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terroreyes
Posted 6/22/2004 3:38 PM (#19965 - in reply to #19922)
Subject: RE: XPS keels modified.....Sweet!!


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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi		You could always use them as a cool-looking 3-way.
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Skeeter
Posted 6/22/2004 5:47 PM (#19977 - in reply to #19955)
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Location: Midland, MI 48642		I have to jump in on this one, the Bills have jumped on ole Dan off and on for a few yrs now since their friendship fell through. I think Dan will agree with me on this one. Probably know who it is. Anyway I have fished with Dan several times and he does know what he is doing and he is NOT afraid to share it with anyone. He has lived on the bay all his life and has been lucky enough to have had a dad who made sure he was taken out fishing on a very regular basis. He knows the bay and the rivers as far as that goes. Bill hope I didn't make you mad enough you won't buy any products from me but guess thats the way it goes. I don't jump in on these very often but this one got to me! Skeeter

Edited by Skeeter 6/22/2004 5:48 PM
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jerry
Posted 6/22/2004 6:07 PM (#19978 - in reply to #19861)
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Location: Manitowoc, WI		The "Bill" comments have been removed. Let's try to keep this civil, without name-calling. Thanks to everyone who comes here and makes a positive contribution.
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Risor39
Posted 6/22/2004 10:21 PM (#19991 - in reply to #19861)
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Location: Neenah Wi		We need more Dan's here and less Bill's.Keep em comin Dan.Thanks.I still don't see how you consider this the same as a 3 way rig.If a harness is attached to the back.What if you added a hook to the underside of an erie deary,would that be considered 2 baits?Most cranks have multiple hooks and are considered 1 bait.I just don't get it I guess.With a 3 way you have multiple lines running to the baits.Say I were to put 2 hooks in tandem attached to the xps in the rear would this still be 2 baits?I dont see the difference if you have a harness directly behind this.Sorry to keep going on about this but I would hate to see something this interesting be shelved because it was presummed illegal.

Edited by Risor39 6/22/2004 10:24 PM
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walleye express
Posted 6/23/2004 5:48 AM (#19996 - in reply to #19991)
Subject: RE: XPS keels modified.....Sweet!!



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.		Risor.

Even though my DNR buddy has not returned my e-mail yet, I'm thinking he will indeed say this rig is legal in Michigan. It's technically no different than running my sliders with crankbait in front as the diving lure. And I think the hinging factor will be that the belly hook is not attached rigidly to the lead.

After thinking for a while I came up with quit a list of lures that have the same configuration. All the blade baits including the Sonic, Cicada and Zip lures. And quit a few ice fishing concoctions, including Jig A Whoppers and a few Lunker lures they sell. And not to re-mention the Little George lure that's only missing the spinner blade at the tail end to totally look like this modified version of the keel. Or even the slabbing spoons used, like Hopkins and others.

But I'm also thinking (like one of the posts said), one officer could see it one way and the other see it different. I'm also thinking if pressed in court, and showing in what fasion and method you were using the the rig in question, you'd win the case. I'm hoping my bud's answer will be deffinet and have a most positive conclusion, as I'd prefer to avoid testing it's legality in court as well.

Edited by walleye express 6/23/2004 9:39 AM
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Brad B
Posted 6/23/2004 7:59 AM (#20000 - in reply to #19861)
Subject: RE: XPS keels modified.....Sweet!!


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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin		Risor/Dan -

The rig is legal, but it you have two separate baits/lures/hooks that are BOTH capable of catching a fish, you have two baits, not one. If Michigan allows two "baits", and you run a rig like this, one one rod would be legal.

The difference between a rapala with 3 trebles and a rig like this is that a rapala is still only one bait.
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walleye express
Posted 6/23/2004 9:36 AM (#20007 - in reply to #20000)
Subject: RE: XPS keels modified.....Sweet!!



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.		Brad.

I'll even take that further. On the St.Claire when whippen, your allowed three seperate pencil plugs, seperated but run in tandom one behind the other, and all wearing three trebles on each plug, while still being totally legal in Michigan.

My DNR bud is the main biologist on Lake Huron, so he's often running from one place to another in his district and may be away from his desk right now. I'd send the info and ask our DNR in general over their internet site, but I trust my bud to explore all the answers and for that matter the other questions that may apply, versus giving me the flippid yes or no answer.
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