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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | A question and my answer to it that I took off another board. Feel free to offer any other suggestions, as this particular fishery is probably the less known, explored or written about as far as walleye fishing goes.
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I have been receiving reports that walleye are being taken by shore casters,
here in the Cleveland ares.
I went out last night to the CEI plant fishing pier at East Lake. I was there about 2 hours. The other 2 fishermen that were there were catching lots of tiny shad. (All fowl hooked on the stick baits) but NO walleye.
According to the other fishermen, it's a hit or miss situation, as the bottom is very flat and smooth with almost no structure to hold the fish. So they,
the walleye, come in feed on the shad and move out again.
The entire time I was there, the birds where feeding on the shad, and there were "billions" of them in the water.
From what I am hearing, the fish are still being taken to the west around 72nd Street.
So, it looks as if I will be making a road trip tonight, to check out the action there. Will post results tomorrow, upon my return.
Until then tight lines and good fishing. Shu.
Shu.
I have a night trip planned myself for tonight on the Saginaw River. We mainly troll with Shad Raps, but do fan cast with #14 Rapala Husky Jerks in certain places. The strategy and technique we use when casting, could possibly help you catch a few fish in your area. With so many baifish crowded into this area your fishing, getting the attention of any specific feeding walleye in that area is going to be tough. Especially when your offering is artificial versus the magnitude of the real thing available. Your offerings have to stick out, be seen and heard better then the real deal in those conditions.
Try to fish the full moon phases like we're in now, or stay and cast near any artifical light sources coming from the banks or docks. Cast and retrieve near and/or along the shadow edges of these light sources, as well as any edges, shorelines or other dead ends that allow the walleyes to push baitfish into a corner. Keep your offerings shallow when retreaving. Real slow as you give them slight rip and stall motions, make it an easier target and to more imitate an already wounded or dying shad near the surface. I like and have the best success on the Tenessee Shad color in the #14 Husky Jerk. But if the water your fishing is couldy, pick up a few in Fire Tiger or other brighter colors. Make your offering stick out more in the crowd, and you'll get more strikes. Trust me.
Edited by walleye express 11/6/2006 8:33 AM
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| We also fish for walleye at night from the bank. The river we fish has very clear water, and at night, walleye will move into the shallows to feed. Essentially, we are sight fishing with cranks. Lots of fun! |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Just got in from my trip tonight on the river. I have another trip tomorrow morning early with clients, so I'm just going to post a picture of the first fish out of the dozen walleyes we caught after dark tonight. I learned a couple of different and new techniques both this afternoon and tonight on the river that I'll come back and share with you guys tomorrow after my trip.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Got up a little early this morning before my charter trip, so I have some time to explain what I learned new yesterday and last night on the river. When we pushed off yesterday from the ramp and started downstream we could see a boat maybe 40 yards ahead in the middle of the river that had a decent fish on. We watched as they netted about a 19 incher. Then by the time we got to them they netted another about the same size. As we passed them I noticed they were anchored, yet they were vertical jigging and not using the regular technique of slipping the current. I thought this strange being they had an electric on the front of their boat, but dismissed it as a couple of newbies to the fishing game.
Eventually we started fishing a run about 100 yards long and soon discovered that the river was not only low, but had a very slow flow rate indeed. I took us almost the better part of an hour to drift down this 100 yards stretch with the current. And while we were doing so, we kept watching this other boat downstream hauling in one fish after the other. We were also having luck and boated 15 to 17 sub-legal walleyes ourselves as we drifted ever nearer this boat. We were doing so because he to was anchored and vertical jigging. When we got right next to this boat the guy asked how we were doing. I said good but no keepers. He then told me they had been anchored there for 3 hours and had caught about 50 walleyes but only 3 keepers. Then he said they fished there yesterday, used all of their 9 dozen minnows and caught over 100 walleyes with only 6 of them being keepers.
I guess what this proves to me is that the fish are moving upstream big time and that drifting along to intercept them really isn't necessary, as the fish themselves are moving to you. Of course I think if there was any current of any kind, anchoring and vertical jigging simply would not work. But with the way things are right now, them boys taught me something yesterday that I would not have thought of or ever tried. The guys I'm taking this morning want to learn the slipping the current and vertical jigging technique, so I probably won't get the chance to try this (anchored vertical jigging) technique today. But sure won't forget what I learned about it yesterday.
