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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Being around as long as I have in the fishing Guiding and chartering business, I've been blessed to meet and come in contact with some really nice people. Some actually having the confidence and trust in me to let me Pro Staff for them or try some of their newer products in my business. I'll never be able to re-pay the early Storm Lure company/family for their early trust in me, when I started guiding in 1986 for Salmon and Steelhead's out of my Drift Boat. Nor Dave Storm of Ka'Boom Lures, for his continued trust in me. And even though a guy in my position risks getting called or perceived as a liar, because of getting these free or cheaper products when making posts about his success's when using them, I've always tried my best to back any posts up with both pictures and facts concerning any posts about them.
Recently I've been blessed again by the manufacturer of yet another quality product. As with the other products, I go into this particular arrangement with my eyes wide open willing to give the product a fair shake and an honest review if and when it works for me here on Saginaw Bay. I've fielded hundreds of personal E-mails and PM's from message boards over the years from people from around the U.S. who have read my posts about many of the things I both use and have modified. I have never (at least I hope not) given anybody any false expectations about any one lure or technique that has worked for me here on Saginaw Bay. Similar to my charters, I do not guarantee fish, nobody honestly can. And most all of us know that some things that work on one body of water often does not work on others. I can however (with a reasonable reliability) speculate from my total experiences during the 50 years I've been fishing, rather some things I see and think about trying might work or not. So after this long, boring intro, enter the new #8 Tommy Harris blades. These big Thumpers, in the colors we've all been craving, show some real promise in my eyes. My first application with these monsters will be with a modified Eyeliminator. I'll be taking off the regular size TH blade and replacing it with this bigger version. Will bigger blades equal more or bigger fish? We'll see. Here's a sneak peak at the blades and some of the colors Tommy will be putting on these rigs early next year.
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| I would like to know what the big hype is on the Tommy Harris blade? I've never used them. Just want to know what's the differince between that and a deep cut colorado? is it color or blade style? |
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| The Tommy Harris blades just down right rock!! Custom colors available with different colored holograms and blade styles are just awesome. They will NOT chip or peel, will take a beating and keep on running, quality stuff. That is why we here at Eyeliminator are proud to be affiliated with Tommy Harris and his product line, just very good, quality product for your buck. And Capt. Dan, we have run those #8 blades with our magnum rigs and have had very good results, it is just amazing what will smack those huge blades. We have caught 10" perch up to 5 and 6 pound eyes with them. Just waiting for hogzilla to come along and take one of these monster blades!! Anyway, please keep us informed with your results.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Cranky - 8/6/2007 2:51 AM
I would like to know what the big hype is on the Tommy Harris blade? I've never used them. Just want to know what's the differince between that and a deep cut colorado? is it color or blade style?
Cranky.
Don't put me down as a Tommy Harris groupie yet. Just because I like my neighbors personalitity don't mean I'll be cutting his lawn any time soon. I do like the holographic paint job schemes on the blades, and I'm starting to see how they have held up on the other E-rigs I've been using. And it's very true that a lot of things in fishing catch our human eye and look like crap to the fiish. I just thought, like a lot of other things I use or try, I'd put it out there for all fishermen to see first hand. |
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Location: Appleton wi | There very pretty and i'v used them out on the bay and tried them on bago! I even tried sunshines favorite color out on the bay. Never had much luck with them seems that good ol gold and copper hammered blades still out fish them in my humble opinion! |
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| Hmmmm.... Just what is Sunshines favorite color ? LOL
all of my big fish this year have came on Tommy's blades, with a harness I made from Stack beads and a wedding ring, IMHO it don't get any better.
As far as painted blades go, it is sometimes hard to find a finish or paint that doesn't peel, crack or just plain old wash off after a few days of running them, or after they've been hit by few fish.
I have a ton Tommy's blades and so far not one of them has had any problems with the finish, some of which i have been running for 3 years.
I have not set the bay on fire this year winning tournies, BUT this has been my best year for big fish, my personal best being an 8.9 pounder, netted by SKEETER.
http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/board/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?...
