Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.
walleye express
Posted 7/25/2007 3:03 PM (#59008)
Subject: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
I'll start off this post by saying it seems better to always stick to my game plan. After hearing a report last night about tough fishing straight out of Hoyles yesterday morning and afternoon, I decided to head over to the 47's, start there and troll North. But I heard at the dock this morning from my charter boat neighbor, that the fishing was hot last night right out in front of Hoyles. So we started there and didn't have so much as a bump for over an hour. Pulled lines and went to my 47's numbers. Had 2 rods out and we had a fish on already. Fished for the remaining 2 hours of our 1/2 day trip, boated 20 walleyes and kept 14.

Now, what we used on one side of the boat today was also somthing new to me. The Eyeliminator Spoon and Harness rigs have been around for a while now. I've never commented on them, simply because I've never used them. But to be honest I always thought they were a bit "To Busy". Let me explain that. Years ago we built and ran rigs similar to these lures on the Saginaw Bay. But the water column was a lot cloudier then, and all that flash (back then) seemed more an asset versus something that might scare walleyes away now that the water column is crystal clear. But with some recent success posts about these lures, I thought what the heck and picked up 5 popular colors at the Linwood Beach Marina yesterday when I was filling up with gas. And let me also say this about them. Their selling price is very, very reasonable. The components used are quality. The packaging excellent and now add the Tommy Harris painting touch, and I cannot see how they can turn a profit selling them that cheap. And now the real question, "Do they work?". I ran one side of the boat today with these lures 35 back, 1.7 MPH while using my own custom painted 1 1/2 ounce Keel sinkers. I didn't use live bait at all, but used Gulp 6 inch Nightcrawlers. This side of the boat had more action then did the other side with cranks and a piece of real crawler on the belly hook. I was going to write down the neat names of some of these new colors since Tommy started painting them, but forgot. But heres the picture of the fish and the ones I used today.



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Sunshine
Posted 7/25/2007 3:33 PM (#59010 - in reply to #59008)
Subject: Re: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin
Dan,

I wholeheartedly agree. They're really something aren't they? In all honesty I too was a bit pessimistic about these especially on Green Bay. Believe it or not, our water is even clearer than yours.

I was fortunate to take a rode trip with Tommy Harris to your neck of the woods and fished with the creators of this rig. They made a believer out of me. First they made me believe that they worked on Saginaw. We kicked butt with them there. Then I brought some home to try. Caught fish with them on Bay de Noc and then on Green Bay my last two times out. They work.

The biggest thing that I had to overcome was the use of steel leaders on their magnums. I was afraid that our walleyes were spooked to such things. Running them side by side with my own homemade spinners convinced me that I was wrong.

Now I'm planning on experimenting with them on Bago and I'll be trying fast speeds. That's a new frontier for me (speeding up) that the boys in Saginaw taught me. Going over 2 mph is considered lunatic here. But again, they taught me that it just isn't true.

I'm not good with their names either but those two purple ones that you have pictured are working for me here too.

Now you got me wanting to try Gulp with them.
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Eyeliminator
Posted 7/25/2007 5:51 PM (#59016 - in reply to #59008)
Subject: RE: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.


Capt. Dan & Sunshine,
Thank you very much for the reviews, glad to here of your success with our rigs!! Also, glad to here they are producing over there on Green Bay and Bay De Noc, it's always cool to hear the success stories from different bodies of water. But, let's not forget our home waters of Saginaw Bay, some of the hottest action that I have ever witnessed, is taking place out there!! We have been doing very well with the magnum Rock Lobster the last few trips out. The pink has been quite all summer but, has just gone nuts out here on the bay the last couple of days. We have been out in the same area as you were today Dan, running 3oz. B/B 100' back at a speed of 1.9-2.0 mph on the GPS. That is one of the hardest things to get some guys to do is up there speed with these rigs, it works. Once they give it a try they are hooked!! The lures that Capt. Dan is showing are, from top to bottom, Midnight Special(chartreuse on the inside of the blade) Hells Bells and, Metallica (caught a couple of big northerns on this one) very good color combo's all summer. Here's wishing you guys continued success, and thanks for the feedback, good, bad, or ugly we appreciate it all!
Take care,
Jim
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fiveinthelive
Posted 7/25/2007 5:56 PM (#59017 - in reply to #59010)
Subject: Re: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



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The smaller version has been great over here too. Skeeter (Nels Larsen) ran them in my boat, on his side and absolutely kicked my butt.

