PWT - VHS?
truth be told
Posted 5/13/2007 9:40 PM (#55756)
Subject: PWT - VHS?


Well? Time to shut down fishing tournaments for good?
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jerry
Posted 5/14/2007 12:26 AM (#55762 - in reply to #55756)
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LOL.......I wondered how long it would be before this type of reasoning would get out.

Hmmmmmm.....let's see: there were 120 boats in the PWT at Winneconne.....and there are how many recreational anglers that fish both the Winneconne area and the Great Lakes??? I'd venture a guess of at least 5,000 and that is probably a low end guess.

Finger pointing isn't going to solve anything.....and if I have anything to say about it, it won't happen here....especially by those who sign in as guest. If you have something positive to bring to the front, by all means bring it.
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eye Lunker
Posted 5/14/2007 9:08 AM (#55778 - in reply to #55756)
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I just wish poeple would ingnore comments like"trueth be told" when there unlogged and dont even respond to them!

Edited by eye Lunker 5/14/2007 9:10 AM
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Sunshine
Posted 5/14/2007 9:42 AM (#55787 - in reply to #55778)
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Tournament Fisherpeople are some of the most caring people supporting our resource. Why take a cheap shot at them?

On the contrary, I'd suggest that the DNR show up at every tournament on Bago to help educate and take samples. Take samples of boat livewells, bilge water and hull water. Try using some chemicals (I'll volunteer my boat) to see what kills this nasty bug. Use testing of fish brought in to see just how bad this problem is.

No, I do not buy the argument that tournaments caused this problem. But I'll bet tournament fishermen will be part of the solution or at least try to be.
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Jayman
Posted 5/14/2007 10:43 AM (#55790 - in reply to #55756)
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I love how the anonymous are the most blatant but rarely have any facts to back up their statements.


Anywho.....I don't believe VHS is terribly new, I think it's possibly been around longer than we know. It's just something new under the "microscope". At any rate it's a diligent reminder that we need to "clean" our boats religously and protect the environment to the best of our ability's.

Here's a picture of Chad Carroll, we caught this fish on Gren Bay in July of '04. as you can see it was a "bloody" mess and scales falling off. To this day we don't know why or what caused it. And just released the fish. Possibly VHS?

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stacker
Posted 5/14/2007 11:21 AM (#55795 - in reply to #55762)
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Good grab Jerry!!!

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guest
Posted 5/23/2007 4:38 PM (#56263 - in reply to #55790)
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have also caught walleyes with markings like this on both bago and the bay of greenbay. when i asked what was up with this i was told it was from them spawning.markings were there well into july. i think this has been here longer than anyone thinks.
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Purple Skeeter
Posted 5/23/2007 5:21 PM (#56265 - in reply to #55790)
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Jayman,

I've seen Walleyes in my boat like that up at Bay de Noc after my brother and Hartfield drop them a few times... lol

From the glow in that picture, it looks like you might be in Heaven.

Purple Skeeter

Edited by Purple Skeeter 5/23/2007 5:23 PM
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Viking
Posted 5/23/2007 10:41 PM (#56276 - in reply to #56265)
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I'm guessing the anonymous poster that started this thread is well known to WFers as a person with an irrational grudge against both our host and tournament anglers. He's been spouting paranoid conspiracy theory crap that would make Michael Moore and Oliver Stone blush. He even claims to have a 'list". Don't feed the trolls.
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jerry
Posted 5/24/2007 7:42 AM (#56278 - in reply to #56276)
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Yes, I've been reading the suspect's garbage on lake-link. Our good friend Tyee has been in conversation with this individual. I'm embarassed for this guy, as he has no idea what an azz he is making of himself. He obviously has a vendetta against anyone who fishes tourneys and he's looking to make trouble for that group, instead of focussing his efforts on doing something to make the fishery better.
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Sunshine
Posted 5/24/2007 11:20 AM (#56299 - in reply to #55756)
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Spoken like true tournament fisherman Jerry:

We all know that you guys are responsible for:
VHS
Herpes
Gonarilla
Syphilis
high gas prices
global warming
Typhoid fever
Gobies
Rusty crayfish
Dutch Elm diesese
Atheletes Foot
Gingivitis
Gypsy moths
Killer bees
Inflation
War
Lust
Crime
High birth rates
Alcoholism
High Divorce Rate
Nuclear pollution




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Shep
Posted 5/24/2007 12:03 PM (#56305 - in reply to #56299)
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and.


