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Wallize
Posted 9/21/2005 8:32 AM (#36063)
Subject: Weed Bite in October


Anyone else fish heavy cabbage edges on the smaller lakes in October? I have a pattern that seems to do pretty well for me fishing the edges after dark. No one else seems to do that here in Wisconsin and I do really well. Anyone else casting jigs and cranks after dark on the cabbage edges late October to ice up?
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Nofish
Posted 9/21/2005 6:39 PM (#36080 - in reply to #36063)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October



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Location: Menominee MI, In Da UP Eh?
Shhhhhhhhh!

Some of us do, we are just savy enough not to tell the world.......

Seriously though, there are several lakes around SE Wis that I used to prowl for those fish...still looking for some good ones round here....
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sworrall
Posted 9/25/2005 1:49 PM (#36143 - in reply to #36080)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October




Location: Rhinelander
I do very well on the lakes in this area on the deeper cabbage edges tossing a jig and plastic that's over 7" long after turnover in the late fall. Big walleyes eat creatures!
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walleye mike
Posted 9/27/2005 3:22 AM (#36177 - in reply to #36063)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October


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Location: Northern Illinois
WOW Steve, that reminds me of the "creature" craze during the 70's. I think Fishing Facts, and guys like Spence Petros and Tony Portancaso Magazine strongly endorsed this approach for most toothy fish. Lots of fish where caught with the oversize plastic approach.
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mjd22
Posted 9/27/2005 6:49 AM (#36179 - in reply to #36143)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October


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When you talk about creatures what style have you had success with? There is about a million different styles out there. How do you rig them up? I know some nice green cabbage weedlines in northern Wi and the U.P. that I would love to try this tatic out on.
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sworrall
Posted 9/27/2005 7:48 AM (#36182 - in reply to #36179)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October




Location: Rhinelander
I designed a few creatures during that timeframe, and actually had a tackle company selling them. Jim Cairnes and I designed a paddle tail style that I eventually sold to Moores Lures. Stembridge Products produced my first Creature design, under the Fliptail brand.

My Dad was responsible for the first stand up jig head back in the early 60's. Tony Portincaso, Larry Latino, and Jim were regulars at the house in Wauconda, and worked with my Dad on new jigs and plastics. During a trip to Arkansas, my Dad met Harold Ensley, who had designed the Reaper. He was having a tough time getting any sold, but it looked great to my Dad and he bought a big bag of them in brown. That lure on the jigs he and the others designed on our kitchen table started an entirely new way to fish bass and muskies, and walleyes too.

We were using Fliptail Lizards and Reapers, but both had a weakness. The Lizard after one pike usually had no tail, and the Reaper tore easily on the hook. Shelly Cairnes was sitting in the boat on Enterprise Lake, if I remember correctly, looking at ruined Reapers and Lizards, and decided to try melting the 'good' parts together using a lighter. Reaper tail, Fliptail body, and the Creature was born. The name came from Steve Quandt, owner of Tuffy Boats back then, who looked at my assortment of odd looking plastics and asked, " What sort of creatures are those?" Fliptail did a design for me, and Jim and I worked up several over the years. The Fliptail has always been my favorite for 'Eyes. Tony and Larry's modification of my Dad's and Jim's diamond head jig was the Power Head; it's still on the market.

I use a spinning rod in a medium heavy rated for 17# monofilament line. !4# is plenty to pop the weeds, but I'm not just fishing 'eyes, so I use 17 most of the time. I don't like the superlines for this, because I set the hook to quickly with that stuff and miss alot of strikes. I use a 60# seven strand leader, a 1/4 to 1/3 ounce jig, and superglue a crerature body to the jig head for durability. The heavier gear is fro ripping/popping the lure through the weeds. Cast it out, always with the wind so one can watch the line. Let it hit bottom, point the rod at the lure, and reel fast one and a half turns of the reel handle, watch the line, and the second it 'bows' repeat. Easy stuff. I've taken some really nice walleyes that way, and some REALLY nice Muskies, Pike, and Bass. It's a very efective presentation after dark, too.

Here's a couple photos of the old product I used to sell in the 70's and early 80's, and an old stringer picture from 1978, I think. I am looking forward to the turnover, that's when the big fish move into those bays on Pelican and Minocqua, and the fun begins. Thanks for the memory jog, this was fun.


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mjd22
Posted 9/28/2005 2:04 PM (#36227 - in reply to #36182)
Subject: RE: Weed Bite in October


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Wow ! That's some good stuff Steve. I love the stories of guys sitting down at the kitchen table and coming up with new and exciting tackle ideas and then following through with them. I'm excited to try this tatic out on some of my favorite cabbage patches in the north woods. Thanks for your help. Does any place carry these anymore or something similar?
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