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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | One of the few perks I get from being a Charter Captain, is that I sometimes get a sampler package in the mail from maufacturers wanting me to try their products. Some of these are things I'll never use. Some are made for species of fish that I don't or have quit fishing for. Today (out of the blue) I received quit a large box of lures and components. This manufacturer is located in Boise Idaho and the lures target specie is Salmon, Lake Trout, Steelhead, Redfish, Wahoo, Tuna, Pike and Stripers. Anything that would eat a squid. Their called "Chuckle Head" wiggle action squid baits, and (in my opinion) have some real potential for Salmon/Lake trout fishermen on the Great Lakes. They eliminate the need for a Dodger or Huchie Mama and impart a wiggle action on your squid, fly or cut bait. They also sent a few packages of what is called "WiggleFin II Action Discs". These are what makes the lures mentioned above wiggle, but you can use them on anything you want to. And if you know me, I'm always looking for a new fishing angle to try. These Wiggle Discs have some real possibilities for walleye fishing. I'm thinking making up a few with a plane crawler harnesses (minus the blades) and using them as sliders next year. I'm including a picture and the web site showing what I'm talking about. http://www.wigglefin.com Edited by walleye express 10/23/2004 4:51 PM Attachments ---------------- sal-master[1].gif (15KB - 151 downloads) | ||
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| hgmeyer |
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Member Posts: 794 Location: Elgin, Illinois | Heck... That looks so good I'd eat it.... Must be a great bait... I buy them all... Thaks for the heads up Dan.... Seriously, I do like the way it "wiggles".... The attachments might just be handy... Thanks for the contact info (for the company). Edited by hgmeyer 10/24/2004 12:41 PM | ||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | From the man who brought you Capt: Dan's Spoon Harness Rigs, here it is. Capt: Dans Hoochie Coochie Harnesses. Using the components that were sent to me from the WiggleFin company in Boise, Idaho the other day, I transformed them into what just might be some real walleye killers for next spring/summer. As you can see, I kinda trimmed up the rubber squids to make a little colorful head, along with re-tieing the leader with 20# and 2 #4 mustads. Also tied a plain beaded harness to bait and run behind the simple wiggle discs. These I'm thinking would make good sliders. Either one would run great behind a bottom bouncer, keel sinkers or other weighted attachments. And being lighter than a plane crawler harness, the weed bed possibilites are very interesting. Now look again at the attachment above with the lizard in it. Now immagine that swimming action and a juicy crawler attached to the two #4 mustads on the rigs I made up here. I actually attached a 6" gulp worm to the rig after I made up the first one, and tub tested it. I think it's going to be a winner. The bigger wiggle discs I used, seem to come in lots of walleye catching colors. I don't know, have talked to, or have ever met the owner of this company, but sure am glad he chose me to send some free stuff to. Maybe he's familiar with my (mad scientist) mentality when it comes to fishing lures. Edited by walleye express 10/26/2004 4:45 PM Attachments ---------------- Hoochies..jpg (61KB - 188 downloads) | ||
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| seerad |
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Member Posts: 39 Location: Mt Prospect, IL | It looks enticing. I think a real crawler might shred easily with that kind of action though. Just a thought.---seerad | ||
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| JLDII |
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Member Posts: 714 | That diffinetly has a good look to it. Obviously it will catch fishermen, and I dare say it will probably catch fish as well. I wonder how much vibration it gives off cutting thru the water?? You could add to that vibration by placing a bead or two and a blade in front of it, and space it up the line a little ways with the use of a string slip bobber stop. Another idea, which is probably more practical would be to add a couple of those Northland "Rattle Beads" between the disc and the hook. They would definetly get a good shaking, thats for sure. I might have to give those a try while I'm smallie fishing. Drop rate is so important, that I would have to guess that you could put a worm hook and your choice of plastic on a line with that disc ahead of it, a small split shot ahead of the disc, and it would have a slower drop speed and some nice action also! | ||
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| irishwebs |
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Member Posts: 363 Location: Kaukauna WI | Good point on using bobber stop for forward positioning intresting application yes I beilive it will work also. My ideal is if I am trolling lures design for deeper contors and diving application but in application speed less then 1.5 will this disc make the lure more pronouced or natural looking when fish don't want fast moving baits. Edited by irishwebs 10/26/2004 11:46 AM | ||
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| PJ |
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| That looks like an old handlining lure we use on the Detroit River called a popper. | |||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | JLDII - 10/26/2004 11:06 AM That diffinetly has a good look to it. Obviously it will catch fishermen, and I dare say it will probably catch fish as well. I wonder how much vibration it gives off cutting thru the water?? You could add to that vibration by placing a bead or two and a blade in front of it, and space it up the line a little ways with the use of a string slip bobber stop. Another idea, which is probably more practical would be to add a couple of those Northland "Rattle Beads" between the disc and the hook. They would definetly get a good shaking, thats for sure. I might have to give those a try while I'm smallie fishing. Drop rate is so important, that I would have to guess that you could put a worm hook and your choice of plastic on a line with that disc ahead of it, a small split shot ahead of the disc, and it would have a slower drop speed and some nice action also! Jack. They show a rig kinda like you described with the weight in front of the disc on their web site. Changing or refining something like this to fit into the walleye scheme of things might work or be a dismal failure, only time will tell. I almost gave up on my spoon harness idea several times when it wouldn't run right. Now they've become a successful working part of my spring/summer trolling arsenal. The real payoff comes when they do work and your the only swinging *+^@ on the water who has any. Now....Who's Your Daddy? Edited by walleye express 10/26/2004 5:51 PM | ||
