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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Just got back from fishing the Genoa area for a few days. 40-50 fish days are the norm. Dragging ringworms and 3-way rigging with Dave's KABOOM shiners up river worked for us. We caught more and bigger fish using the KABOOM shiners trolling up river than we did while jigging down river. 22-25' of water worked best for us.
I sure wish people would learn to stay out of those deep sauger holes. Most of those little fish they are catching end up floating down river later because of the air bladder issue.
Shallow sand flats were also working very early in the morning for those willing to be on the water before the sun came up.
Also observed some doing well anchoring and working ringworms in front of wing dams. We would have tried this if there wasn't a long line of boats waiting to get in there. We chose to stay out of the way for others. Too many spots and not enough time. |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | Dennis,
Give me a call when you're comming up to our neck of the woods again. I'd be glad to relay any info I may have on the bite, or maybe even hook up for a day on the water (my boat or yours).
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Thanks Marshall.
Please email me your cell. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | A big group of us are going up this weekend for our annual hutch`s weekend. Sounds like it is going to be fun. Going up to handline and jig some of my areas downriver. Daves shinners have always done well for me there. I will never understand why people want to fish that deeper water to kill fish. If your going to go to meat hunt,than keep them. The eagles can only eat so much. |
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| John, just so you know.....I expect you to put us on 100 fish days  See ya soon, bud. |
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| i agree jay! if john cant do it KABOOM! hahahaahah |
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Location: Chicago IL. | HAHAHA Man the pressure you guys are putting on me. Hutch is makeing me a new secret pattern. It will be known to only the select few there. Did some work with markers on the IL and it was deadly when the crank bite was on. Cleotus knows what it is but is sworn to keep it quiet. So guys bring a 3 way rod,trust me. |
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| yes! i remember it john! i know it will work up there! cant wait to try it! |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Me also. Thats why i`m bringing the handlines up with me!!!! |
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| I threw that ??????? out there and POOOM!  |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Yea too bad the crank bite died this fall. But all our upgraded fish came on it if you waited them out. |
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| maybe a big fish wager this weekend john? hehehh |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Oh boy here we go again. how much??? |
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| dont know yet john. have to see what my partners say. |
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| Was up by Hutch last weekend. Got a look at your ~KILLER~ lure as well as the
29 new additions to his crankbait color combinations. If that lure doesn`t kick
butt on the Illinois I don`t know what will. Once the word gets out Hutch will be buried in crank orders. I guarantee you there will be more than a few disappointed
guys come MWC time that waited to get their orders in. He was hoping to do some
testing last weekend but he didn`t have the clear coating finished so we had to settle for catching our fish the old fashioned way. I even had a couple of 3-way rods in the truck.
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| well, did you guys hammer them. lets see some photos. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | The river came up and got grassy, so cranks were out. Setteled on jigging and had fun with some saugers. No pics. Looks like a cold snap is comming so it will be tough with the ramps.  |
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| Hey John- you have to loose that mindset about jigging. Just think of it as vertical
stolling ot trolling. After all the boats moving.
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Location: Chicago IL. | Yea I know Tom, but I like trolling with motors that have pistons!!! |
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| trolling - lazy mans fishing,to be good you must be able to jig. |
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| trolling - lazy mans fishing,to be good you must be able to jig.
I disagree, as long as there are tourneys on the Great Lakes, trolling will be a staple of fishing. and ya better get good at it also, to be "Good". |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Anyone who says trolling is lazy has no clue how to do it right. Especially on rivers. We're busier and more active while trolling the river than if we were trolling. |
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Location: LaCrosse, WI | I will second what Dennis said. I grew up fishing the Mississippi and trolling it can be as much or more work than jigging. I will never quit trolling as it's often the most effective way to cover water and entice those big river eyes into smacking your bait.
On the Miss, I cast Willow Cats at wing dams when I don't have the ambition to troll. It's still a lot of work, but turning on the trolling motor or anchoring just doesn't seem to be as much work as running a kicker, putting out boards, selecting baits, setting rods, clearing lines, watching the GPS and sonar, yelling at your partner (optional) and all the other "Lazy" stuff that goes with trolling. |
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| i have seen mannerino jig and all i can say is he is the MASTER! heheeh with all the clothes he had on his jigging motion was kinda stiff but he got the job done! hehheh |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Master???? Thats funny. It was easy with the right baits. Also, trolling a river
( leadcore,poleineing,handlineing, 3 ways, longlineing) is a ton of work if you want to do it right. |
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| so what was the right baits. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Jigs and ringworms worked best snap jigging. |
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| thats no secret,what were the hot colors? |
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Location: Chicago IL. | red/white,watermelon,orange/brown seemed to work best with a clown jig. |
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| John, some people just need to get off the couch and go fishing, dont ya think? |
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| get out there and breath the fresh air! hehehheh leadcore is hard work if your partner decides to dump some waste in the water and it goes straight down the line to the lure mannerino! hehehhe |
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Location: Chicago IL. | HAHAHA Better you than me!!!!! |
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| thanks john,as far as you gayman,isnt this web site for info?not the sly remarks you offer. i hope you humor yourself because nobody here is laughing! |
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| I think someone may have had one to many pieces of cake here. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | hahaha. No more cake for you. |
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| iowan, sit back and breath......take the edge off........ |
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| Who wants CAKE? besides Iowan.....hehehe
Oh, Iowan, good sly remark....did you think of that one on your own? Or did someone spoon feed ya, like your fishing?Ohhh hoooo hooo heeee heeee haaaa haaaa |
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| who was begging john to put you on fish. |
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| i fished with jayman last weekend and we our all friends iowan. it was a joke about asking john to put us on fish. no need to call people names when you dont know what the story is. take it easy dude. life is to short. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Lets all take it easy a minute. Like guido said,we all fished together last weekend and we had some fun between us. Iowan I dont mind shareing info with you or anybody else as long as it dont have anything to do with my tourneys. Once a year we all get together for a weekend of FUN fishing. (wich gets harder and harder each year). Sounds like you got caught in the middle of it. Lets all play nice now. |
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| Begging? I was clearly stating my expectations, Iowan. As Guido mentioned we are all good friends and we we're having a little fun. Knowing I'd get some boat time with John was only to put the pressure on him. oooh hoo look at him cook.
