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| I HAVE BEEN FISHING W/ POWER PRO LINE FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS AND LIKE WHAT IT CAN DO WITH BITE DETECTION AND STRENGTH. I HAVE A PFLUEGER SPINNING REEL (#4730) AND A FENWICK ROD. I USE 10 LB. TEST (2 LB DIAMETER) AND SEEM TO HAVE A RECURRING PROBLEM. WHEN I CAST MY MAIN LINE COMES OFF THE SPOOL FINE, BUT ONCE IN A WHILE THERE IS A LARGE LOOP THAT APPEARS. I PULL LINE OFF THE REEL UNTIL THE LOOP IS OFF THE REEL. I GO TO LIGHTLY PULL THE LOOP OUT AND THE LINE BREAKS!! I LOSE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF LINE TO THE POINT OF NEEDING TO BUY ANOTHER SPOOL. I HAVE BEEN CAREFUL NOT TO OVERSPOOL MY REEL. HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED THIS SIMILAR PROBLEM? THIS HAS HAPPENED 3 TIMES SINCE THE SPRING AND THAT LINE ISN'T CHEAP. SOMEONE TOLD ME TRY USING A LARGER DIAMETER LINE, BUT BEFORE I BUY MORE LINE WITH THE SAME AFFECT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK FOR OPINIONS.GOOD FISHING--THE FLY MAN |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | I use the same line and I am NOT experiencing your problem. Wish I had a suggestion.............. but I have no ideas |
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Location: Menasha, WI | I have the same problem occasionally. I haven't found a way to prevent it from happening, but can suggest a way to avoid breaking the line. Being as careful as you can to avoid nicking the line, use the sharp end of a hook to wedge inside the knot and gently lossen it up. I know with mono you can often just give the line a little pull and the knot will come out, with Power Pro the knot will tighten. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Your getting line twist somehow. I use power line on all my rods and only get that problem when casting cranks at wingdams when the crank is spinning on the casts. That only happens once in a while. When is dose, I simply take a little time and get the loop out and let out line in the current and let it untwist and the problem goes away. Dont pull on the knot,it will only get tighter untill it breaks.
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| YOUR INSIGHTS HAVE BEEN GOOD, BUT I AM STILL CONFUSED ON WHY I HAVE THIS PROBLEM ESPECIALLY SINCE I USE A BALL BEARING SWIVEL ON MY FLY RIG TO PREVENT THE LINE FROM TWISTING. AND SINCE POWER PRO HAS A ADVERTISED ZERO MEMORY, THIS PROBLEM MAKES ITSELF MORE COMPLICATED. I HAVE A FELLING SOMEHOW IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW I SPOOL IT ON THE REEL. ALL I DO IS TAKE THE LINE OUT OF THE BOX AND SET THE SPOOL ON THE GROUND. ONCE I SECURE MY LINE ON THE REEL. I REEL UNTIL THE LINE IS AT THE APPROPIATE LENGTH ON THE SPOOL. I USE MODERATE PRESSURE SO THE LINE IS FAIRLY TIGHT ON THE REEL AND NOT TIGHT. DOES ANYONE SEE ANYTHING STANDING OUT AS A NO NO. AS A SIDENOTE THIS REEL IN PRACTICALLY NEW, BUT WAS A FLOOR MODEL. REEL SEEMS FLAWLESS, BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG. THANKS TO THE PRIOR ENTRIES FOR YOUR HELP. KEEP OPINIONS COMING. ALL HELPS---GOOD FISHING--- THE FLY MAN |
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Location: Milw, WI | Used power pro for the first time yesterday......
Showed it to guys at the MWC and they agreed that some thing was wrong.
Nightmare I got a bad spool , fraying and line twist galore.
Cut it and fuzzy opening ends.
Screaming through the guides as you reel it in.
It is flat, so flat you can barly see it one way, not good.
Nothing like the little sample on the box.
Cut that no fraying, and it is round.
Got a loop like you are talking about, broke on the next cast, at that point.
Did not get to try and fix it.
E-mailed PP and explained......
New spool is on its way.
8lb moss green was what I bought.
Murhpy gets me again.
Not bad mouthing the stuff, just what happened. |
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| I WILL TRY E-MAILING PP ALSO. I AGREE WITH YOU, THE LINE IS REALLY FLAT, NOT ROUND AS IT SHOULD BE. THAT COULD BE THE PROBLEM AND OBVIOUS LINE TWISTS WITH THE LOOP OF LINE. I WILL VENT TO THE THEM. I AM GUESSING THEIR E-MAIL IS WWW. POWERPRO.COM BUT IF IT IS NOT COULD YOU WRITE BACK RICHFISH WITH THE CORRECT ADDRESS. ---GOOD FISHING--THANKS FOR THE HELP--THE FLY MAN |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | I too had problems with Power Pro line. In fact, I had some that was new on the spool that did the same things you described. I fixed it by switching to Fireline and I've yet to have any problems with Fireline.
