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Jonny Rocket
Posted 9/20/2004 4:13 PM (#22739 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !



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Location: Combined Locks, WI
This is just what I was told, but when salt disolves it releases oxygen into the water.


Stacker,

You are right in that situation the "Survivor" won't do much good, but by having the "Survivor" on and working you are making sure the fish survive the ride back and you at least have a chance to keep them alive. Without the "Survivor" your fish may not even make it back on a hot day. This is just a preventitive measure that will help you get the jump on fish survival. I was one of them that lost fish floating in that bay. You can ask my co angler when we got back our fish were very lively, it was the warm water and whatever else was in the bay that did the fish in. Also the last holding tank prior to going on stage was very warm water and probably should have been changed every so often or cooled down. After leaving the stage we put the fish in the live release tank and all of my fish righted themselves and swam but that was too late as the deductuion already was set. That water was chilled down ( I felt it and it was much cooler than my livewell and the holding tanks.) I would love to see every boat with a "Survivor" on it. If nothing else it shows we are at the vary least trying to save fish for live release.

Y-Not,

Let me know if you need anything when talking with the DNR as I would love to help and give them some examples or stories about how this product helps save fish.


Jon Piette NPAA #294

Edited by crestliner 9/20/2004 4:18 PM
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stacker
Posted 9/20/2004 4:42 PM (#22740 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !


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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin
Crestliner

I believe that is exactly what I said, the survivor works while running. Perfect. But like I also said, lets not start making rules to add more gadgets to your boat, to cure what common sense should have.

No Bob, I am not calling your product "Just a gadget".
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tyee
Posted 9/20/2004 8:07 PM (#22745 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !



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There are going to be rules for tournaments regarding livewells and I think anything that helps the survival should be a mechanism that is promoted and supported by both the organizations and the State as a means of improving the quality of these tournamnets. As for WI venturing into new territory with this, I think the only thing they are concerned about is the best possible way to keep these fish alive, currently the regulations are governed by the tournament organizers and many if not all of them require a livewell of sorts. What the State is looking to do is incorporate that as possibly a "law" or rule that is required. Usually state regs are much less restrictive than what is required by the professional organizations. If there are devices out there that improve this even more, I would expect these manufacturers to be anxious to "get the word out" about them. It would be nice to have one group or place to go to, to find out about them. It would be great to have a list of manufacturers that make devices of this nature for the ever expanding competative angler environment. I expanded my post before about the possible "incentive" for live fish to those anglers rather than having it be percieved as a (negative) or a "penalty" for a dead fish. The open ended statement was intended to raise discussion as to what manufacturers or organizers could do to spur the positive rather than the negative! Y-Not, I have been on the road and will be in touch.
Good Luck
Tyee
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y-not
Posted 9/21/2004 7:43 AM (#22757 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !


sounds great tyee! i`m looking forward to our conversation. you have really hit the mark with your thoughts on LIVE FISH INCENTIVES. not the DEAD FISH PENALTY RULE thats been around for ages. it`s time for a change, and with the available products out there like the SURVIVOR. hopefully tournaments and the anglers that fish them will become much more recieved by the public, when the public it`s self can see that the tournament organizers and the tournament angler along with the every day fisherman/woman are doing every thing possible to keep these priceless fish alive. this isn`t really that big of an effort for any one when looking at the big picture is it ? any tournament organization that would adopt this would and will be the shinning heroes in the industry.if any one would like to call us and talk openly about this topic please feel free to do so we can be reached at 262-644-5337. thank you all very much. take care---robert
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Sunshine
Posted 9/21/2004 8:48 AM (#22761 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !



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I was at that RCL where some fish turned south. My fish stayed perfectly healthy because I had the foresight to shut down all water intake while still out on the lake and then aerated the water consatantly WITHOUT adding water.I agree that just like most things, common sense will rule. I remember commenting to my Co-angler that day, that many fish would die because I saw people pumping in water from the bay.

I'd also like to add that newer boats like my 04 Lund Pro V 1900 already have water pick up on the fly. This has saved me fish on very long runs because I set it so water is constantly coming and livewell is always full. On hot days, I run the aerator constantly, again, common sence.

I just wanted to clear the air.................... Not ALL fish died at RCL, but way too many did and it's sad. It could have been prevented. Many of the boaters did not use common sence or what I thought was common knowledge in this type of situation. Let's hope everyone learned from this situation including the RCL who should have explained this techniques at the rules interp meeting. They need to remember that there are a lot of people fishing this series who do not have a lot of experience.
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stacker
Posted 9/21/2004 12:27 PM (#22764 - in reply to #22542)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !


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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin
Sunshine, I think you so nailed this on the head. Alot of the inexperienced had no clue what to do to take care of thier fish correctly before weigh-in. I hope they don't promote a band-aid fix for something that won't stop most of the problems anyhow.
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guest
Posted 9/24/2004 12:21 PM (#22867 - in reply to #22764)
Subject: RE: Keeping Your Fish Alive !


There must be some more ideas out there, come on folks........
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