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Location: Midland, MI 48642 | Sure don't want to start a p'ing match about blades but I am here to tell you that I have a bunch of TH blades in all sorts of colors. All I use anymore on Saginaw Bay. Not sure what Sunshines hot color is but mine changes each day BUT I can honestly say that Green Lantern pattern is always out and always no matter what always catches a fish. I have a color indicator I started using this summer and it gives me a good idea what color should be using at any certain time so I pull out the box and find one. I have had no problem with chipped paint what so ever and I can always find a color to work. Tommy da man!  Keep coming out with new colors, gotta love it. Skeeter |
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| "As far as painted blades go, it is sometimes hard to find a finish or paint that doesn't peel, crack or just plain old wash off after a few days of running them, or after they've been hit by few fish.
I have a ton Tommy's blades and so far not one of them has had any problems with the finish, some of which i have been running for 3 years."
I've bit my tongue on this, since some don't care for my "sunny personality", but I do expect results. I bought some of Tommy's blades (a good chunk of change) that I personally ordered from Tommy about 3-4year ago. The tape washed off in the first run or two and the paint was polished off to a brand new silver looking blade.
I've since resorted to painting my own blades in my own custom colors, so I'm not complaining, just don't need things sugar coated. Now feel free to bash away, but like I said I demand results from what I use.
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| I like Jason's sunny personality and Tommy's blades. I have only used them this year, but I had no paint issues either. I don't know the name of it, but there is a light blue one with a red bead that I won't be without. My only complaint is flies keep sticking to them....
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| Every one has a opinion on what is the best, worst, etc. This is one conversation you will never win. You like Tommys stuff as we do here at Eyeliminator, great! If not, thats fine too,..............enough said. This is why we live here in America, we are free to make choices, and have our own opinions!! Just get out and enjoy some of the awesome fishing that we are FREE to do! It doesn't get any better than this!
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | I believe everyone's posts about their personal use, complaints and praises about Tommy blades. Because of knowing a few of the posters personally and respecting the others through years of reading their other posts on this and other boards. But similar to that always popular "Ford versus Chevy" debate, these things can get carried away. All of us stay faithful to what works for us and not so complimentary about the things that let us down. I do it, we all do it. In fact, I'm often grateful for it, as it often saves me from making a monetary mistake of my own.
My first impressions and observations of Tommy's blades (as I've only been using Them for a very short time) is a positive one. I've ran them on my last 3 charters on the Bay, a total of about 12 hours wash time on each blade on the 4 rods I've been using them on. Also consider I'm doing what you should not be doing when running out to your fishing spot, especially when using harnesses. That is, keeping the rods in the holders and letting the wind beat the crap out of the blades against the rods on the way out. None are showing any chips or wear as of yet. That might change with more use, and if it does, I'll say so. |
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| Let me also state that I found Tommy to be a great guy to talk with and to deal with. He was timely and delievered what he said he would.
I'm just saying spare me the "Tommy Harris Spinner Blade commercial" on every spinner thread. A plug here and there we can all deal with. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy. I just stated my results. |
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| Capt. Dan............. There ya go again
Stating the ford,chevy thing........... only problem is that you forgot to mention the only REAL truck DODGE CUMMINS...........lmao
J/K................ I agree everybody has there likes/ dislikes when it comes to OUR personal outdoor gear or whatever it may be. If it work's for you then use it. If it doesn't work don't use it simple as that.
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| Maybe I'm old school, but how long have you guys been pullin blades? Here in WI they have only been popular for say 5-7 years, maybe a bit longer but untill recently the market has been primarily "Colorado" blades and in these recent past years there have been a lot of "small" blade harnesses available commercially.
Who are the players in todays market if your not making your own?????? Tommy does a fantastic job and untill the competition comes along with a better fishtrap, He's the man!
Keep the infomercial going, and Jayman if you're painting a better product I want to try it!!!!!!!!!!
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jayman - 8/7/2007 4:20 PM
Let me also state that I found Tommy to be a great guy to talk with and to deal with. He was timely and delievered what he said he would.
I'm just saying spare me the "Tommy Harris Spinner Blade commercial" on every spinner thread. A plug here and there we can all deal with. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the guy. I just stated my results.
Jayman and anybody else reading this post.
