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| I think that the main thing that needs to be done is to advertise better. I have spoke to many people at the boat launch during the week that didn't even know there was a FLW walleye league. Maybe take out a spot on ESPN and/or the outdoor channel. Even go to some of the outdoor shows.
I think one way that might help is to show up at some of the ramps during the peek spring time. For example, have a few guys at Turtle Creek (Ohio, lake Erie) and Fenwick the first of April and hand out info there. There are many people that put in those ramps to fish the reefs. This will help get the word out. |
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| I didn't look at the actual numbers. Just went from what I remembered. I thought the Pete was full. Oh well. I thought Oconto actually was 95? Still, way better fields here.
Didn't rally give the MI much thought when I suggested it. But I agree. Something has to be done to get better attendance in MN and MI, and get the last 7 -12 spots filled here. |
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Location: Appleton wi | I'd like to see a later starting time like 8-4 or 9-5. There to much emphasis on ealy bite when sometimes the best bite is between 11-2pm plus it will give the hung over anglers a chance to sober up before jumping in the boat!lol  |
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| A lot of good discussion about the bump tanks here, my recomendation would be to go to the same format as the PWT, and bump our fish in our boats and then we wouldn't get penalized for something that is out of our hands.
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| I agree 100% with Tomich. Call them alive or dead in the boat. Also, on the Tour side, I don't agree with the top league angler from each state to be allowed to fish the Championship. The expenses the tour guys incur compared to the expenses of the league guys in significant. Yet, once you are in the championship you have just as good of chance as anyone to win.
On both the league and tour side I think there should be a cash incentive to the top 10 overall towards AOY, atleast the top 5. We all know how hard it is to finish well overall. |
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| I wouldn't blame the Tour guys one bit for being a tad miffed at the League guys. The FLW did something hugely positive for the League at a very small expense of the Tour.
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | Dave, Tomich, do you think it was the league guys that got the spots opened up at the championship, or do you think it was the FLW trying to gain some excitement to fish the League events? Simple marketing, HOWEVER, If the league winners go, and get treated like trash, and come home to tell about there experience, who do you think it will hurt?
Short term entrys in the league, yep, but long term, it will be the tour. There are many guys who are preparing themselfs for the final step. If the league goes away, there will be nothing in the respects of circuits for a guy to prepare unless it is a team event and his partner is just along for the ride.
If everyone is really trying to grow this sport, they will understand what the reasoning is behind this. If you are in it for your own self satisfaction, then, well, that is the answers that have been given by the anon.
P.S. This worked very well for B.A.S.S. |
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| I believe the anon user "I agree" is a proponent of the "good ole boys network" too.
As a tour guy having played the game well enough to make the Championship the last thing I think they should be worried about is 3 "novices" coming to compete from the league. If you are, chances are you're not a serious contender.
If the cost is the only factor then it would only make sense for some of the tour guys to drop down and fish the leagues and be an easy shoe in for the championship.
I agree with Stacker, the BFL/FLW and BASS are great examples of how well this has worked. Get on board. |
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Location: Appleton wi | Jerry the one thing i would like to see is flw contacting some of the boaters/non boaters who have fished the majority of the events or all of them like i have and ask us our opinion on changes.Last year they made some changes and prior to announcing these changes there was talk among us but nobody from flw ask my opinion or anyone else i know who fished the circuit. Wouldnt it make more sense to get general census among the bread and butter anglers out there after all it is within there best interest to keep the anglers they have . just a thought  |
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| I've had some lengthly discussions about "my next step" which I believe the League was intended for and targeted at the "weekend warrior". Quite frankly it doesn't work!
There are too many amature circuits out there that just get you bragging rights at the local tavern. It would be awesome to have a walleye "local club" format. I'm no tourney director but this would really work and I sincerely think you could get Irwin and the PWT to support it.
If your looking for ideas the model exists in the Bass Federation and there are a lot of things that could be done to improve on that as well.
I'm sure there are enough of us out there that could form say 10 clubs to send a team or two to a "big show" possibly a sponsor would foot the bill to send each winner of that event to a PWT or FLW event as a boater!