Now the second thing I learned yesterday. As darkness fell on the river last night, we switched over to Shad Raps and started trolling. We hit all of my favorite spots under the bridges and along the shore lines that have artificial light sources. Never had so much as a touch in 1 1/2 hours and was ready to call it a night when an idea hit me. With so many fish in the river, why couldn't we get anything to go? We could see loads of baitfish working the surface from the light on the water, yet zip for action. The water visibility was close to 4 feet, so maybe it was to light and the water to clear. Maybe the advantage the walleyes have at night wasn't as strategic in these conditions, and they were holding/feeding in darker waters. So I told my buddy we have to fish in darker areas tonight. Places away from the bridges and lights. So we slipped down river to a dark flats area of about 10 FOW. We switched over to Glow in the Dark #9 Raps and made our first pass. Bang....fish on. For the first 3 passes we boated 2 fish on every pass, trolling both up and downstream, and these were not the dinks we caught earlier while vertical jigging. We kept a one man limit of decent fish in the 17 to 23 inch range and released 2 that were pressing 7 pounds. All in all, a very enlightening (no pun intended) trip to say the least.
Edited by walleye express 11/7/2006 6:01 AM
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| wow, not even a mention of a daves lure???? David will like this one |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | hmmmmm - 11/8/2006 7:43 AM
wow, not even a mention of a daves lure???? David will like this one
I'm trying to get into the habbit of simply ignoring posts like this and the other one you put on my other post. It's easy when you simply talk Sh** about me, as I'm finally starting to understand the mentality of your type. But please refrain from bashing the good name of Dave Storm if you would be so kind. If I had caught the fish on Daves Lures I would say so without hesitation. But I didn't, so won't say I did. Shouldn't you get back to moderating that other board? Or isn't there as much traffic since I left?  |
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Location: Neenah Wi | He would'nt know a good crankbait if it hit him in the head Dan.Probably would'nt feel it either.Brainless basher. |
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| What some people dont know Dan is that David at one time was a designer for Normark/Storm. So alot of the ideas he brought to the table are still visible in some of todays most popular baits. This post proves that yet another guide does not lie about what he is catching fish on...If I'm not catching fish on my sponsors lures they dont want me to lie about it and say I am, thats a very poor buisness decision. Dont worry about this guy, he shops in the 1.99 clearance bin for his cranks, quality is no issue. To Mrs Hmmmm keep hiding behind the Hmmmm, guides like Mr. Manyen and myself will keep hiding behind a different prefix...CAPT. |
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| It's not about you personally, It's about your success. Usually, these comments come from the no-fish catching visitors. Instead of working on their own walleye fishing program, they find ways to criticize others success. Don't worry, it won't take away from the great information we get from your posts.
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| Yes, it is true that I did design lures for Storm both while my family owned the company and while I was employed by Normark/Rapala. Thank you for mentioning that I do have a talent for designing crankbaits, and that although I do have my own company now, much of my experience and talent has come from being around a great lure designer all of my life!
I expect anyone who posts fishing reports on any board to be honest about their techinques. It doesn't bother me in the least that Capt. Dan or any other of my supporters use other baits! I don't make baits that necessarily perform like certain other baits out there. If I had a bait that Dan or anyone else had confidence in casting for night 'eyes, then I am sure people like Dan would be writing about them! There are many instances where one of my lures may outfish another and vice-versa! In fact, it helps me when I read posts about people (including my supporters) using other baits successfully! It helps me to get ideas and to learn what is working for anglers in certain fishing situations.
I commend honesty and have the utmost respect for anyone associated with my company who are honest in their reporting. I wish I was with Dan catching those walleyes even if I had to use a Rapala to catch them! |
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Location: Rhinelander | Dan,
I apologize for missing this one. If I had seen that remark it would have been gone. I think the fellow has been corrected though, and all is well. Thanks for being truthful and to the point! |
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