Allow me to be sarcastic. Here is my personal E-mail address [email protected] I want any of you who have discovered something new or old that is working and catching you more walleye, but are afraid to post anything about it, thinking it might get called an info-mercial, feel free to E-mail both the pictures and particulars about it to me. God forbid we share what might be working for us, and on a fishing board of all places.  |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | I'll probably regret typing this, but oh well. LOL
Here's my take. I've seen the posts and heard the rumbles behind the walleye scene. Tommy makes a great looking and durable product. I've even given him a few plugs. I don't think the problem Dan is that other people want to spam their product, but we've all had an overdose of Tommy Harris and Eyeliminator lately. Not necessarily you doing it, but you're catching the tail-end of the reprocussions. I even considered and discussed yanking advertising elsewhere because I can't compete with the spam. Why pay for advertising when I can have customers do it for free, or for a few blades? Others feel the same way. Granted, allot of the hype is because they're great products, but some are taking it way overboard and having IMHO a negative impact now. I know my opinion may be considered skewed, but it's my opinion and I stand behind it. |
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| Terror, thanks for the post and the link to your site again, Quite frankly I remember reading and visiting your site about 3-4 years ago and even contacted you regarding your paint jobs if I remember correctly, but COMPLETELY forgot about you! Where you been?
Nice to know your still lurking around these sites, Let me know when you start painting #5 colorados with winning colors I'd be glad to buy a few! Do you have any testimonials? I'm not a fan of self promotion but sometimes it has to be done to get support! If it works and others, I trust support those successes I'd be happy to try them!
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Tyee just your average joe looking for great products!
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | I've been here. My rear end was just chapped for a few. LOL I've burried the hatchet and feel better these days.
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It sounds like you need a little cheese with your'e wine! Dan and all the other gentleman are just talking about what they have been using to make there fishing more productive, it doesn't matter what they use it's about helping other fisherman, and using other tool's in catching fish! |
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| Bob, Lighten up.
Tyee, In order fro me to be painting a better PRODUCT, would mean what I'm painting is for sale. At this time that is not the case. But there is a select few out there that have some of these blades. |
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| Jayman..... I am waiting for a handful of your blades to run... I was impressed with your custom paint jobs. I think you should paint some up for me in your spare time. When are we hitting the Bay this August together?
On the TH blades. I bought a bunch, the thing I like the best is the size, and the hammered inside not outside. Granted I have some custom blades of my own also and they all work for me. Funny thing is most trips the blade that catches the most is still a plain copper hammered blade.
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| Bob, fishing together in August? You are the competition now! hahaha I've got some room on Saturday possibly, I'll be firming up plans tomorrow. |
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| Jayman,
I will give you a shout this evening or tomorrow. I am going to be on the water all day tomorrow and Sat prepping for the BotB. Competition? What competition. Last I checked you and Brad were still in good position to take the SWC team of the year. Me and Capt. Jason are a bit lower on the ladder. We are having a blast fishing together though!
Oh and incase anyone cares.... Go big or go home! Big thump and big flash to attract those big Hawgs.
I will offer this.... I have caught my fair share of fish over the years running small home made harnesses with small twin Colorado or Indianan blades mixed in a spread of cranks run 2 to 2.5 mph.
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| Bob,
Sounds good, unfortunately I can't fish the BOTB. Family commitments. But perhaps I can help you.
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| Jason, My point exactly, Until you or others start marketing a better blade I'm gonna stick with Tommy! So keep the infomercial going he has an awesome product with very little competition for those of us without the time to do our own and spend countless hours experimenting on the water, That is why I enjoy this site as it is nice to see the products that are available immediately and to hear from some great sticks what works for them. You can keep your "secret" paitjob if you prefer but I love the comercial aspect of how we can network and promote others products, without relying on the "pros" to release the secrets of their success! We all know how that works now don't we! Some in this industry are finally realizing that "pro staff" is not the best way to market product to us average Joe's.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | tyee - 8/10/2007 1:53 AM
Jason, My point exactly, Until you or others start marketing a better blade I'm gonna stick with Tommy! So keep the infomercial going he has an awesome product with very little competition for those of us without the time to do our own and spend countless hours experimenting on the water, That is why I enjoy this site as it is nice to see the products that are available immediately and to hear from some great sticks what works for them. You can keep your "secret" paitjob if you prefer but I love the comercial aspect of how we can network and promote others products, without relying on the "pros" to release the secrets of their success! We all know how that works now don't we! Some in this industry are finally realizing that "pro staff" is not the best way to market product to us average Joe's.
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Tyee.
