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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Brother Dave and I hit the Bay this morning, but got a late start because of the fog. Trolled lead core down the river to the bay (nothing) and then went at (half plane) speed west towards the Crib. Our plan was one short troll North to South down the crib and then hit a few spots for perch. First 45 minutes went by un-eventfull and we were about to pull lines when a (Capt. Dan Custom Bomber) in Fire Perch flavor on Daves side went back. Nice 3 pounder. I change one of my cranks over to the second and last Capt.Dan FireTiger Bomber Dave has and 10 minutes later that inside rod bounces and the board is almost pulled under. Another 4 pounder comes to net. Long story short, 6 rips/4 fish on the FireTiger in 45 minutes but only landed the 2. They were hitting the cranks very short and all the fish had beer bellies and seemed gorged with baitfish.
Fished for perch for about an hour. Caught about 60 or so with the biggest one being about 7 inches long. Could not use 2 rods it was that fast. All went back.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Yup, that's a walleye all right. And his beer belly is hidden like most are when laying on your stomach. Hard to tell exactly how big he is in the background. Not fond of those pictures where your thumb looks like it weighs 4 pounds next to the fish. But next to your posted comparison picture he's a monster. 
Here's pictures of a few little one's we caught last year just for you stud. 
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| Dan,
Are you finding the tighter wobble longer baits are the ticket this time of the year vs he shad style baits? Or is this a sustainable patter most of the year in your waters.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jim Ordway - 11/1/2011 12:36 PM
Dan,
Are you finding the tighter wobble longer baits are the ticket this time of the year vs he shad style baits? Or is this a sustainable patter most of the year in your waters.
Take care,
Jim O
Absolutley Jim.
Especially around here. The Bombers have been in vogue spring and fall for going on 4 years now. Reef Runners and other diving style cranks can work but run to deep for most of the inner Bays water depth. Hell, we're only running these shallow running bombers back 13 to 15 Feet behind the boards in most areas and situations we're fishing now.
As for self promotion that's really funny. These 2 fish yesterday were the first ones I finally caught on any of the 6 custom colors I helped Franks make up using my name on them. And I thought when you promote something and people actually buy that product, your were supposed to get a residule check in the mail. Haven't seen mine yet. 
Or maybe I should send Steve a residule check for all the charter business I've gotten off this site on the last 15 years. I think I will. Steve look for that check with all the zero's on it to arrive in the next couple of days. And I mean ALL ZERO'S.
But don't worry guys. With the almost total lac of basic fishing reports and pictures posted on this site now, mostly because of these no-name loosers, I will keep posting usefull reports, information and pictures of small/all fish I happen to catch.
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | Dan, Have you ever tried to run those diving baits short behind boards like you're doing with the Bombers? One of my best producing techniques for the fall Detroit River/Erie bite the last few years has been to run deep 800 Reef Runners 15-20 feet behind boards in shallow water. I'll run them 15' back over 7FOW and have no issues, besides the occasional board popping off with the short lead.
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | terroreyes - 11/2/2011 7:53 AM
Dan, Have you ever tried to run those diving baits short behind boards like you're doing with the Bombers?
Ya, the brother is the one who does most of the experimenting with the divers in that shallow water when the fish are not biting as fast as he likes. Mostly T-Stick Juniors. And admittedly he's caught a few. But day in or day out, either the shallow Bombers or shallow Yo-Zuris shine in 7 FOW or less. Might have something to do with the wider side to side wiggle and roll both lures have over divers. We even find and catch walleyes in waters shallower then 4 feet during the early spring or late fall.
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| Nice reports! Sounds like an awesome fishery. |
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Thank you for your kind comments and support guys.
And I'd like to say one last thing about what some are not seeing in or about this post. Because Steve probably (and rightfully so) dusted it. I'm talking about the senseless slams, insults and innuendos that seem to be evident on every single post now days on to many fishing boards. Even when a guy simply asks about any new FLW tournament dates for 2012 he's made to look the fool. What the hell is going on? Have our lives become so much like chit, that we have to make sure everybody else's is as well? Even the guys trying to share what was only a good time and maybe help some others not as proficient catch some fish.
IMO a big part of why this continues to happen is that (few if any) others on the boards are to scared to stick up for anybody, fearing the slams will then be aimed at them. Is anybody else tired of this BS? We have a knowledge base on this board that rivals none, yet few bother anymore to share it because of these Jealous, Bored trouble makers. I'm convienced that some, maybe most of these trouble makers do not even fish. Just feel better when they can chit on your driveway.
When I started viewing and sharing fishing information on this board many years ago, a good fishing report post with pictures would only stay at the top of the board for maybe 2 days and then many others, by many good fishermen would push it down quickly. Now I have to check my computer or hit refresh a few times to see if it has somehow frozen in time, as the same post stays there for days or even weeks between tournaments.
I know that virtually all you guys feel the same way I do about this. The slammers have stolen our site and the (all inclusive) policies of the board allow and will not change that. And I'm not slamming the policies of this board. This board is not mine, nor does any of this happen on my local /personal board. Because when you cause trouble or slam somebody, your IP is traced and you are gone/blocked permanently, post haste. But maybe, just maybe sticking up for both the little/new guy and the professional alike on this board when these parasites smell blood in the water would stop much of this.
