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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | I CATCH THE BULK OF MY FISH ON CRAWLERS , I FIND I DO NOT HAVE THE COUPLE DOZEN LEACHES OR HELGRIMITES OR MINOWS THAT I WOULD NORMALY TAKE TO THE LAKE... IS THE BAIT SHOP NITICING THIS LOST BUISNESS OR DO YOU BUY MORE AS YOU THROW OUT MORE WITH THE NEW VHS RULES? |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | With VHS being a new phenomina, and each State rushing to set some enforceable laws for both Dealers and users alike, the true impact on both is still up in the air. The bait department I know a little about, being I was in it for 4 years. Most all Ma and Pop places count very little on the sale of bait to keep them going. Only on those days when the guys are lined up out the door to they make any decent profit on bait. Or in those rare instances, when they can easily catch their own bait in good numbers do they count on it's contribution to the business. Bait is mainly kept for a drawing card to sell the other things on the walls. And rather this VHS thing gets technically ugly or not, I do really hate running out of bait. So I'm getting the same usual amount that I have been (before VHS) every time I head out. Just have to keep in mind your particular States rules/laws for keeping or disposing of them at days end.
Edited by walleye express 7/30/2007 9:29 AM
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | I will be coming to bago this week to prefish a tournament. Besides having to worry about packing the boat and truck with 10 trolling rods, 3 jigging rods, 3 bottom bouncer rods, 3 slip bobber rods, 10,000 crank baits, three anchors, 3 drift socks, etc.,etc.,ect................ I will also be bring 1/2 pound of leeches and 1/2 flat of crawlers.
Lots of things to make sure I have.
I assure you that I will not be throwing away my live bait after each day out. Too much money invested and I need to make sure that I have what I need for my tournament.
I will keep all live bait in separate containers and I will not use lake water to supply water to them. leeches will not hit any of my bait wells until tournament day. I will drain my boat and motors every day out and remove all weeds. I will disinfect the livewells. I will sleep well knowing that I have done all that I can do and expect DNR officials to be happy with my attempts. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | hey dennis ... might be a good idia to stay somewhere that you can leave your boat in the water.. sounds like it would save a bit of money as your bait and boat arent removed from the system as you will not have to throw away your leaches. for the extr couple of bux a night to stay on the water i have found the fact that you arent paying launch fees and trailering your rig, good luck this weekend , |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Thanks, good idea. and thanks for the good luck wishes |
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| Dennis, you can stay at Walleye X's place on the lake by Oshkosh. Tell him I said it was OK!
And, yes I did see Dan Plautz's pig Muskie from the Goon. Maybe some day I'll tag along with Worrall, and get me one of those supertankers, and some big eyes, too. |
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| DNR considers backing off statewide fish movement ban
By Todd Richmond
Associated Press writer
MADISON — State wildlife officials want to relax plans for a statewide ban on moving fish if a deadly fish virus spreads.
Temporary rules established to control the spread of the VHS virus would prohibit moving live fish off any Wisconsin water if the virus is found anywhere beyond the Lake Winnebago chain. But the Natural Resources Board plans to vote Wednesday on permanent regulations that would limit the movement ban to the specific body of water where the virus is found.
State Department of Natural Resources officials say the virus probably hasn’t spread across Wisconsin and they don’t want outbreaks hundreds of miles away to inconvenience anglers and bait harvesters.
George Meyer, executive director of the Wisconsin Wildlife Federation, blasted the rules as weak.
“We’re actually going backwards,” Meyer said. “This means we’re only protecting those waters where we’ve already found the problem. We won’t be effectively protecting the state.”
VHS, also known as viral hemorrhagic septicemia, lives in water and causes fish to bleed to death. It can’t harm humans, but it can infect a wide variety of fish and has been blamed for large fish kills in Europe, Japan and on both U.S. coasts.
The virus has spread through much of the Great Lakes over the past five years. New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have adopted regulations designed to contain it.
The Wisconsin DNR, afraid the virus could decimate Wisconsin fishing, adopted temporary rules this spring that prohibited moving live fish off Lake Michigan, Lake Superior and the Mississippi River. The rules also required boaters on those waters to drain all water from their equipment.
The Natural Resources Board extended the rules to the Lake Winnebago system in May after the virus was detected in those waters. The board also amended the package to require a statewide ban on fish movement if the virus showed up in another inland water. So far, the virus hasn’t been found anywhere else in Wisconsin.
Aside from the change in the movement ban’s scope, the permanent rules are nearly identical to the temporary regulations. The only other significant change is a requirement that wild bait harvesters disinfect their gear.
DNR officials dropped the statewide ban because they want as many anglers and bait harvesters to buy into the prevention effort as possible, said Mike Staggs, director of the agency’s fisheries bureau.
People in northern Wisconsin probably wouldn’t understand why they couldn’t move fish off their favorite lake if VHS turns up 200 miles away, Staggs said. Wild bait harvesters were worried a statewide ban would put them out of business, he added.
“The concern is doing as much as you possibly can, every conceivable thing you can, to stop the spread, versus making sure people accept the rule and are willing to comply with it,” Staggs said.
Dennis Vanden Bloomen of Eau Claire, about 200 miles from Lake Winnebago, is president of the Ojibleau Trout Unlimited chapter, which covers eight northwestern Wisconsin counties. He said a statewide ban may eventually be needed, but a spot ban would work best now.
“I wouldn’t want to be inconvenienced by something over there in completely different systems,” he said. “I wouldn’t want to shut down something in this part of the state.”
Dave Gollon, co-owner of Gollon Bait & Fish Farm in Dodgeville, said a statewide ban won’t drive him out of business. His operation has “seen the handwriting on the wall” and stopped harvesting wild bait susceptible to VHS.
Chuck Thier of St. Germain is president of the Vilas County Lakes Association. His group passed a resolution a few months ago urging the DNR to quarantine any water body with the virus. He doesn’t understand how a statewide ban would inconvenience anyone.
“We’d like to see a real strong rule,” he said.
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