Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure
sworrall
Posted 3/6/2007 2:53 PM (#52155)
Subject: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
Beware if you have a boat, truck, or even trolling motor for sale; the internet is alive with scammers trying to convince you they are real buyers...an adventure in receiving a $5000.00 check from California and England.


http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/article.asp?aid=1166


All I wanted was to get this guy to mail me a check. Anyone know how much that stamp cost?

AHHH, never mind, found it. It cost the guy alittle less than a buck to send that letter.


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WalleyeFIRST
Posted 3/6/2007 3:21 PM (#52156 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Yes, very nice. I like where it says:

"Two signature require for amount over $50,000"

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Hogslammer
Posted 3/6/2007 6:46 PM (#52162 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


Steve, Very interesting check. I work for a bank and don't think that there are too many banks out there that hand print their cashiers checks. Plus they imprint the lettered dollar amount with an encoding machine. Looks like the guy didn't even have the sense to use a typewritter. Too funny! What did he want you to do? Send a cashiers check back for part of the amount?
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hgmeyer
Posted 3/7/2007 12:08 AM (#52170 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Location: Elgin, Illinois
Steve.... Uhhh after seeing the check in question... I will up the "bet"... If that check is good I'll buy ten lunches for two, any where on the North America continent, air fare and overnight accomodations included against your one happy meal we have to share...
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hgmeyer
Posted 3/7/2007 12:22 AM (#52171 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Location: Elgin, Illinois
Folks... if old Worral falls for this bet I am at least a 1/2 of a cheesburger, freis and a coke ahead in life.... LOL
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Shep
Posted 3/7/2007 7:48 AM (#52174 - in reply to #52171)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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I think you ought to have some fun. Tell him you cashed the check, and you will not send the difference back. Tell him you'll give the shipper the cash when they show up to collect the motor. Then, sit back and watch what happens! hehehe
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young
Posted 3/7/2007 11:39 AM (#52182 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


cash it and then give them nothing...scam the scammer
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sworrall
Posted 3/7/2007 12:05 PM (#52183 - in reply to #52182)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
HG,

My entire objective was to get a couple of the scam artists to send me fake checks. I bet there isn't a bank on the planet that would cash this thing.
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Viking
Posted 3/7/2007 12:44 PM (#52184 - in reply to #52183)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


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Location: Menasha, WI
If you were to deposit the check, your bank would probably charge you a fee when it comes back ISF/No Account.

I think it's cool that you played this out SW. Every bit of the scammer's time you use, prevents someone else from being bothered Plus it's good to get this kind of scam publicized.
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Sunshine
Posted 3/7/2007 12:54 PM (#52185 - in reply to #52184)
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin
Hey Steve:

Can I have my check back?

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hgmeyer
Posted 3/7/2007 1:20 PM (#52186 - in reply to #52155)
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Location: Elgin, Illinois
Steve you might as well carry that check as a spare tire for your trailer... Good rubber on it... enough for a few thousand miles...
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careful
Posted 3/8/2007 5:44 AM (#52208 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


Something to consider is that the bank may not take your attempt to cash the check so lightly depending on the institution. As we all are well aware, fraud and identity theft is at an all time high. Although I am sure you would be exonerated in the end, you may be subject to a slew of paperwork to defend your innocence. The bank will do just about anything to protect themselves by having proof for the auditors they are doing their due diligence. A hassle perhaps worth avoiding. Just a thought.
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sworrall
Posted 3/8/2007 10:12 AM (#52220 - in reply to #52208)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
I have no intent to try to cash that check. It's going in a frame for my office wall, with another I bet I receive this week. I provided Bernard with a link to the article, and a note letting him know I'm done with the game after yesterday telling him I could not wire the funds because I couldn't verify identity, and I had sent a courier with a cashier's check like the one he sent me. He wasn't happy.
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Mark Komo
Posted 3/8/2007 1:10 PM (#52223 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: Re: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Location: Orland Park, IL
Bank will definately close the account based on the fradulant activity.

Currency exchanges are big here onthe southside?
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Hogslammer
Posted 3/8/2007 5:03 PM (#52231 - in reply to #52220)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


Steve, If it was me I'd call the bank the check is written on, the Union Bank of California, and visit with them on this check. If this is a real bank, they would appreciate knowing what is going on and may be able to save someone else from getting ripped off and just maybe even catch the guy. There is so much of this going on that we can't just laugh it off and turn the other way. We should stand up and put forth the effort to make sure these jerks are brought to justice. Thanks
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sworrall
Posted 3/9/2007 12:32 AM (#52239 - in reply to #52231)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
I talked with the bank a couple days ago. They said, "The information on that check is not valid." Short answer, it's not one of their checks. It can't be cashed, and was probably printed on a computer laser printer. There's one glaring typo that was pointed out earlier, plus the check was hand written; something I've never seen in a Cashier's check, as was pointed out. It's not that bank's worry, plain and simple.