I hear Tommy's got some Gold ones on the way with a killer paint job, can't wait to see that.

Best colors have been Green Lantern, Spiderman, Rock lobster(pink), Sponge Bob,
I have not tried any of the magnums yet this year, the smaller ones are getting it done just fine.

Dan
were you on the bottom at 35 back ? thats where these really seem to shine for me.


Edited by fiveinthelive 7/25/2007 5:58 PM
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Eyeliminator
Posted 7/25/2007 5:56 PM (#59018 - in reply to #59008)
Subject: RE: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.


Metallica is in the middle and Hells Bells is at the bottom of the photo.
Thanks again,
Jim
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Skeeter
Posted 7/25/2007 6:17 PM (#59019 - in reply to #59018)
Subject: RE: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



Location: Midland, MI 48642
Yup, I am hooked on these lures. Funny thing is everyone trolls them at 1.8 to 2.2 and I NEVER troll more than 1.2 or 1.3 at the most and I do just as good as everyone else. So it just goes to show you how versatile this lure really is. They have just about every color now except gold. I see now that Gold color is in the making. Great. My favorite color. I also use inline weights most of the time but they can be trolled behind jets, bottom bouncers, 3 ways or disks you name it. I have put a lot of fish in the boat this year with them. Skeeter
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walleye express
Posted 7/25/2007 6:21 PM (#59020 - in reply to #59017)
Subject: Re: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
fiveinthelive - 7/25/2007 6:56 PM
Dan
were you on the bottom at 35 back ? thats where these really seem to shine for me.



I may have been close to bottom with the furthest one out on the tether line as I was running my Dual Riviera's and not In-Lines. But the ones further up the line, closest to the boat and further off the water seemed the busiest. I'm guessing those were anywhere from 5 to 7 feet off bottom in 21 FOW at the speed I was going.

Edited by walleye express 7/25/2007 6:23 PM
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walleye express
Posted 7/26/2007 8:01 AM (#59031 - in reply to #59010)
Subject: Re: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
Sunshine - 7/25/2007 4:33 PM

Dan,

I wholeheartedly agree. They're really something aren't they? In all honesty I too was a bit pessimistic about these especially on Green Bay. Believe it or not, our water is even clearer than yours.

I was fortunate to take a rode trip with Tommy Harris to your neck of the woods and fished with the creators of this rig. They made a believer out of me. First they made me believe that they worked on Saginaw. We kicked butt with them there. Then I brought some home to try. Caught fish with them on Bay de Noc and then on Green Bay my last two times out. They work.

The biggest thing that I had to overcome was the use of steel leaders on their magnums. I was afraid that our walleyes were spooked to such things. Running them side by side with my own homemade spinners convinced me that I was wrong.

Now I'm planning on experimenting with them on Bago and I'll be trying fast speeds. That's a new frontier for me (speeding up) that the boys in Saginaw taught me. Going over 2 mph is considered lunatic here. But again, they taught me that it just isn't true.

I'm not good with their names either but those two purple ones that you have pictured are working for me here too.

Now you got me wanting to try Gulp with them.


Dennis,

I fudged a little on my first post. We did start out yesterday using 2 gulps and 2 real crawlers on the rigs, but noticed after checking them the first few times that the smaller fish were hitting and stripping the real ones off undetected. This I determined was indeed due to the obvious heavier pull of these rigs, their complicted nature and the faster speeds I was trolling. If I was in a (one man-two rods) situation, watching and personally tending to only two rods, then using real crawlers might even have produced more fish, who knows? Using the gulps of course solves all those problems and worked just as good it seemed yesterday.

Edited by walleye express 7/26/2007 8:12 AM
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Westside
Posted 7/27/2007 12:52 PM (#59108 - in reply to #59008)
Subject: RE: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.


These look sweet and with the components involved very well priced!! I would be interested in trying a few on the Madison lakes that I fish but noone sells them around here(that I know of).

Checked a few of the online stores mentioned in another post but am a little irritated by their shipping/handleing charges. Not the manufactures fault by any means but one of the sources has a very steep s&h curve. Would almost double the cost of my experimental order.

Any way to buy them direct?
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Eyeliminator
Posted 7/27/2007 2:43 PM (#59115 - in reply to #59008)
Subject: RE: Sag. Bay/Eyeliminator Lure Review.


Westside,
E-mail me at [email protected]
Thanks,
Jim
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