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| Does anyone out there troll for walleye using a bigger lead ball that clips on to your line like a snap weight, and if so can you give me some info on what size ball to use and how to acheive certain depths with it? I wanted to try it running 800 series reef runners in 20 to 40ft of water at about 1.8 mph. Thanks for any help. |
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| Leadballs are more used for Salmon fishing, if you want to get a 800 reef runner down 20 ft no lead required, if you want 40 ft down, let out 20 clip on 2 oz let out to 185, you'll be scraping bottom in 40FOW. We do it all the time on Erie, another way is to use a BPS Inline fish weight, 4-6 ft leader. Run it til you hit bottom give it two cranks put the board on and send it out. |
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| I want to run it close to the boat on my inside lines and only have about 50 ft out that way I can pull my planner boards in over it. |
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| How many boards are you running? I run my highest baits the furthest out, two reasons, high fish that I'm targeting are less likey to bite close to the boat as they are moving away from it and 2 so I can bring my outside line in over my inside line. If you need any help getting your outside in without disrupting your inside line, let the board drop back out of place behind your deeper inside line then crank it in behind the boat, once you get it cranked in some it will clear your inside without snagging your deep line. If you still have issues run a 3 oz snap weight so the dive curve is more straight down closer to your bait but 20 ft is usually sufficient.
I don't see any major difference in a round lead ball to a snap weight except the shape, as far as Ounces go and how deep the bait is getting.. sometimes a little old playing around on a flat at whatever speed you want to run with whatever bait you want to run will work, keep letting line out till you bang bottom, record what you just did and develop your own dive curve with the 800's and the given lead ball or snap weight in whatever weight you have on your line. Can't argue with results of your own.
The trolling bible has some rule of thumbs when it comes to snap weighting cranks. |
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| I was on a charter that was using this system for his inside lines and they where hitting pretty good. The lead ball was about the size of a golf ball. I should have asked about it but I had already asked a ton of questions trying to learn. Anyways we caught 16 nice walleye with at least 14 over 20 inches, biggest was 27. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Was this Charter with Finaddict out of Cedar River, MI? |
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| yes, he did a great job getting us some fish. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | He is using an 8oz ball.
I think it was 30' then the ball, then another 20'. The hump off Cedar tops out at around 26'.
Are you Pikeman on that board too? |
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| yes, I don't fish out by the cedar, only go as far south as the ford. Do you do any fishing up here?
Edited by pikeman1 9/25/2008 4:49 PM
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Location: Green Bay, WI | I've been out of Cedar the last two falls but with gas prices, I'm trying to duplicate that pattern down here.
I do make it up to Esky at least once on the ice and with the season being open into March, I've got to make it up there then, even with gas prices. |
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| hey. the best way to get your bait to that exact depth is get yourself the trollers bible and use downriggers. figure out exactly how deep that lure runs with 50 ft. out, then hook line to ball. ball will be way above lure as to not spook fish. if lure runs 18 ft. with 50 ft. of line out, lure will be 18 ft. below ball. also i use 3 oz. snap weights off large planers running 6 lines there plus the 2 downriggers. using shad raps i let out 50 ft. put weight on, let out to 135 ft. total on linecounter. this runs the rap at about 42 to 47 ft. very speed dependant. |
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| Pikeman-
Feel free to contact me on my cell or by email if you want more info and variations on the "lead ball trick."
Befishin-
Get ahold of me when your heading up to Esky this winter and I'll give you some current info on the bite. I should be fishing about every weekend if all goes as planned!
Capt. Jim McDonald |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Jim,
It's great to "hear" from you. I missed your reports from Cedar but I can understand how your successful reports create a lot of extra traffic for you.
I will give you a call this winter. You have a way of lowering that learning curve. I guess that's why you teach! |
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