Lyme Disease
5th Disease


Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.
Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.

Jerry is personally responsible for Clamidia

Dennis is responsible for bringing Alzheimers to WF.


Edited by Shep 5/24/2007 12:04 PM
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jerry
Posted 5/24/2007 12:22 PM (#56307 - in reply to #56305)
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's priceless Shep!!!!!
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jerry
Posted 5/24/2007 1:02 PM (#56312 - in reply to #56307)
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Here is an excellent article written by Patrick DUrkin that appears in today's Green Bay Press Gazette:

Pat Durkin column: Ultimately, fight against VHS is an individual one


When confronting an environmental challenge, like viral hemorrhagic septicemia setting up shop in the Winnebago System, some conservationists look skyward and ask what Aldo Leopold or Rachel Carson would say.


That's a fair question, but if these deceased conservation icons could speak, they might advise us to cease the hand-wringing over VHS and get back to work. Although it's great to read and quote "A Sand County Almanac" and "Silent Spring," at some point, we must put inspiring words into action and find satisfaction in our efforts.


Isn't that what another icon from the Leopold/Carson era suggested in January 1961? Recall the final line of John F. Kennedy's inaugural address: "… asking God's blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth, God's work must truly be our own."


Such work doesn't include near-crazed claims that the Department of Natural Resources introduced VHS from eggs used for raising hatchery muskies, or that visiting fishing-tournament competitors must be responsible.


Geez, don't our hometowns spawn villains or rogue agencies? Why do we think the DNR can control a fish virus, yet we don't demand the Department of Health and Family Services quarantine deer ticks and Lyme disease?


We never will know how or when VHS reached our inland lakes, let alone if it arrived via a cormorant's feathers, a fishing boat's live well or a pleasure-boater's mooring line. Besides, we shouldn't assume VHS is the ultimate threat to state fisheries. It might simply be fair warning that it's past time for comprehensive, statewide actions to prevent diseases not yet identified.


But who will support tough measures?


Given how much we complain about taxes and license fees, how much more would we pay to put inspectors at popular boat landings to ensure everyone does all they can — or face fines?


Think about it. Before leaving the landing, can you be trusted — from this day forward — to pump your bilge, drain your live well, dump your minnow bucket and scrub your boat and ropes with chlorinated water to remove clinging plants and possible diseases? Or will you perform those tasks at home, no matter which lake you last visited or which you'll visit next?


We all want to stop exotic diseases and species, but it's like restroom hygiene: If we're alone and assured no one is watching, we're less prone to wash our hands before walking out. We're just one person, after all. Work and sacrifice are duties best left to others.


Or are they?


Leopold and Carson are proof that individuals can make a difference, yet even they would agree some challenges are easier than others. Carson's "Silent Spring," for example, helped mobilize the nation against spraying DDT, but let's concede people are more open to change when seeing poisoned tweety birds twitching their last.


Managing unseen diseases or free-ranging invasive species is more difficult than controlling man-made, factory-distributed chemicals. Even so, we aren't powerless. If it inspires you, read "Silent Spring" and honor Rachel Carson on her 100th birthday on Sunday.


Then, follow her lead and study the natural resources around you.


Next, appreciate your area's home-grown conservation successes, and recognize the pleasures they bring. Twenty years ago, anglers and other conservationists helped save fragile cane beds on the Winnebago System by posting warning signs and "deputizing" everyone to keep anglers, waders and boaters out of the canes or endure scorn and insults.


Those same groups were vital in helping the DNR build breakwalls throughout that system to protect shoreline wetlands. They also helped restore spawning areas in the upper Wolf and Fox rivers. Each spring they stand vigil against poachers in sturgeon-spawning areas.


As with democracy, love of the land and water can't be installed by government. It must come from within.


So, rather than pointing out bogeymen and other scapegoats, we must realize natural resources are best protected by our own joys, labor and shared responsibilities.
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Sunshine
Posted 5/24/2007 1:09 PM (#56314 - in reply to #56312)
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Nice article

Thanks for sharing

Hope we all can remember it

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