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Location: Arlington, WI | Rich S, Sunshine, and anyone else,
I have a quick question. With regard to the weights on the dropper, it is mentioned to use a bell sinker but if you go to the various bait shops in the valley they all sell/promote the use of pencil weights. Preference? I would think that a bell sinker would have more drag in the current and would have an increased tendency to snag compared to the pencil weight. Either way, I am excited to give this a try on the Wisconsin River and the Mighty Mississippi.
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| I use pencil weights. I carry several sizes, depending on the current and depth I am fishing.
I'll defer to Rich, though. If he says bell, then I may switch to them.
Hey Rich, did Dave punch you in the arm today? |
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Location: DeForest, WI | bdirks,
Where you gonna try pulling the flies around here? I see you are in Arlington. I was so intrigued by this up on the wolf this year. I bought a new rod just for doing this.
Sunshine had a great post about the rod type earlier in the year that fired me up to the point I had to buy a 7' rig. The warden (wife) didn't like the $300 spent but she has now got over that. Now she needs to get over the purchase of a new rig.
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Location: Arlington, WI | Hey Boxman,
I have wanted to try this technique for a while. I saw my first fly at Critter's in Winneconne and I asked myself, "If it works on the Wolf, why not the Mississippi or the Wisconsin (Dells, PdS, or the inlet into Lk WI)?" The techniques seems to be alot like rip jigging, similar to what they do on Mille Lacs.
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| I started out using bell sinkers on my fly rigs. But I'm a man of percentages and have since switched to jigs for the dropper. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | i for one have not tried this yet.. seen it done and have worked live bait in a similar way but could someone snap a pic of a few of these flys so when i get to the local bait shop i know what to grab... i would also like to tie some up over the winter and if there are a few variations that would be cool . or if there not worth building is there someone outthere making some goodones thanks a bunch,, |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | The Fly setup works anywhere there is current and I believe that if people used them more on lakes we would here the success stories there too (anyone using them on lakes?)
After using them on the Wolf, I have tried them on other river systems and can tell you they work.
As far as weight, I believe that the bell sinker makes more of a disturbance on the bootm and this can normally be a good thing. Fish may be attracted to the the cloud of sand or muck that the bell sinker creates when hitting the bottom so they come and check it out. When they do, they see your fly and eat it. I'll confess that I often use the pencil weights in snaggy areas but believe what I just wrote about the bell sinker.
Jayman has a great idea about using a jig instead. This works if it is not too snaggy and you have large enough jigs for the current. Just remember that you can not use this setup on both rods in Wisconsin. A maximum of 3 hooks may be used so one rod needs the weight. I almost always have two rods working this setup unless the action is too good or tournament rules prohibit.
I would say that the action I give the fly setup is not as severe as what I do when rip jigging. It's more of steady pull than a rip. But I can imagine that there are times when you could actually use a jig only on one rod while using the fly setup on another and have success while using the same pull/rip.
Edited by Sunshine 9/10/2007 11:34 AM
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| Dennis, I've seen some minimal success on lakes ('Bago specifically) with the fly. Done in a fashion where it was casted out and then "snap jigged" back to the boat. But it was on rocks where it seemed like a bare hook mihgt of worked too.
Also, the jig and fly. I ALWAYS run double flys on the rig. So one rod put's me at the WI limit.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Thanks Jason |
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Location: DeForest, WI | I figured Sunshine would find this post and reply.
You have a good explanation in the Wisconsin River section of this site if I remember correctly.
Very good Info.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | fishfur commented on this subject in another thread saying he was confused with what ripping jigs and flies was. I thought that it would be beneficial for us to keep this going and help him and others out. I'm a little short on time right now but will start and hope others chime in.
Most people drag or hop their jigs when fishing. This process moves your offering in a slow methodical pace. Rip jigging goes after the reaction bite from fish. The offering is faster and much more aggressive. Many people use their electric trolling motor or gas kicker to move the boat while "ripping" their rod forward and then following the line back on the fall with their rod to detect a hit.
Now it's someone else's turn. I'll report back later. |
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