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Location: Appleton, WI | I've been realy thinking about adding a EM to my rig but when I talked to the marina about one they strongly recommended against one, Said very high rate of failure, When it works there nice but not reliable due to the vibration from water splash and shock from general running of the outboard is not so good. So I would love to here opinions from some others who have or have had engine mount electrics. If it matters I would be looking at the EM 36 volt. Dont know if the higher volt models are built a little tougher or not? |
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| I've had the opportunity to run the EM 101 for the last 3 seasons on tour and can tell you that the unit is extremely durable. I've averaged over 110 days on the water tournament fishing the last three years and never had a failure. That says alot for a product.
To answer your question about construction, the units are all made the same except for the size of the powerhead itself. The bigger units are not any stronger than the small ones.
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Location: Appleton, WI | Thanks Jason!! Minnkota advertizes a 2 year warrenty so at least for the next 2 years id have peice of mind and like you anything after that is a bonus!! ay 110 days that would be 4-5 seasons for me. I think i run about 25 days on the water every year and that includes river jigging which would use the bow mount not a EM. I would still like to here some others opions on the EM's!! |
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| Mine sees the water about 10 times a year and It has been in the shop twice and heading back again I love it but it has had its share of troubles, brushes are hard to keep in the motors and the reostats you will love it on green bay though... |
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Location: Appleton, WI | Jason and grouse, Have either of you noticed any differance in the way your boats handle? i,e; hole shot, low speed running, trim angle to keep bow down ect? |
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| I haven't seen any difference in performance. One thing I would recommend though is to install the bolts from the bottom up. By that I mean the nut end of the bolts should be on top of the cavitation plate, not underneath. |
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Location: Appleton, WI | Ok, Thanks for the tip! Is that for a little less water spray off the bolts and nut? |
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| hey Jason , Jason is right , we are a minn kota asc dealer this year we repaired only 3 EM's ( they were older than four years old , and they failed because of fishing line wraped around the shaft , I would add a terrova w ipoilt on the bow then you would have complete boat control , thanks Jim Pyle |
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| Mounting the bolts that way gives the prop cleaner water to use. Mounting the other way causes too much turbulance for the prop to grab.
I also have to agree with Jim, the ipilot is another alternative. |
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| everytime you go fishing, take you prop off and check for line on shaft, 90% of failures are caused from line , braided line in bad, it works it way up the shaft , and distroys the outer seals, which cause water leakage. these little checks will give you longer life on your trolling motor. |
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| If you fish big water and can't get on plane all the time and will be plowing alot of water I would pass on it. I had a 101 on my 621 and broke the mount and blew off 3 props and had an accuator go bad in 3 years time I really only used it 1 year after getting a Terrova. If you run mostly inland lakes I would think it would be okay but the unit wasn't practical to be on the back of my boat that only fishes on the great lakes. I say go bow mount with AP |
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| how come your 621 don't get up on plane? it should get up and go, breaking props and mounts sound like your not trimming your engine properly? somethings wrong |
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Location: Appleton, WI | Im looking at the EM for a 202X Triton. I understand what Guest 2 means, In rough water getting on plane is not a option! Just keeping the bow up and plowing water is the best way to keep dry and not beat yourself silly!! That kind of running must have been very hard on the mount and the props. I do some fishing on the Great Lakes, mostly The Bay. A little Salmon slammin and a full week on Erie as well. Alot of my time is on Lake Winnebago. The EM would be such a perfect match for my style of fishing but I have been cautioned by a marina who sells and services minnkota that I have some doughts on blowing the ching on one only to find out it wont hold up. |
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| I have had no problems getting on plane 620 225 e-tec, and no prop issues, running a raker 2, just doesn't seem to hold up for me, I only fish green bay and salmon on lake michigan 95 % of the time, you will love it for boat control but i would stick with the terrova on my next rig, good luck |
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| The best thing about the EM is when you are trolling in high winds with following seas. If you are going too fast, you just put the EM in reverse, and you can slow down to that .9 MPH you sometimes need to catch the fish. Being on the back of the boat, this is the ideal way to slow the boat down in this situation. You can't do that with a bowmount.
That said, I don't have an EM on my Tuffy. I use drift socks on either side off the front cleats. I just didn't want to spend the bucks on the EM, and add another battery for a 36V system.
I have heard of now problems with the 36V EM101. I know there were some issues with the prop shaft on the 24V versions, but I think that issue has been resolved.
If you want to afford it, go for it! Great tool for pulling spinner rigs!
Oh yes. Welcome Jason!
Edited by Shep 10/5/2010 7:58 AM
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| Big O hit my nail on the head. I fish great lakes, getting on plane in rough water isn't always an option. I personally don't think the EM and its mount can take the abuse of being either dragged behind at boat plowing through 2-4's, 3-5's or 4-6's for 100's of miles in a year's time let alone multiple year without any issues, or launching off of 3 ft swells at 40 plus miles an hour. Let's face it, walleye boats don't live a easy life. Look at what kicker mounts go through I've see panther mounts pulled off, broken into pieces etc, I've seen guys at FLW trailers with all sorts of broken parts that have MUCH better mounts that aren't made of plastic ripped to shreds and that aren't dragged through the water. IMO EM's just can't handle it, mine proved it time and time again and I don't even beat my boat it's not worth it I pay way to much for it. |
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| I fish the great lakes frequently for the last three years, I have a 621 w/225 HO, I have never had one problem with mine, i love it, have made 40 plus mile runs in 3-5 ft waves on Erie and still no problems, mine is a 80lb. thrust 24v , Kannon Kares |
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| great info... |
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| how long is the remote speed control cable? could i use the rear TM recept. to power one of these? |
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| The remote speed control cable is 18 feet long. Having trouble understanding the second question in your post - but I've never been the sharpest tool in that what-cha-ma-call-it that holds the tools!  |
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| Tommy TM "Trolling Motor" hope this sharpens you up  |
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| Sorry guys, thanks for the respose. My tuffy has rear TM plug... power it there? would'nt mind seeing a installation pic...
sounds good for spinner rigs...
Actually have another plan for a rear TM... pushing through pads and heavy weeds... front TM gets clogged but rear motor may help... we've thought of this for years but never pulled the trigger... might this year. |
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| I have a 24v EM on my Pro V and love it. Going on it's 4th season and I've put it to the test.
As for installation. I robbed the power for the rear TM receptical and mounted the brain for the EM under the gunnel on the driver side. I then ran the control switch along the gunnel and up to the dash. |
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