BTW, I tell most everyone to get off the couch and go fish, so don't take it personnel. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Carefull Jayman The" mystic" came thru on sunday with the saugers.( now if I can only catch em like that on the IL) BUT YOU got the greenie`s. I think I found what we were looking for out on the river. |
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| Come one, come all, stop and listen you don't want to miss 'em he's realistic thee amazing MYSTIC! hehehe |
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Location: Chicago IL. | HAHAHAHAHA |
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Location: Orland Park, IL | Yep, the mississippi mystic. |
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| mystic? more like miss it! hahaahhah |
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Location: Chicago IL. | I dont know guido. You have been getting spanked so much on the rivers from the mystic ,,,I think your starting to like it. Are you into that tie me up stuff too????  |
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| uuh i think you got spanked saturday misstic! hahahaha good thing i didnt fish with you guys sunday! it would have been a 2 day spanking! ouch!!!!!! heheheheh we need to get out on 14 sometime john. |
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| 14? Errrrr When? |
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Location: Chicago IL. | I wish I had the time Jayman. Between work,doctors and a vacation with the wife,, it leaves 1 weekend before tourneys start on March 4th, and there is 3 of them in March. So it dont look good.
Guido... You guys had 9 fish and we had 5,but you had 1 more in the boat and fished longer. I guess thats a spanking if you say so. No more cake for you either!!!!!!!! |
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| John, think later.....much later.
I'll drag you kicking and screaming all the way if need be. Will get somthing figured out. Talk to ya soon. |
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| i cant help it you guys got cold mannerino! start bass fishing if you cant take it! hehehehh |
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| He didn't get cold guido, he just wanted extra CAKE. RRR Long as I'm looking at getting verbally beaten up here. Who had to take the DOLL out of their bedroom last year. Ohhhhhhhhhhh am I mean or what. Ya know jayman if ya wanna fish soft water again all ya gotta do is call. Heck I might even let ya use one of my HOOO-DADDY lues. meeeeeeeeeee |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Oh No Hutch. Dont say nothing about the hooo-daddy`s!!!!!!! Forgot about the doll looking at you . Sweet dreams.hahaha.
Jayman, We will get you out there on 14,dont worry. |
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| Hoo Daddy knockin' on my jig?
Hutch, thanks again, when I get over that way I'll be sure to give you a shout. WHO WANTS CAKE? |
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| dont mention that doll hutch! haahahahha it must have taken a walk in the woods because it was gone this year! hehhe someone mention cake? |
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| On a seriouser note. Today I had to go to Lacrosse to the printers. Ya know after you guys all left winter came around finally. Back waters that were ice free now have about 3 to 3 1\2 inches of ice. As I drove by the Genoa dam there were two guys standing on the ice just below the float. They walk across the main channel. But it was ok cause they had a SMALL john boat between them. There's open water below the dam, then there is about 30 feet of slush ice then solid ice. one guy was standing about 10 or 20 feet from the slush. The other guy was back a ways but the boat was probably a 100 or so feet away from either guy. Ya know I love to chase the eyes just about as much as anybody that walks this earth. But these 2 guys must have REALLY BEEN PISSED OFF at them fish. Sure am glad I never did anything like that when I was younger. Makes me wonder how in the heck I'm still breathing. Had one buddy push his small boat off the ice at the boat landing and fish south and did very well. The king of cake, Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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Location: Chicago IL. | It`s beyond me that anybody would risk his life like that for a fish!!!!! ( I dont know,,,mabey they ate too much cake. )Hutch I dont know about you being the king of cake, but your a master pie maker!!!!!!!! |
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| no way would i go out on that river on ice. those guys must have been drunk or crazy. no fish is worth your life. and yes hutch! i will take a piece of cake! hehehehe |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | I lived on the Mississippi River (literally our summer house was on the banks of the river) for the first 20+ years of my life... Over that time I had at least four friends and acquaintances who drowned in the winter after falling through the ice on the river, there are too many variables. For a while I lived in a house on the Fox River in Algonquin, IL a mile north of the Algonquin Dam. Every winter a few snowmobiles would fall through right across the river from my backyard... Had two volunteer firemen on either side of me... They kept one of the rescue machines (snowmobile like thing with rubber pontoons) in one neighbors garage (an extension) because it was such a treacherous area. The ice was never stable on the east bank because of a high set of hills and numerous springs in that area.
Ice and rivers do mot mix well for safety unles you are talking about the Acrtic! |
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Location: Appleton wi | Greg its funny how the same tragic stuff happens up here on bago and the wolf river every year and its usually with the snowmobile guys that arnt familiar with the ice and open water areas! maybe i'm way off base here but all this cake and doll talk makes me thinking of you know ummm..........oooters! |
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| Did someone say cake? |
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| i like munchie cake! |
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| Say, that's a mighty fine cake you got there...... |
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