BTW.....we enjoy your posts Flyman, but they would be a bit easier on the eyes if they weren't all in CAPS. Typing in Caps generally suggests that you are yelling at or about something. Keep the posts coming.
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| Sorry about the all caps at work I am used to typing in all caps, the only thing to yell about today in caps is the weather. It will be interesting to see what the white bass do after this cold front and rain and see if mr. walleye starts to heat up. fingers crossed---THE FLY MAN--- |
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Location: Milw, WI | In the Engineering field / Drafting we were trained ( from birth it seams like) to write in caps. only.
That way lettering is always readable and never mis-read.
I find it hard to not do it my self.
Your right on , thats their world wide wait addy.
Edited by Richfish 10/15/2004 3:59 PM
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Location: Berlin | The only thing I can tell you is that you have to have the spool laid on the ground right. There is only one right side that can be up. The line coming off the spool has to be revolving in the same direction as your reel or it will twist. I have been using PP ever since it came out and I love it. Ever since Berkley fixed Fireline it has been good to me also. One side note, buy either on Ebay for half the cost. Hope that helps.
Edited by Rich S 10/19/2004 12:11 PM
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Rich,
Slap me if I'm wrong but I do not think that PP has memory like mono therefore the issue of line coming off the spool is a mute issue. Please explain if this is not correct? |
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Location: Milw, WI | I do not think memory is the ?.
It is the twist that is put in to the line if you put it on wrong. |
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Location: Berlin | I have never had the problem with PP spooling off my reel. I do however get it twisted after a while of casting cranks or jigging with a minnow or leech. The more the line twists the weaker it becomes. My buddy John has the right idea which is to unwind it. The way I do it is to tie on a small barrel swivel or even a real small duo-loc snap. Let out a bunch of line and pump the rod. This will untwist the line. This also works with mono. I am not saying this is his problem but nothing good can come from twisted line. One other thing, there is not a line out there that has zero memory if it is twisted bad enough. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Rich,
You and I may have different opinions on this one or we are using different terminology in our descriptions. Power Pro uses braided Spectra Fiber. It's impossible to have reel memory with any braided line. A characteristic of reel memory is when you open your bail and the line "flies off" the reel. This type of memory just isn’t possible with braided lines.
With mono, if you bought a large spool, the monofilament line would "remember" the diameter of the larger spool and make it interesting when transferring the line to a smaller spool, especially if you put it on opposite of how it went on the original spool.
If you are referring to the fact that when you have massive line twist, the line wants to “unwind” if given the chance…………… this is called just that…………… line twist. Probably just a semantics thing?
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Location: Berlin | Yes, after re-reading my post you are correct. I was reffering to the side effects of line twist instead of memory. I don't believe the he was having the line come off his reel in the same matter mono does. I think the problems he is having all has to do with line twist.
My question is when are you, Shep and I going fishing. After reading last winters article you wrote I am sure you have a soft water spot available! |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Rich,
Any time any place!!!
For me, my locations of choice for October and November until freeze-up will be Bay de Noc, Erie and hopefully a trip to Superior area. WF will be posting an article soon that I just wrote explaining my choices. Once the water freezes on the Great Lakes I switch to rivers until they freeze. I like the De Pere area, Mississippi and the Rock. On good years, the rivers do not freeze or they freeze and open again in short order. When a hard, cold winter causes all river water to freeze in our area I start looking south. Shep and I have a tentative plan to revisit Shelbyville Il. in December or January.
You're welcome to join me in an annual trip to Red Wing over New Year weekend. Because of the Nuke plant, that water never freezes and Everett's Resort keeps their landings open.
Now that Shep is living about 200 yards from the Winneconne bridge, I'll assume that he will have interesting reports for us from that area. But then again, it'll be very difficult to get him away from his great late fall muskie fishing. He's wired!! I'm hoping (hint, hint...Shep?) that he'll share a seat in his boat when he goes after those green fish.
Tyee has also promised to show me his late fall early winter techniques on the Wolf (another blatant attempt at hinting).
So many places and so little time for those looking for open water. This is the best time of the year for getting that HOG.
Ice is for mixed drinks!!
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Location: OSHKOSH, WI | Just to let everyone out there who was debating about my powerpro struggles. I figured out I needed to use a heavier line, the 2lb diameter was not cutting it (no pun intended). I also had to clean the top part of my reel, dirt from the reel can build up and effect your cast as well the overall quality of the reel. Thanks everyone who gave me insight into spectra fiber line and gave me suggestions. Good Fishing--THE FLY MAN |
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Location: Milw, WI | Power pro comes through.
Got my replacement spoll and it is much better than the spool I had bought.
Much smoother and is not fraying when cut.
Just letting you guys know they followed through. |
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