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Location: Elgin, Illinois | I found a source for plastic willow cats... (Mad Toms)...
http://www.backwatersonline.com/category.cfm?Category=506 |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Thanks Greg,
They look very interesting for the Miss.
Any river rats use these? |
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Location: Berlin | They look like a great alternative to gut wrenching pain shooting up your arms! |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Dennis,
I have used (live ones) them on the Mississippi, Genoa... LaCrosse, DuBuque... They are very successful. The "gut wrenching pain" mentioned is very true... some people react very badly to being "horned" (top fins) by them... They even make a special plastic basket/net for retrieving them from the minnow bucket and hooking them on... I wear a thick...very thick rubber glove... |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Yea Greg,
I knew about the superiority of the live ones. That's why I'm interested in knowing if anyone has tried these plastic ones.
They look great in the pict |
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| A couple of things to take into condsideration. #1 "NO SLIME". That slime coming off the kitty is mighty impotant. # 2, no "STRUGGLE" for that kitty trying to bury itself under a rock. #3 the size of the kitty can make a "BIG" difference on any given day. As far as the glove goes, that's VOO-DOO in my boat - "SLIME". The more times you get stung the less it hurts. So the best thing to do Greg is stick your hand in the bucket and swirll it around vigorusley each time you fish with em. By the end of the season it won't even hurt to get stung. Just kiddin buddy. I have some of these and they do look pretty darn life-like. Not trying to give the product a bad name or review, but for me they have never produced. Hutch Did I mention "SLIME" |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Thanks Hutch,
I was hoping you'd give your opinion. Sounds like we need a vendor to come out with a willow cat scent. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | Greg, You know first hand my feelings about willowcats. I hand was paralized for 3 hours durring a tourney in lacrosse a couple of years ago. And you wanted to do one of those tracheotamies on me. That was the last time I touched them. I also think they lack the slime and wiggle, thats what makes them work. I will try them again this year because of the money that was won by them last year.
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Hutch,
You weren't in the boat with John when he got stung... I had no idea of the vocabulary available from your local plumber.... LOL
The producer of these plastic mad toms, Case plastic, has a "salt" variety... I'm checking to see if the vendor I found sells the salted ones...
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | John,
Are you fishing the GNWC (Wisconsin) at La Crosse in April (17th) ? |
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Location: Kaukauna WI | Okay I have some saw them in travels and pick up couple colors. How do th guys that have used them do a hook set on this plastic Willow Cat? |
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| Lift the rod tip in a short quick motion.  Have you hooked any of these to see how they work in the water? Your input is greatly valued. Thanks! |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Mike,
I've been told to try to put them on a long shank hook with the hook point coming up behind the dorsal fin... It has the added benefit of being somewhat "weedless" hooked that way. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Greg,
do you mean a long shanked Jig hook?
how is it weighted?
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Location: Chicago IL. | Yes Greg, Alot of people heard some new words on the river that day. I1m not sure about the gnwc in lacrosse and albany yet. But most likely I will be in both. John |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Dennis,
Yeah, it was suggested that you use a long shanked lead head jig hook... Basically like a grub/twister tail... |
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Location: Kaukauna WI | Lund Dude
No I have not ever tried them I bought them 2 years ago and had them in box until this last week when I found them on a selve. I will think of using them this spring on few trips to Red Wings I am planing on. |
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| Thans for the inof. I was curious how they looked in the water. Are you going to Red Wing with Sunshine? |
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Location: Lake City MN | I have been useing them for the last couple of years here on pools 4 and 5 with mixed results. I have boated some really nice fish on them in the past, but it has always been on days when other plastics work equally as well. I really don't think that they are the magic bullet that there live counterparts can be. As mentioned above, the slime and struggle plays a huge part. Now if you could bottle willow cat slime I think you would really have something. Hats off to anyone who can commercially de-slime willow cats and live to tell the tale.
Loren Waalkens
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Loren,
Were the ones you used the "salted" or unsalted variety? And, I agree that plastics don't entice walleyes the way that plastics entice big green carp (bass...lol)... But, I have had very good results with Berkley Gulp worms on days when crawlers were the thing to use... And the Gulp worked better because it was more durable... |
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Location: Lake City MN | The plastic cats that I have used were scented but not salted, what scent I could'nt tell you. I am a huge believer in salted baits for bass, the more salt the better. As far as walleyes I like scented plastics but have not found salt to make the difference that it does for smallies and LM.
Loren Waalkens
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