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TattooTom
Posted 10/20/2012 3:30 PM (#106663)
Subject: Anchoring


I fish out of a deep V alumicraft. Last week we tried to anchor off a point for some walleyes. The wind kept moving us. Any suggestions?
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Mud Duck
Posted 10/20/2012 5:30 PM (#106669 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: RE: Anchoring



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28 lb. navy anchor, about 3 ft. of chain, long rope, works for my 20 ft. Tuffy, don't do a lot of anchoring but has worked for me in strong winds and heavy current, never used a drop-n-stay but I hear good things
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walleye express
Posted 10/21/2012 7:40 PM (#106708 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay.
Not sure you would need a 28 pound anchor. But having a length of chain in front of it makes all the difference in the world. We use my 9 pound Danforth Standard Fluke type with 6 foot of chain in front to anchor in the St.Claire River. Usually in 19 to 22 feet of water with about a 9 to 14 knot current and she holds fine.

Edited by walleye express 10/21/2012 7:40 PM
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Mud Duck
Posted 10/22/2012 5:11 PM (#106733 - in reply to #106669)
Subject: RE: Anchoring



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Sure like my 28 lb. Navy anchor for fishing wing dams and current on the Mississippi. Has worked well anchoring in strong winds on Devils and Winnebago as well. I want to make sure when I throw the hook, we stick. Different strokes for different folks, but will stay with the big hook until someone shows me something better. Besides, pulling it in several times a day gives my son a nice workout!
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KHedquist
Posted 10/22/2012 5:20 PM (#106734 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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I guess for me a Fluke Style anchor has worked well everywhere. I think the ke is to have enough rope. The Drop N Stay was a great add on they dont make them anymore but if you can find one get it.
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KHedquist
Posted 10/22/2012 5:35 PM (#106736 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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Oh yah check this link to Doc Samson's website he has some great articles on anchoring
http://www.hightechfishing.com/btips.html
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Shep
Posted 10/23/2012 10:53 AM (#106767 - in reply to #106736)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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Alot depends on the makeup of the bottom. Sand? Rock? Boulders? Mud? Current? Wind?

I always used a big Navy Anchor for most situations. Added the Drop N Stay, and that was all I ever needed. Switched to a big Richter when I got my 1890 Tuffry, and that with the Frop N Stay became my anchoring system. No need for the chain, just plenty of rope, and the Drop N Stay.

My Drop N Stays did not go with my boat. I got them locked up in my gun cabinet!
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Rich S
Posted 10/23/2012 12:01 PM (#106769 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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You need a 5:1 scope ratio so 20' of water you will need 100' of rope. Add a chain and you can reduce that by 30' or so depending on bottom type. Get hollow core rope. It is expensive but stretches and you can usually drop the scope down to 3:1 even without the chain. The drop-n-stay added stretch to remove the shock to your anchor. The hollow core rope will do the same but not to the extent of the drop-n-stay.

For an anchor, it all depends on the bottom type. They all have their good and bad points. Richter, water spike, danforth and navy are all good.

Just to give you an idea on anchor pull, we tested a 20' fiberglass 620 Ranger in 2-3'ers by attaching a scale to the cleat and then attached the anchor rope to the scale. We saw a maximum of 130lbs of pressure on the anchor. That is a LOT and now you know why the anchor does not hold. A shock absorber can bring that down to 30-40lbs. It makes a huge difference.
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Guest
Posted 10/25/2012 6:08 AM (#106895 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: RE: Anchoring


Good stuff guys. Where can I get hollow core rope?
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KHedquist
Posted 10/25/2012 6:12 AM (#106897 - in reply to #106895)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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Yep I have Drop N Stays under lock and key also!

Hollow core rope...http://www.novabraid.com/rope/construction/hollow.html

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Guest
Posted 10/26/2012 5:54 AM (#107000 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: RE: Anchoring


Thanks!
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Rich S
Posted 10/26/2012 8:20 AM (#107012 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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I got mine at West Marine. It is expensive but well worth it.
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KHedquist
Posted 10/26/2012 8:23 AM (#107014 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring



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Sure Rich what do you know about anchors, did you consult with David yet?
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Rich S
Posted 10/26/2012 8:28 AM (#107016 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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lol, we just finished with our weekly board meeting :D
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Weevil
Posted 11/11/2012 12:01 PM (#107334 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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How does the chain help?
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Rich S
Posted 11/18/2012 9:58 AM (#107415 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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An anchor will hold best with the pull being as close to parallel with the bottom as possible. That is why the 5:1 scope is there. There more line you let out the closer to parallel it gets. The chain lays on the bottom and when it gets pulled it still remains close to parallel. It also adds additional weight which helps and will not be damaged by rocks, zebra muscles etc.
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bago-guy
Posted 12/14/2012 8:19 AM (#107588 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: RE: Anchoring


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I would buy an Anchor Shock. I own a drop and stay but they are no longer made. I saw this add on TV the other day and it looks to be a product that will solve your anchoring issues now that drop and stay is gone.
www.anchorshock.com
Chad
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Walleye Sandwich
Posted 12/16/2012 5:15 PM (#107605 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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Drop and Stay Deuce for me with a 28# navy. Keeps my Skeeter in place on Bago.
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walleyefishing101
Posted 1/7/2013 3:19 PM (#107792 - in reply to #106663)
Subject: Re: Anchoring


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I've used the anchor shock a few times this past year as well and couldn't be happier with the results.
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Shep
Posted 1/9/2013 1:16 PM (#107820 - in reply to #107792)
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Drop 'n Stay. Often immitated, never duplicated.
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