I did get a phone message for the fellow after I informed him I was sending a courier with a check. He responded that he would not accept a check. Hmmmm, wonder why?

I don't think there's a thing I can do to help bust the guy. I'm sure he's using a proxy server for his computer use, and he changed the western Union address I was to send money to twice as I messed with him. About the only thing possible would be to contact the authorities in England and have them try to bust the person who accepts the Western Union payment, which means I'd have to send one. Uh, no.
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hgmeyer
Posted 3/9/2007 8:21 AM (#52242 - in reply to #52155)
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Location: Elgin, Illinois
Western Union MAY want to help and play along with the authorities in England... They don't like this any more than you do...
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sworrall
Posted 3/10/2007 9:07 AM (#52264 - in reply to #52242)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
'Bernard' called my cell and my house using waht sounded like VOI several times trying to get me to conform to his process. I sent him a link to the article, so I suspect he won't be calling me again.
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eye Lunker
Posted 3/10/2007 11:17 AM (#52266 - in reply to #52264)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


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Location: Appleton wi
I think a call to the milwaukee FBI office to let them know this whole story might be the next move !
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walleye express
Posted 3/17/2007 5:43 AM (#52521 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
Hey Steve.

Add this E-mail I got this morning to your collection. This guy don't even ask about a charter but cuts right to the chase. I don't think these clowns even know what a walleye is. Hope Gary Roach don't get offended about him calling me Mr. Walleye.


Dear Mr WALLEYE
I am contacting you individually for a business transaction involving GBP £30 Million and I hope that you will contact me at your earliest convenient for this possible business transaction.
I am the Auditor General, and Chairman, Audit Committee of Bank of Scotland, with your sincere assistant and co-operation,I have determined to work this deal with you if you can do the business.
At the moment,I am constrained to issue more details about this business until your positive response is received.
Please take a moment of your time schedules to read this and send your response or better call me with this mobile number : +44 704 57 06187 for further information concerning this transaction.
I assure you that this deal is worth taking and highly profitable.
Thank you for your time and attention.
Yours truly,
........................
Mr. jim mark,
Auditor General,
Bank Of Scotland Plc.
Tel: +44 704 57 06187
Email: [email protected]
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sworrall
Posted 3/17/2007 4:56 PM (#52538 - in reply to #52521)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure




Location: Rhinelander
An Auditor General with a Yahoo email address.....
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hgmeyer
Posted 3/17/2007 8:59 PM (#52544 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure



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Location: Elgin, Illinois
Yeah, and the guy's Scottish accent came right through...
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jerry b
Posted 6/3/2007 7:29 PM (#56724 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


Hey guys- - - here's another kind soul offering to take my boat off my hands. He only wants $7000 in processing and transportation fees to expedite the tansaction- - - what a nice guy- - - jerr



Hello,

My name is Frank Drachman,A counselor in willow Run High School in Michigan.

Please I am interested in your boat listed at www.walleye.outdoorsfirst.com and I want to know if its still for sale and how much you are offering for it.

Get back to me with some photos so I can look at it.

Regards.

Frank.
[email protected]

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stepman
Posted 7/25/2007 9:44 PM (#59027 - in reply to #52155)
Subject: RE: Scamming The Outboard Sale, An Adventure


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Location: princeton Il.
The Scammers are still at it. I have my boat for sale and am asking $37,000, the following e-mails are what I have recieved so far. I told him I wouldnt send any personal info over the internet because of all the scams but to call me and we can discuss payment and how to deal with the transaction. Bet my phone wont ring.

Hello Mark
Greetings, Everything sounds well and am okay with the prize $35,000 .Concerning payment I have a friend in the state who is ready to issue you a Certified Cashier's check in Usa funds since I don't have the funds in your currency. For convinient and easy transaction, I have a liable shipping agent who'd be responsible for the shipping as soon as you receive payment for the Mumm 30 .I will therefore need the following information of yours to forward to my friend before he sends the check.....
NAME IN FULL........
ADDRESS IN FULL..........
STATE..............
ZIPCODE........
COUNTRY.........
CELL/OFFICE/HOME PHONE NUMBER....... I await your soonest reply
MY REGARDS
Tom

Hello Mark
How are you and your family,ok i am very sorry for the price mistake .i am ok with the $37,000 so all i need now is your detials so that i can forward it my client to send you the payment ok
i hope to hear from you
Tom
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Mark Komo
Posted 7/26/2007 10:56 AM (#59052 - in reply to #52155)
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Location: Orland Park, IL
Yep, I t hink I got he same thing from some guy in quebec, eh.
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