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Location: Westland, Mich. | there was some info available recently about which colors can be seen at various depths. i'm starting my winter harness tying and wanted to put a few together in patters that i don't usually use. if anyone can direct me to this info i'd appreciate it. |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | http://www.kabukibaits.com/publications/walleyecolors.html |
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Location: Westland, Mich. | thank you! that's what i was looking for. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Sunlight is bent, or refracted by the water, and absorbed as heat energy in even the clearest waters. Red goes first, violet last. A rainbow is an example of how the light is broken down by water. Pretty dramatic, and that's through rain, not a solid layer! In 10' at 10AM 'sun time', a red lure looks very black. Add particulate, and there is even more of a decrease in color. Waves breaking up the surface and sky clarity also fall into the equasion.
A substantial amount of light is also reflected off the surface when the sun is not directly overhead, or at 'sun noon'.
Another consideration is the base color when trying to decide a color to use. Compound colors like green and orange are made up by mixing two colors. If the base color is red in an orange lure, then when light drops, it will appear more black. If the base color is yellow, as light drops the lure will appear grey.
Lots to consider! |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | I could be wrong, but I think white is visible even after the blue/violet end. It's technically not a "color", but it's color stays true and still appears deeper than others.
Edited by terroreyes 2/22/2004 4:41 PM
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| Now I just boaught one of those Aquavu cameras for 600 bucks and I can unequivocly say EVERYTHING DOWN THERE IS IN BLACK AND WHITE! LOL.
Rob |
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Location: Rhinelander | White light is the presence of all the colors. A white object is reflecting all available wavelengths, a black object is absorbing them all with no reflection. That is why a black sweatshirt will be warm on a sunny day and a white one not so warm, and much of the absorbed long wavelength light will be absorbed as heat energy while the white shirt reflects most of the energy.
A green sweatshirt reflects the compound yellow and blue, orange sweatshirt the red and yellow, and so on. The longer wavelengths are have lower available energy, and bent/absorbed by the water faster that the shigher energy short wavelengths. Very little color is available in the depths, so contrast becomes very important. |
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Ok sworrall, just got these baits back from Durst Products. How does this color compute?
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Location: Rhinelander | Red/white will be a top/dark, bottom/light contrast. Black and white and red and white have been favorites for years for a very good reason; that pattern catches fish. Under the conditions red is available in any amount, it is a good color on it's own. Black is always visible, as no color is reflected back so it contrasts against near everything. SInce red goes to dark grey and then black pretty quickly, that might be a factor here. |
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Ok! Since you like it, would be happy to loan you a few for the Merc! 
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| Carefull Steve, that Rick is a real wheeler dealer with a motive. He's willing to do anything within acceptable means to get the upper leg on his competitors. LOL  |
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Hey Jack, buddy, all I want is to know more about catching big walleyes! |
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | So that's the "secret" lure huh? From the amount of those two colors I've applied to custom lures lately, I'd say the cat's out of the bag.
Look real nice though. Like the eyes! Still would have done them for $5 with the scales and eyes. Confidentiality agreement included
Edited by terroreyes 2/24/2004 12:10 AM
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Location: Westland, Mich. | thanks you my friends for all the replies. all the information that you could want is in a book by Colin Kageyama, what fish see. i'll be ordering a copy from amazon soon.
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Location: Rhinelander | Another great book on the subject is 'Through the Fish's Eye'-- Mark Sosin and John Clark. It's an Outdoor Life Library book, and out of print. Hard to find but worth the search.
Here's a link to some of the best (dry, but best)reading out there.
http://www.wkap.nl/prod/s/FIFI
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Hey terroreyes, that Durst guy cut me a deal the first time we did business. So now I have a bit of loyality to overcome before I'd send you some baits for painting.
And that isn't my secret color! |
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Location: Rhinelander | Terroreyes,
I have a few repaints I need done on big muskie lures. Would you do those for me? |
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| I am curious about what happens to a blue jig in deep water. Is it the same shade blue I see on the top in the air? |
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Location: Rhinelander | Blue and violet penetrate the depths very well. Alot depends what the shade is, whether it is painted over a white base, and how much light is available because of the variables listed above. |
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