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| JLDII |
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Member Posts: 714 | Dan, Take a second look at that "Wigglerig" they have on their site. I think you'll find it is actually a float, not a weight, in front of the disc. Either way, I like to play with things and see if I can come up with a little wrinkle now and then that might put an extra pound of fish on the end of the line. You know, ..."build a better mouse trap.". Did you see my email to you? | ||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | JLDII - 10/26/2004 6:02 PM Dan, Take a second look at that "Wigglerig" they have on their site. I think you'll find it is actually a float, not a weight, in front of the disc. Either way, I like to play with things and see if I can come up with a little wrinkle now and then that might put an extra pound of fish on the end of the line. You know, ..."build a better mouse trap.". Did you see my email to you? Jack. Go back to their web sites main page, and click on Rigging Guide on the right side. Scroll down and you'll see the worm sinker in front of the wiggle disc. Might be the trick for your smallies. And I'm not sure what e-mail your talking about. Got all the ones the other day concerning the deleted thread, but no others. Edited by walleye express 10/26/2004 5:49 PM | ||
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| JLDII |
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Member Posts: 714 | I didn't see that one, I was looking at the floating "Wigglerig" that is in the product list. The one you've pointed out is exactly what I want to do, but imagine that with a squid instead of a worm. Smallmouth will be saying MMMMMMMMMMMMGGGOOOD. As for the email,click and check your profile to see if that is the correct addy on there, because that is where I sent it. | ||
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| Skeeter |
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Location: Midland, MI 48642 | I made up some squid harnesses at the beginning of the summer. They didn't have the disk though. One thing I did notice, by the end of the summer the squid had melted the beads. that were inside of it. Kind of a mess. Skeeter | ||
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| Rob Stratton |
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Member Posts: 171 | Gulp! | ||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | As for the email,click and check your profile to see if that is the correct addy on there, because that is where I sent it. Yup...both the e-mail and the web are correct. The web mail would take longer to get to me though, going through my server first. | ||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Skeeter - 10/26/2004 8:14 PM I made up some squid harnesses at the beginning of the summer. They didn't have the disk though. One thing I did notice, by the end of the summer the squid had melted the beads. that were inside of it. Kind of a mess. Skeeter Ah, yes. The melted squid and bead mess. I remember it well from my old Big Lake salmon and lake trout days. Heres what I'm doing to avoid that problem with these rigs Nel's. Simply keep the two separated until they're used. I may not have the most fish in the box at the end of the day, but I insist on the best organized tackle in my boat. Also notice my customized (Pizza Box) harness holder. Cute huh? Edited by walleye express 10/27/2004 9:18 AM Attachments ---------------- IM000753.JPG (94KB - 145 downloads) | ||
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| JLDII |
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Member Posts: 714 | So everytime you need a tackle holder you order another large everything on it pie? Thats a little spendy, isn't it? Did you get my second mail? Edited by JLDII 10/27/2004 9:32 AM | ||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jack. I knew when I seen Franks selling a plain 12" long, 6" around piece of styrofoam with slits in it, to hold your harnesses for $7.00, I had to invent a better/cheaper mouse trap. And either your e-mails are being sent to cyber space, or your wife has put a blocker on my address without you knowing about it. | ||
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| Fish 'R' Us |
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New User Posts: 1 Location: St. Helen, Michigan | Yup, the pizza box is pretty neat. What I did is bought some of those swim noodles they sell at Wall-Mart etc. and cut it into certain lengths, and wrap my leaders around it and fasten them on with T-pins. They use them for making quilts or something, anyhow bought them in the sewing section. So then I have about 6 of these swim noodle leader holders, and put them in a clear see through box, bought same store, and it stores right under where I put my feet when in the drivers seat of my trusty Lund. Handy and cheap. Just another idea. | ||
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| BeFishin |
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Member Posts: 580 Location: Green Bay, WI | Fish 'R' Us, That is a good idea with the T pins. I had seen the swim noodles used before but didn't know how to hold down the non-hook end of the harness. I've even got a bunch of T pins left over from a different application. Cool!! | ||
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| I use roofing nails to hold the loop end to the noodle. Put extras in the end of the noodle | |||
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| walleye express |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Yupper. Where theres a will, theres a way. Notice I also used the wifes stick pins to hold these rigs in place. They work great when using the Norman Quick Clips like I do at the end of my rigs. | ||
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| Rob Stratton |
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Member Posts: 171 | There's a better way. Cut slits about a half inch deep into the styrofoam all the way around. Usually a 12" piece will allow 7 slits. Place the loop end down in the slit first and wrap the harness aroung the styrofoam "in" the slit when you come to a treble put one of the hooks down in the slit so the other two lay flat on the styrofoam. Perfect way to store em. Then place them in one of the large zip lock bags. Three will fit in a bag. I use the noodles that are about 3" around. Smaller one tend to kink the line and larger one's are hard to store. | ||
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