gets replaced, and still, the same darn thing is wrong. This is where a quality service shop is worth its weight in gold. |
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| There was a gasket around the water pump when you detach the portion of the lower unit that was shot, therefore not allowing the correct amount of water to be suctioned in. Thats what was making the alarm go off!! About a 20 dollar repair. |
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Location: Menominee MI, In Da UP Eh? | Hmmmm.....
Rick, Glad the repair was a painless one and it was done now so you can spend the whole season having fun!
As to the rest of the debate, can I add two cents?
We all know there are good sites and iffy sites on the internet for information.
While I too agree that, for the most part the back yard mechanic is going the way of the carrier pigeon, there are still a few guys out there with some real savy with motors. Ya gotta try to remember that there are a lot of older motors still out there.
And there are a lot of problems, even with todays Uber techno gorillas that a guy with an ounce of horse sense can fix, and do it right. It does not take a diagnostics computer to replace a spun hub etc...
The best part about using a site like this is that a guy with a problem can gain insight from others with similar problems, or be helped to a good repair facility, as well as be steered away from a bum deal.
But then I think we all, already knew that..........just some fancy thinkin on my behalf.......
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| Wow, This makes me so happy I bought
a good old reliable 2-stroke carbed motor.
Simple is always better. |
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135 OPTIMAX QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!