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Message Subject: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...
Mark Komo
Posted 1/27/2012 8:53 PM (#102429)
Subject: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Had a terrible time getting her to go this morning. Above freezing (barely), electronic choke working fine, just floods like crazy. I finally got her to go by having it tilted all the way up so the gas can drain from the carbs. Is there a float issue, or something I'm missing. Richness increased, but still tough.

Once she goes, she purrs sweet. But 25 minutes to get her started is just a bit much.

Any suggestions before I take her in.?
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trim-it-up
Posted 1/27/2012 9:16 PM (#102430 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Might not matter but I make sure motor is as level as I can get it. When tilted all the way down it is actually leaning back quite a bit. I know for sure if I have it tilted forward I struggle a little but nothing like your running into. She's mounted on a Tuffy 1890. Squeezing the ball ahead of starting it? I also make sure motor is level when doing that. I'm not a motor expert by no means. Just trying to help.
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Mark Komo
Posted 1/28/2012 6:34 AM (#102431 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Thanks for the tips. She was flooded so bad, I had to have the throttle at full so she would rumble slow then finally use up all the gas. There was a ton of gas in the water. Bulb is plenty hard. I think its the floats. They are funky.
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KHedquist
Posted 1/28/2012 7:05 AM (#102432 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Mark make sure your running Quikleen in your gas it makes a huge difference on the Pro Kicker, I notice it on mine.
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Mark Komo
Posted 1/28/2012 9:51 AM (#102434 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Yep, I run quickleen for the whole system, main motor too. Plugs look fine. Hoping I can figure something out. I also run the crap out it at high idle when I done for the day. Get this, its take same amount of time to start whether its August on Erie, or January on Quinte. So its not the cold.
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mrmodog
Posted 1/28/2012 10:58 AM (#102435 - in reply to #102434)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Did you ever pull your carb apart? I had the same issues with my ProKicker and found that the rubber 'tip' on the float needle had a very fine fiber hanging off of it. I pinched it off with a nail clippers and it has been perfect since. Might be something to check?
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stacker
Posted 1/28/2012 1:16 PM (#102437 - in reply to #102435)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Hey Komo

Its time to take it to a service center. That pro kicker should start right up. There is something wrong that you wont find.
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iceman35
Posted 1/30/2012 6:39 AM (#102460 - in reply to #102437)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Any modern small engine should start right up. before you take it to a service center, try the merc boards at BassBoatcentral. they've saved me $$$$!! lotta wrenchs lurking there! Next stop would be a service center. with that kicker mounted on the back of your love boat, its getting the crap shaken out of it going down the road!!
better yet, just load it up, head up to bass pro in Auburn and get a new one... easiest fix yet!! They got some good spring merc deals...
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guthook1
Posted 3/3/2012 10:35 AM (#102918 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


Try draining the float bowl if you are not using the motor for a couple of weeks.
The quality of the gas we are pumping nowdays might have something to do with it. "Old fuel" sitting in the bowl and fuel line seems to affect tthe smaller motors much more than the big motors.
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tim
Posted 3/3/2012 1:05 PM (#102920 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


there is nothing wrong with the motor. I what you said is true that it was just below freezing, the water was also very cold. The one thing about four strokes is that the do start good in the cold whether,but if the water is very cold the intakes cant handle this and the carb starts to try to suck in more fuel.The motor when you did get it started had to probably be at full throttle for it to even run at all correct. It's not the motor its the very cold air and water temps.
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Shep
Posted 3/5/2012 8:26 AM (#102932 - in reply to #102920)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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The carb doesn't know it's cold out. Not sure what intakes you are referring to.

I've run mine for years in temps down to single digits. Always started, and ran fine on full choke. It just took longer to get warm before you can take off the choke. Then it would idle down fine.

I agree on probably a dirty carb. It could also be the fuel pump just isn't pulling enough at low RPM's. That happened on my first one. New pump, all better.
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LurePresentation
Posted 3/5/2012 11:20 AM (#102935 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Shep, take it to an authorized mercury mechanic and get a tune up. Good luck with it and don't delay. Open water will be everywhere soon and the wall hanging walleyes are on the prowl!

Larry
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Shep
Posted 3/5/2012 2:08 PM (#102941 - in reply to #102935)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Larry, it's not mine. It's KOMO's. I think it's just rebelling because he's out in NY state! I think the motor just misses Bago!

Komo,

Are tyou only trying to use the electric starter? Once in a while if it doesn't kick right off, I'll use the pull rope, and then it fires right off.

Edited by Shep 3/5/2012 2:10 PM
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john mannerino
Posted 3/5/2012 5:57 PM (#102942 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Your float is stuck when that happens. There is dirt in there. A quick fix is to tap on side of the carb and it should be fine. Used to happen on my old 9.9, even with quickclean.
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eyetroller
Posted 3/5/2012 10:11 PM (#102946 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


HI MARK I AM A SMALL ENGINE TECHNICIAN .I BELIEVE YOUR PROBLEM IS PROBALY A DIRTY CARBURATOR THE ETHANOL FUEL IS BREAKING DOWN AFTER 30 DAYS I WOULD RECOMEND RUNNING PREMIUM FUEL OR USING A FUEL STABILIZER LIKE SEA FOAM.IF ITS FLOODING THE SEAT IS STUCK OPEN IN CARBURATOR PULL THE BOWL OFF AND LOOK FOR DEBRI HOPE THIS HELPS.
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LurePresentation
Posted 3/6/2012 11:08 PM (#102963 - in reply to #102941)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Shep - 3/5/2012 2:08 PM

Larry, it's not mine. It's KOMO's. I think it's just rebelling because he's out in NY state! I think the motor just misses Bago!

Komo,

Are tyou only trying to use the electric starter? Once in a while if it doesn't kick right off, I'll use the pull rope, and then it fires right off.


Opps, me bad, I typed in the wrong name! I think your right about the motor just misses Winnebago.

Larry
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iceman35
Posted 3/7/2012 6:38 AM (#102964 - in reply to #102963)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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I think Komo is frozen in the ice up to bay of quinte... still trying to get that 9.9 running...
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Mark Komo
Posted 3/7/2012 9:08 AM (#102966 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...



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Ha, no we made it back ok. Thanks for all the tips guys. I plan on taking the boat in for the usually spring check up. Kicker will be high on the list. I aways run a stabilizer and cleaner with every tankful. So, the gas may be ok.
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theviver
Posted 3/8/2012 7:45 PM (#102983 - in reply to #102966)
Subject: Re: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


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Komo,

I had a 2007 Pro Kicker that was a difficult start. I found if I pumped the bulb until it was hard and primed the crap out of it (~20 times) she would start right away.

Roy Vivian
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EricCO
Posted 3/16/2012 6:54 PM (#103117 - in reply to #102429)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


Drill out the brass cap that covers the idle mixture screw to allow for adjusting. Mine went from not running at all to purring like a kitten. 5400 feet alt.
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John G.
Posted 4/9/2012 12:22 PM (#103499 - in reply to #103117)
Subject: RE: 2010 Merc 9.9 kicker is just tough to start...


I second this. We do this all the time with new kickers at the shop when setting them up. It is a major factor for the cold starts being terrible.
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