Man did you hit the nail on the head with this post. I'm not used to seeing many other people on my side of the fence, on this issue. Or at least not many willing to say or risk the inuendos for posting about any certain product that works for them, no matter who's it is. There will always be a very real attitude difference between Joe Blows and Pro's. That part of that game does make sense to me. But I strain to understand why seasoned anglers, guides or charter captains hate seing beginners or fellow anglers gain any new knowledge to help them catch more fish. This whole fishing indutry is connected in one way or another. Every part of it gains when new people get interested in it, hire a guide or charter and/or start buying all the things connected with it. And they need/want to know what works for the guys already in it. We fishermen all worry about VHS, polution, invasives or anything else that will hurt our quality free time on the water. Yet, try to keep secret anything that will help draw more people to our sport and our side of these issues. It must be true what my anti-gun neighbor told me once. Only a guy holding a gun can shoot himself in the foot. Must be the same for a fishing pole. 
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| Okay, I'm going out tonight to buy myself some rosy shade glasses......geeesh!
Tyee, Why the dig? My "secret" paint job blade? At what point did I solicit my blades? I didn't. When did it become wrong for me not to supply every person I bump into my "wealth of knowledge" (which we all know how little that is) regarding fishing and/or anything else? Is it wrong to enjoy fishing a spot all on your own and not be in a "community spot? Is it wrong to have a bait or lure that you feel gives you an "edge" and not share it with the entire WF community?
Part of this game to me, is doctoring up my own lures and blades and harnesses and fishing them. If they catch fish great, if not, big deal back to the drawing board. I enjoy that aspect of the game, the part I dislike the most about this game, Liars, cheats, and braggers. I don't post lies, I don't post braggin reports and I don't cheat. Now feel free to question my ethics...
Dan, you're a 4 seasons outfitter with 23 years of guideing experience, yet you've run a blade for a mere tiny fraction of your experience and caught fish on what I gather seems like a pretty good bite (sounds like you could catch fish on a spark plug) on Saginaw bay this year. Your endorsement speaks to me some obligation for recieveing free product from Tommy. Kudos to you. All I asked earlier was people to lay up on sugar coating/plugging a sponsors product. I stated my results after a season of use, yet I'm the one chastised for having the disappointed results in said product.
I would call that sharing of knowledge, not plugging a free product, even if it's not a positive experience. But hey, like I said, I'm getting the glasses tonight.
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Dan,
I am with you on this issue. I just worked out the preliminary details for a series of three "seminars" on walleye fishing to be put on by our club at a newly opened bait shop in an adjoing town (here towns aren't "nearby" they just butt up against one another...I hate "sprawl"). Our Walleye Club is always on the lookout for opportunities to share info and excite people to join us in our favorite activity.
And, time and time again... Where to go and how to catch them are the questions we get the most. The only way to succeed in attracting new people or exciting the casual fisherman is to give them "good" solid information. We have always made a point of suggesting that at some time in their future they should hire a guide because it is the fastest way to shorten their learning curve.
There is no way that each of us independently has the time or money to try everything. If we don't share information we will all lose out in the end. And, if something works I like to know. I have a supplier of custom blades (actually two) and I buy them commercially. I haven't bought any Tommy Harris blades yet, But, I will and I expect that I will find them successful (I know I find them "purdy" to me). When I do, I will pass that al;ong just as I have passed along info on the guys that supply me with custom blades. I am glad that you and Sunshine have been so positive about the product. It has helped me and I know it has helped others.
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| Jason, I didn't mean it to sound like a dig to you personally as I know you are speaking to many of the people you know here, my point was simply I love to fish and love to buy "new" stuff, and my buying is more influenced by users than Marketing or Packaging. (never bought the banjo minnow)
I am taking customers to Canada in a few weeks! novice is the word for them (never heard of fireline or powerpro) much less hear from a pro on stage what worked for them!!!!! They have no idea what to get. These guys are going to buy whatever I suggest. This happens with every customer I entertain on the water. Most of the time we catch fish and they are happy.
Seriously how many of the thousands of fishing licenses sold go to "avid" fisherman like you and me that know just a bit too much to be dangerous? If the novice has success he's gonna buy what works for him or what his buddy caught the big one on! and Holy crap, you should see the crap my teenagers have spent money on these days! I'd rather they spend it on a Luckycraft instead of Holister!
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jayman - 8/10/2007 9:44 AM
Dan, you're a 4 seasons outfitter with 23 years of guideing experience, yet you've run a blade for a mere tiny fraction of your experience and caught fish on what I gather seems like a pretty good bite (sounds like you could catch fish on a spark plug) on Saginaw bay this year. Your endorsement speaks to me some obligation for recieveing free product from Tommy. Kudos to you. All I asked earlier was people to lay up on sugar coating/plugging a sponsors product.
