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| I like your analysis although a "certified" livewell would only be effective if it was able to keep a certain temp. Even a timed circulating well would only take surface temp water which can be much warmer than where the fish came from. Without being able to maintain temps walleyes would be in danger in the later summer months. There is no doubt that tournament anglers do everything they can to release a live fish but nontheless if culling were allowed a dead fish would be released before a live one of similar size because of penalties.
As for the everyday angler not in a tournament, culling would be detrimental beyond comprehension in my opinion. I have seen many a angler catch their limit in a very short time. The added pressure to the fishery with culling would only result in more fish being hooked and potentially killed. Are there enough anglers out there to affect the resource? Maybe not in some areas but others would definately be affected. I know a number of people that get limits daily and they feed many. This would only give them the opportunity to do more harm.
As for tourney culling vs. culling for all. I am against anything that gives one group more access to the resource than any other.
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Location: Milw, WI | Well stated Tyee.
Also there are devices out there that use electroisys to bring pure oxygen to the live well .
Seprating the H2O in to H H, and O.
This raises the amout of oxygen in the water and the fish can breath easyier, better that in the lake.
Go to an oxygen bar once and you will see what it is like for a human.
These should be added to those good live wells to make them even better.
During your long runs water is not refreshed and the pumps for recurculation do rasie the temp some as the water passing
through is the coolant.
Also the water drawn in is from the surface layer , which at most times is the warmest water.
Your your Idea about temp control is seconded.
Edited by Richfish 5/29/2004 7:24 PM
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Location: Elgin, Illinois | If a 12 volt cooler is around $50.00 a "cooler" for the livewell should be a reasonable price... As I said, culling should not be for only tournament anglers... But for anybody with a "certified" livewell... I can see a brisk business in retrofitting them.
Furthermore, no one has addressed my argument that in places like the Illinois River (actually almost all of Illinois except for possibly some specific lake restrictions) where culling is allowed; good resource management has created a better fishery despite severe pressure and culling. I think good targeted resource management has more of an affect that broad general rules. |
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Illinois River Saugers caught in early spring have far less to worry about than walleyes pulled from deep water out of Green Bay in July.
Listen Greg, some water ecosystems may be good candidates to allow culling, but many are very poor candidates. Adding in badly hooked and poorly treated fish, and to me, it's just not worth the chance.
In the end, what we must consider is: is it worth destroying fish to allow larger stringers (of fish) to go home to fill freezers and heavier weights to go across the scales for someone's profit.
Please consider carefully as this is the public's resource.
Edited by Rick Larson 5/30/2004 11:42 AM
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Location: Milw, WI | The Illinois River has a major stocking program that relies on the tournaments for the egg collection.
Mainly the MWC spring valley event.
Also river sauger are some tough dudes.
Alot / 98% of the places I fish have no stocking, it is all natural reproduction.
Il river gets pounded spring and fall, what about mid summer?
It would be interesting to see how many of those fish make it back in the river after the whole ordeal.
I have seen no reports on this aspect of the program.
And if any go through it more than once.
And what is the natual hatch rate in the river.
Walleye taken from deeper water that need "fizzing", would need the livewells
to be decompression tanks to increase there survival rate.
There is a point where caught at depth, all fish should be kept.
Ice fishing and open water fishing.
Catch and donate out at RCL on Eire.
2 years back went to canada in july, all the other guys were fishing lake trout.
They were getting 2-5 lb lakers at the rate of 70-80 fish a day each.
The limit was 2 per day.
The shallowest fish caught came from 70 ft.
They did not under stand why so many were being taken buy seagulls after a quick release.
And no matter how many times I explained it the LaBlaz would not let in sink in that it should
be closed season for lakers at that time of year.
"Well they always made it in the spring when we usally go."
In the spring and fall it almost seems like the fish are indestructable.
I have walleyes living in a pond that were on a stringer all evening,
road home 1 hour and 45 mins in a bucket with no water in the trunk.
And are still living in that pond today.
But in summer , riding in a live well with resurc. pump( that keeps them alive on the 5.5 hour ride from the family cottage),they can not make the ride home from Lakes 30 mins away.
Time of year/ water temp/ fish depth all have a great deal to do with the rate of survival.
And river fish, any river fish is tougher.
Edited by Richfish 5/29/2004 11:11 PM
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