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Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | I agree. Things aren't the same any more. Not just here, not just fishing, but everywhere. We're becoming a hateful and spiteful society!! |
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| I like your reports you share allot more info than some of the other reports I read which are nothing more than a big fish picture or 2 and saying they caught these fish on Lake X? with a fishing pole and bait, you are obviously confident enough to share more info, big deal if you catching on a certain lure at least you share this with others! |
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| At times I think things have gotten worse, but I recall we have been dealing with dopes for many years. I, as many, appreciate reports and new ideas. Keep them coming.
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Location: Berlin | Dan, I feel your pain. I think the overall excitement about fishing and tournaments has declined greatly. I also think the message board has run its course and what you see now is about it. I am not talking about just this site but all of them. I also think the powers that be recognize this and that is why you see them moving in other directions. I would be willing to bet the majority of the traffic here is not on the message board which is what makes this such a great site. The fact there is so much great info here in video's, articles etc.
As for the haters, I have been around since the beginning and have a few unpopular ideas. One of which I will keep to myself but the other is that this sport has chewed up and spit out its fair share of people. Some of them are very bitter. I have met several in person and understand their feelings. They "vent" sometimes on the message boards. It is easy because there is no consequence. In the real world you get put in your place when you step out of line.
The good 'ole days are evolving Dan. Try to roll with it the best you can. In 5 years from now we will refer to now as the good 'ole days. |
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Location: Rhinelander | 'I would be willing to bet the majority of the traffic here is not on the message board which is what makes this such a great site. The fact there is so much great info here in video's, articles etc. '
Agreed. We offer the boards for folks to interact, and take no end of heat for carefully moderating same. Probably costs us quite a bit of traffic here on the board, but doesn't hurt our numbers at all in the long run. Dan, your content here is great. I read every entry with interest, and sometimes even feel as if I was able to experience the enjoyment of your trip from my desk.
This place is, has been, and always will be about news and information of the day about our sport. |
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Location: Neenah, WI | Hey Dan, don't fret over things you can't control. I like your posts and gain valuable tips from them. I'm a Winnabago guy but I've logged more than a few hours on Saginaw Bay. Awesome place to fish with lots of nice people. Frank's Great Outdoors is always at the top of our list. We've bought our share of custom colors there. Jack and Diane at the Northland have always made us feel at home, especially when they put on a fish fry for all the tourney guys there.
Keep up the good work.
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| Dan, Keep up the good work.
That being said, The Next Bite Website has everyone register and log in before they can post. They must also sign their real name to each post. You cannot post as a guest.
Seems like a good idea to me. Keeps the rifraff from slamming people.
The calendar says November. Anyone been out on the Wolf targeting Walleyes? Tis the season! |
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| Stick bait the fish are finally moving got a limit on sat and then on tuesday the fish were running bigger then expected had 5 over 18 I release anything over 18 one fat 26 unheard of for this water and this time just lucked out will be in the hahn a lulu tourney this weekend will post more info |
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Location: Rhinelander | Don't care what other websites do. We moderate this one based on a 11 year model that's working very well, and have no plans to ever force registration. |
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| Dan, keep the info and reports coming. If I was 1000 miles closer, I'd be in the pics with ya! might send some lures to ya too for paint.
I was actually gonna have a great report for here on the tuffy board, caught schooling smallmouth, walleye wed. after work like crazy right by my house, maybe 40 bass and walleye in about 4 hours... thurs got the boat (and a camera!!) nice day, after work, got to the ramp, they pulled the plug, couldn't launch!!
Since I've hijacked the thread, interesting scenario here... local river closed (lock and dams) , due to hurricane and tropical storm. One stretch fishable every once in awhile, depending on repairs to Dam. Blueback herrring trapped in a few stretchs on there run back to the ocean. zillions of them. bass, walleye and birds going nuts. Ocean like feeding frenzy's...
quite disappointed, went home, bought beer... crappy trip...
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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Thank's Iceman.
But let me clear up a couple of things. I do have an airbrush and do paint a few lures and blades for myself, but these were contracted and painted by somebody else who paints all of Franks Custom colored lures. The color scheme ideas on these lures were mine and the tag name O.K.'d by me for Franks to use, but that's all.
The other thing is that IMV this site at it's base is different and a notch above the many others in one big regard. It's first and main mission is to cover walleye tournaments in a thorough and professional manner, while advertising, sharing and dispensing information about the people and the products they used when doing so. This fishing message board and included software (I'm assuming) was secondary to the main page as it is/was on my board.
The advertising on this board I'm sure supports pretty much all the work, equipment, travel, funds and time needed to keep this board a viable resource. So I understand the reasons to stay all inclusive to the general public as far as access to any of it's features goes. This of course does not support or give credence to people who treat others and their helpful fishing posts like crap. And IMO the quick removal of these personal attack posts has improved on this board in recent years.
My fishing board and some other sites can be viewed by anybody, does not support any advertising, but can only be posted on by it's registered members. Their are advantages to this type board as well, as you are free to ask simple questions, talk about every and all competitive products freely and fairly without fear of reprisals or removals of honest/objective posts concerning products or manufacturers advertsing on that site by it's moderators. Nor do you get continued ignorant slams from guys hidden behind a Guest name.
But to be totally fair, this board has allowed fair and honest debates and criticisms of products and manufacturers it advertises for to a high degree since I can remember. So I guess the only bad thing about the all inclusive boards are the small number of jerks who continue to lurk around and keep others (Novice and Pro's alike) from freely asking, sharing or helping both the beginner and professionals alike catch more walleyes.
That's why I think sticking together and sticking up more for the guys who contribute when this happens is as much a deterant as asking for memberships. By not doing so, it invites and encourages more of the same.
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