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Please, take no offense. But the difference you alude to and my posting intentions are stated clearly in the very first post about my short experience with the TH blades, as did I with the Eyeliminator's post. Along with my intentions to only post again if they worked. When stuff works for me (rather it's an easy bite on chewing gum or a pro staff product) I'll be talking about it. I've been sharing this type of info freely in club newspapers, national published fishing magazines and other Michigan Monthly publications for over 20 years, and long before any of it would come back in any form to benefit me personally. And if it's your preference to keep quiet about such things and simple gleam new tips, techniques and products off others willing to share, more power to you. But trying to shame or embarrass the guys that do share is sad and keeps that many more from ever doing so. I'm not trying to con anybody and I wouldn't be to quick to run spark plugs if you ever get over this way. But guess what? If I ever do, and catch a few fish on them, this whole board is going to know about it, and rather they were AC's or Delco's.
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| hahaha, Jason you know NGK makes the best plug bait, although the iridium Denso's are pretty hot too! I use them more for snap weights though, the best are used ones, there must be something about the scent!
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| Dan, I'm not taking offense, and I understand your position. First let me apologize, because I didn't mean to "railroad" your thread. It mearly got caught in the crossfire.
Again, I shared my experience and asked others to lay up on the obvious product plugging, especially after it coincided with my experience.
You state that you see no harm with people sharing info to help beginners learn more about this sport. Then how is it any different knowing about the good and the BAD when it comes to products, tips, techniques, so on, and so on?
Surely you must of made a mistake at one time or another, or wish you hadn't done something, bought something. Do you think you'd still have gone down the same road if some one told you it was a path for failure? Or were you the kid that still stuck his tongue to the flag pole in the middle of winter even after you were told your tongue would stick?
I'm gonna let this one rest now, I thinkwe all made our points.
Rodger, you have entirely way too much time on your hands. hahaha
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Location: Berlin | I have sat on the side lines for this but when people have the NERVE to start picking on the banjo minnow I have to speak. The banjo minnow IS responsible for the entire fishing industry being where it is today. If it was not for the BANJO MINNOW we would all be sitting on the bank with a piece of wood and a string. You ever heard of world war III? Of course not, thanks to the banjo minnow. Wanna know what is discussed more then anything behind closed doors at the White House??? Thats right, the Banjo Minnow! Wanna know what 8 out of ten doctors reccomend for stress related issues? A little time with the banjo minnow. Wanna know what my favorite bait is??? A crawler harness with a TOMMY HARRIS BLADE! Have a good weekend |
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | So do you use the BANJO MINNOW in place of the crawler?
I've found the BANJO MINNOW to be much more effective if I hum the music that aired with the infomerical while I'm fishing.
http://www.banjominnow.com/
And remember, there is no instant pudding in walleye fishing, but there is at your supermarket.
http://www.kraftfoods.com/jello/products/pudding/instant-pudding-an...
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Guest - 8/10/2007 2:25 PM
Ok, I have to respond. When the feed bag is on, the larger blades will catch bigger fish. But, If the bite is tough, the larger blades will spook and scare the bigger fish. The smaller blades will at least give you a shot at an instinct bite. It's more important to concentrate on the color of the blade.
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I agree with those assumptions 100%. You have good insight, why not register and share your name?
And Jayman.
I'm very glad we're still copasetic.
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| Whatever you do.... don't you dare start making fun of crawlers.... by the way, is anyone else having trouble getting crawlers this year. I can't seem to figure it out. Hmmm.. let see 1/2 inch of rain on my lawn in 4 months.... I'd need a drilling rig to reach the crawlers in my yard this year, but i'll betcha the ones that survive are going to be 2 feet long after having to crawl through mud as hard as a rock. PS |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Sunshine's favorite color is a combination of pink, white and blue. I'd put a picture up and tell you that I have caught lot's of fish on the pattern but I do not want to be told that I am spamming.
........ and, for the record, that color was great previous years but it was just another blade color for me this year that caught fish but did not stand out as well like it did the previous 2-3 years. I must have told too many people and the fish became conditioned to it. :-0
Some of you guys kill me. You complain that people will not report "secret spots", "bites" and "presentations" but when some do they are spamming.
Tommy Harris Blades work for me. The Eyeliminator has been working for me this season. Saw them (Eyeliminator) working first hand in Saginaw and tried them on Green Bay with success. Is saying this spam? If you think so, move on and do not read the thread. You have that option. If you believe what I write and what Dan reports buy a couple and see for yourself. If they work for you report it here. If they do not work report that too. That's how the message boards work.
