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chris5150
Posted 7/25/2004 5:52 PM (#21215)
Subject: Graph Picture


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I have attached a picture of my Lowrance X-100C and I am wondering what the garbage in the middle of the picture is? I attaced one also of my X-67C and there is no clutter in the middle of that one. It does not seem to have a sharp of an image as I was expecting. Could there be something wrong with this?

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Chris


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sworrall
Posted 7/25/2004 7:07 PM (#21217 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture




Location: Rhinelander
Was there an algae bloom where you got that signal? What was the bottom composition? The unit definitely is returning an echo at the 5' to 6' line. Your other unit is set at 20', so the clutter or echo at 5 to 6 is incorporated in the surface clutter on the X-67; looks to me.
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chris5150
Posted 7/25/2004 8:15 PM (#21220 - in reply to #21217)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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There was an algae bloom, however, in parts of the lake that there was not an algae bloom, the same thing occured. When the unit is at 20', the same deal occurs. For what ever reason, this graph will not show decent bottom at 20 mph, where the X-67C did. Any other suggestions?

Edited by chris5150 7/25/2004 8:23 PM
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Rick Larson
Posted 7/25/2004 8:50 PM (#21222 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



Lower the sensitivity until it is diminished.
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irishwebs
Posted 7/25/2004 9:33 PM (#21223 - in reply to #21222)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



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Location: Kaukauna WI
I have a great doc that talks on how to use your graft from Lowrance email it to me and it may help on how to set it up for max effenciently.

Michael Dutton
[email protected]
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Richfish
Posted 7/25/2004 10:53 PM (#21226 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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Location: Milw, WI
That is a second echo.
Turn the power down till it is gone.
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sworrall
Posted 7/26/2004 1:05 AM (#21227 - in reply to #21226)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture




Location: Rhinelander
If the unit isn't giving you a good picture over 20 MPH 9 out of 10 times that is the transducer placement. Is the transducer in the same place the X67 was? Make sure it's clear of rivet lines, or anything else that would disturb the flow of water over the face as the boat moves forward. Make sure the back of the transducer is tipped down a few degrees, too.

Did the clutter remain at 5 to 6', or was it consistently in the middle of the screen no matter what depth scale the unit was displaying?
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walleye mike
Posted 7/26/2004 7:11 AM (#21228 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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Location: Northern Illinois
For anyone interested, the Lowrance DOC that Irishwebs is speaking of; is great. Excellant tutorial on using and tuning the Lowrance. Much more easy and more complete than Lowrance User Manuals. Walleye mike
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chris5150
Posted 7/26/2004 7:39 AM (#21229 - in reply to #21227)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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I will try turning it down a bit (the power). It is at about 68% on that picture. Every other Lowrance unit I have had, X67c, X-85 would all run at about 70%-78% depending on conditions. I will also turn the transducer down a few degrees and will report back with what I see. I will post a picture on Wed.

Thanks again. Chris
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Erie
Posted 7/26/2004 11:58 AM (#21244 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



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Location: shores of Indian lake, Ohio
-just a quick thought ... but it almost looks like a return that I get when I run over a mudline current flow with clear water blown/rolled over top on the surface.

I messed with my x15 ducer placement/angles alot on my lund till I was satisfied with a wot display on calm water, but when it gets bumpy -lol



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Rob Stratton
Posted 7/26/2004 12:22 PM (#21245 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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So where can we find this tutorial?
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sworrall
Posted 7/27/2004 8:47 AM (#21263 - in reply to #21245)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture




Location: Rhinelander
I agree, it may be the sensitivity is set too high; is the unit running on Auto?
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chris5150
Posted 7/27/2004 9:51 AM (#21265 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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No, I run all my units on manual. I will be out on Wed. and will report back then.

Thanks for your help everyone. Chris
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irishwebs
Posted 7/27/2004 10:23 AM (#21266 - in reply to #21265)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



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Location: Kaukauna WI
Rob Email me I have the file you are looking for and will gladly send it to you

Edited by irishwebs 7/27/2004 10:24 AM
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chris5150
Posted 7/29/2004 7:36 AM (#21322 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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Well, I was out again last night and after some tinkering with the transducer, and turning the sensitivity down, same result. The 2nd echo finally went away when the graph started to lose bottom, around 20%. What do you guys feel I should replace 1st, the unit or the transducer? Lowrance told me to try the unit on another trasducer, or put a different unit on my transducer, but I don't know anyone who has this unit or one of the units that use this transducer.

Thanks for your help.....Chris
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irishwebs
Posted 7/29/2004 8:35 AM (#21325 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



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Location: Kaukauna WI


I was thinking of this problem and thought of this ideal. You have done a tons of ajusting correct? so before you start changing units or transducers put it back to manufatures original settings and see what the unit does.

Go to system set up and you find it there as a choice.
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Shep
Posted 7/29/2004 9:37 AM (#21330 - in reply to #21325)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture



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Swap the X100 and the 67C. The connectors should be the same. I'm not so sure that is a second echo. When I get a second echo on my X-15, it is usually below the bottom.
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chris5150
Posted 7/29/2004 11:19 AM (#21336 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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Just got off the phone w/ Lowrance. After they looked at the pic's, they are next day airing a brand new unit and transducer. They were not sure which one it was causing the problem so they are sending both.

Thanks for everyones input. Chris
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chris5150
Posted 8/3/2004 9:17 AM (#21465 - in reply to #21215)
Subject: RE: Graph Picture


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Got the new one in and it works great. Great picture and great sensitivity. It ended up being the unit and not the transducer. Was out on Sunday and was able to pick up fish at 22 mph on the gps.

Thanks to all who replied. Chris
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