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| There seems to be an aweful lot of confusion between confidence and networking. Perhaps a few would like to contribute regarding networking.
Ever notice how the most successful "networks" or teams are either best friends or related? I think trust is the most key element in any team or network. It takes years to build trust, yet only an ounce of suspicion to destory that trust. |
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| Should someone in "The Network", or "Team" win the competition, I always wondered how the prize money was split up, since everyone contributed to that individual winning the tournament. |
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| The most successful teams share info, and money. It's the only way to do it. It helps too, if they are friends, I suppose. Absolute trust is required. You report the good with the bad. Once that trust is broken, that team mate is probably history.
Teams do keep track of where other teams are fishing, and how, during the prefish, and to a point, during the tourney. I seen teams so occupied with what another good team was doing before the first day launch, it took them right out of any hope of winning the tourney, or even doing well. They were beat before they started. |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | If I had someone working my net, I wouldn't have missed that hawg last month. If your nets not working, buy a new one! LOL! Sorry Jayman, just trying to lightin things up a bit. I believe networking can be beneficial for the most part. As it was said before, you can cover a lot of water with more than one boat. However, trust can come into play at times. Especially when you are talking a lot of money. You have to be discreet and also honest to be in a network and expect it to last or work for you. If you only have a limited amount of time to pre-fish, networking definitely helps. I wish I had a network. Jayman, you interested? |
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| HUMAN NATURE you are a day or two drive from home and friends . you cant tell me that there is one individual on the pwt or flw that can make it threw the season being at a place for 6 to 8 days without talking or getting to know another competitor. it is human nature to net work at least a little . you get off the water hang with a couple friend over dinner. other names spots fish counts weather conditions and forcast . what .. your gonna tell me they all go to the hotel get the gear ready for the next day and lock them selves in there room. your kidding me .. for the guys who fish the smaller torunament and cercuits thats half of the reason for competion . you need somone to share it with. poeple who have the same intrest. last year i was on a small school of fish . another boat rolled up pulled a couple walleyes and got on the phone. abour 20 minits later i had two more boats on a strait line power down on my spot .. and a friendly wave . networking is fine by me .. cheeting is onother story. this was not a pwt. or an flw. but it was a tourny of about 300 boats. be safe and be ethical tight lines . |
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| I think most people would be surprised to find that at least 90% of pros fishing the PWT and the FLW are part of a network/team/alliance or whatever you want to call it. To go into these tournaments blind without a team to work with puts you at a significant disadvantage. There is a lot of water to cover, many techniques to try ans o much fine tuning it takes to win, that one person can almost never have a chance. That being said, there are times when it is a disadvantage to be part of a team. There have been times when a team member finds the fish to win, but there's not enough of them to go around and it has been the team's downfall. This is a complcated subject and you will probably not find anyone to give you much info because some of the techniques that help these teams do well are closely guarded.
Yes, trust is a huge issue. Most teams share a percentage of the money with the other teammates, which helps the trust factor. But you wouldn't really be on a team with someone you didn't trust to begin with, and if they broke that trust it wouldn't last long. The idea is to push the teammate who has the best chance as high as possible so everyone can share in the big check. You got a jig bite that you think can win the tournament.... then you put your best jigger there. When he is done, the next guy moves in, etc. There are many ways to do this, and the best teams are doing very well at it. There are some times that I see three out of a five-man team in the top ten, and most people have no idea that they are working together. |
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| Yup alot of teams but its funny some never win or even place in the money  |
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Location: Darboy USA | Thanks for the insight FLW guest. Very interesting, but not too surprising actually. Just like anything else, business, sports, whatever, you put your best person in the front based on technique, skill, athleticism, etc.
Human nature to want to be the best at what you are doing so obviously the team thing helps reach that goal as far as winning a tournament or certain amount of money.
I would think it's gotta be hard for FLW and PWT rookies to break into the network unless they are related, or am I off base on that assesment? Not saying those people don't belong, such as Chase Parsons who is a great fisherman in his own right, but having his dad and Keith to work with has to be a great benefit.
How hard is it to get into a network for young pros? |
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| Teams I am familiar with split it so whatever amount an individual wins, he keeps half, the other guys (team members) split the other half. I know of a team that had 3 guys in the top 5 in one PWT event. (Do the math).
However, it's "every man for himself" in the Championship with the teams I am refering to. |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Darboy, It's very hard for the new pro's to hook up with the networks, unless you know someone. Coming into last season, I knew no one, so in essence I was not working with anybody. I have met some people, and unless some big names would want me on their teams, I will most likely stay by myself. Now wyh would any of the big names want me on their teams? for one They don't know me, I havn't proven myself, and since they don't know me, how can they trust me. Trust plays a big part in the networking.
I knew a few months ago that we would be going to Francis Case. I stated doing my homework then. My harddrive crashed and i lost tons of info on Francis Case, for the time we will be there. I will have to start all over.
I like doing things by myself, I have a hard time trusting people. Will it be harder for someone like myse;f to do it by myslef, you bet ya.
Of course the first tournament is 4 months away. Alot could change in that time frame. |
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Location: upper michigan | Eric you say that you didnt prove yourself you qualified for the championship with out a network didnt you. If that is proveing yourself then what is. |
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Location: upper michigan | sorry it was saposed to say if that isn't proveing youself. |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Butch, you must have me confused with someone else. I didn't make the championship. I needed a top 25 to make the championship, in Escanaba. But, I had to withdraw from that tournament. I had to have back surgery on 3 herniated disks. After alot of the gusy ahead of me had a bad tournament, I don't even think I needed the top 25. i wanted to fish that tournament really bad, but ididn't think it would be fair to my co-angler to jusst go out and find calm water to sit in. I wouldn't have been able to make the runs they were making in those waves.
That's why I can't wait until this year, that is why I said I have to prove myself.
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