Dan reports that he is trying the new big number 8 blades from Tommy. How many of you even knew that Tommy was making those big blades before he reported it here? For some of us that is big news. Tommy has no web page and does not advertise in the big rags. How are people supposed to know about new product without people like Dan reporting it? Now we know and if we like the idea we will buy a few this winter to try. That's how it works and how it is supposed to work. Same with the Eyeliminator. It's a new product that is being used in Michigan. Many outside of the Saginaw area never heard of it before it was reported. They are hard to find unless you live in that area or know about their web page. Now many know about them and can decide for themselves if they want to try them. A "secret" presentation that has been used successfully across the country involves a spoon and crawler harness presentation. Now a startup company is producing a product that others have been making and experimenting with on their own. Wanna try it? Now you know where to go and how to get some. If you think it's hype and an info-commercial, move on. It really is that simple.
Terror,
One of the differences between WalleyeCentral and WalleyeFIRST is the fact that we can discuss and promote product here without the fear of the thread being pulled because that product does not buy advertisement. If you think that some of us go overboard, you have the choice the you have proclaimed yourself many times. Just do not read it.
Dan,
You are and have always been an innovator. You could never be accused of getting stale and only trying the proven stuff. Keep it coming. Some of your stuff I read word for word and take note. Other times I glance over it and move on quickly. That's my choice and I'll continue doing it. No one holds a gun to my head and forces me to read your stuff or any other thread that promotes a product that you like.
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I have received free product from Tommy Harris and from Eyeliminator. If you think my views are tainted because I received some free stuff ........................... move on ............. you have that freedom. |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi |
One of the differences between WalleyeCentral and WalleyeFIRST is the fact that we can discuss and promote product here without the fear of the thread being pulled because that product does not buy advertisement. If you think that some of us go overboard, you have the choice the you have proclaimed yourself many times. Just do not read it. >
Yep, a big difference. That's why I posted my opinion here. Would have been deleted over there. I was just a little ticked that they kept deleting my posts and kept Eyeliminators and yours. And I paid money for that???? Some think a certain moderator over there is sitting on a stack of blades and eyeliminators.  That's what I was talking about between the lines, then. I have no problem here. I don't pay for advertising and I've read the rules. Maybe I'll save the advertising budget next year and sell the DT Trolling system for $5. Just kidding. I'll just keep to marketing my trolling spoons and not step on any toes.
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| Terror,
Just remember there are PATENT laws..............................don't think you want to go there. |
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| Terror,
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p...
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| Terror,
Here is the patent #6813856, issued November 9, 2004, look it up, interesting stuff. Also, here is the info. for my attorney:
Litman Law Offices, Ltd.
Patent Law Building
3717 Columbia Pike
Arlington, Virgina,
22204
Mr. Richard C. Litman
Registered Patent Attorney
Read up on this also, very interesting stuff.
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | There it is! I guess it is patented. Color me stupid. LOL
Good read.
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| Yea it is some interesting stuff to look up some of the lures that are out there. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Gents,
Take a look at the Basement Baits forum on our sister site, MuskieFIRST. Custom builders, custom painters, and limited build manufacturers exchange concepts, solve problems in the processes they use, and offer their products for public view there. Some of the baits over there are truly works of art.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=25
I'd like to see the same spirit of discussion here, it's great for the folks BUYING your products to see them all and BUY them all, I know I would. Once new contributors over on the MuskieFIRST forum figure out 'competition' is to have your baits, blades, spoons, or whatever IN THE ANGLER'S BOX next to the others out there, the info really flows. I think it's a great deal to have your stuff on the end of any stick out there, Pro or no, if they are talking about it. If I like your product and how you present it, I'm going to buy it, too, and I'm going to talk about it. Fishermen, in general, are chumps for a good lure or component.
I have some of Tommy's blades. I'd love to see your collective work, POST A PICTURE and let the rest of us take a look.
As far as big blades catching big fish, I've seen it in Zach's boat more than once. I'd be really pumped to see some custom blades that would work on my Muskie and Pike stuff too(BIG market, you know...), anyone interested?
Terror, I hope I wasn't the 'chap' factor, if so I'm glad I'm not anymore. Dan, keep posting your experiments and success rates, I find your stuff a good read.
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