Heres a simple set-up for 200 people around Winnebago!
10 clubs
10 boats per club
12 events
50.00 sole Membership=$1000.00
20.00 4 hour weeknight fishing event weekly 75% to winner each week. 25% to regionals.
Winning boat each club goes to the regionals for free!
1400.00 entry fee to the regionals thats ten boats fighting for $14,000. at the end of June!
No teams/No Networking!!!!!
One week your a boater one week your a co!
No Pre-fishing!!!!!!!!!!
No discussing the big show event 14 days prior with ANYONE.!!!!!!
All fish released immediately after measured, photographed and recorded by your co-angler. so-long culling issue!
NOW THATS A TOURNEY!
Good Luck
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| Coming from way out west-Sundays are a finally get home day after traveling for 2 days each direction-lets leave format the way it is for the fishermen who don't live in wis and only have to drive a few hours to get to tourn location instead of 24 hrs to Detroit or Escanaba. |
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-Sunday Tournaments
-Monetary awards for top 3 Pros and Cos for the year in points (Possibly offer Free entry into next year's League events for 1st, 2 out of three entries paid for 2nd and 1 out of three for third..Currently awarding everyone regardless of their finishing place in the top 25
-Big Fish payout top 3 each event
-Co's have the opportunity to bring "some" equipment (jigging rods, particular baits, personal USCG life vests etc) aboard at the discretion of the boater after the rules meeting-If they say no then it's no.period.
-Lines per person regulations per state regs
-mandatory $25-$50 per co for gas-bait etc $25 minimum-$50 max -that's not much for the opportunity to learn and be basically guided for a days fishing...oh yeah, you can also win $ too!
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| Jayman, I am not a proponent of the good ole boys club, just stating the facts. Guys on Tour are not happy with the fact that they are letting anglers in the championship through the league. I understand the reason the FLW does it and it makes good marketing sense. However, I do agree that it is not fair to the tour guys.
Come on out to Cleveland and ask around, the anglers will tell you what they think of it. The league guys will not be treated any different than any other angler, but that doesn't mean the anglers agree with the rule. |
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | Why would anybody care "how" someone else got to the Championship? Unless you believe you have a shot at beating every other angler who is going to show up YOU shouldn't be there... Just my 2 and 1/4 cents... inflation you know! |
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Location: Fremont, Wisconsin | How about they start a stair step effect. Just like a stren series in bass they start a mid range series. 750 entry 100 boats 4 events from michigan to minnesota. league winners go to stren championship and stren champ goes to tour. This way the tour guys will only need to worry about 1 fisherman to beat instead of 3. Also make the stren a 2 day event with no cut to make. |
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| Only the pro and co other than a camara person in the boat. Nothing against pets but a tournament where a co has paid money to enter, and is in position to win a substantial amount of money, he does not need to be babysitting the pro's pet. |
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| Mt just to keep the facts straight in this winless discusion. The tour coanglers that make the championship do not pay entry fee and trust me the little amount of money you have spend this year fishing as a co angler is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the three boaters from there respective state have put into this year. The 3 boater earned there way to the tour by winning and placing high where as you(if you were fortunate enough to make it to the tour championship )were just lucky to have drawn great pro's during the season who have put you in this position.Good luck to all |
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| Guest, so the pro did all the work???? Excuse me oh might one, I've been in a few boats where the co got the pro to the top of the pile many times....keeep piling it on....it looks good on you!
Good luck
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| Had to comment, too much late night time on my hands.
As a FLW pro I have no issues with the top league boaters making it to the championship. None of the other Pro guys I've spoken to have had an issue with it either,
THose anglers earned their way in based on the the criteria set-up prior to the seasons start, fair for everyone. If you recall the original FLW had 225 to 250 entrants. A large portion of this was from those that didn't fish any FLW event but qualified thru an approved circuit.
The goal, get better, get more people and increase payouts for everyone.
Was every step they took the way everyone wanted, not neccesarily but, they got the job done and still are progressing.
I think it will elevate all the circuits, competition breeds excellence!
TIght Lines
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