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Location: Milw, WI | Any one use these this past year?
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| entry level counter reel. inexpensive. some have reported lots of problems but I have a set of 17's and a set of 27's. for what I paid for them I am happy with what I got. my 17's never had any problems but my 27's have had some issues with the drag coming loose while winding on 2 reels.
I'd look at the better model daiwa or other brands before buying these again.
I have a set of 6 accudepth 17's with eagle claw starfire graphite rods that will go on ebay or elsewhere for sale soon. thinkin $25 each - spooled with 10 # XT.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | They're junk.
I wasted a lot of money on them when they first came out because of the name. I bet that diawa wouldn't dare come out with an inferior product and I was wrong.
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| let me know , I need a couple more 17's . |
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| I am in college and looking for a deal on some line counter reels, so that I don't have to use my spinning rods to troll boards on Bago anymore. Let me know how much you want for them, I would love to find a deal! Thanks, Lance |
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| I won'r go so far as Dennis to say they are junk, but........
I have 6 of them, purchased at BP 2 years ago for $40 ea. Spooled them up with 10# XT. They work all right, as long as you don't spool to the very top, and never, ever, never, ever, ever, ever, let thumb tension off while free spooling. If you do either of these, your line will get in between the spool and the frame, and well, then your breaking of the line and retying. Really a pain when you got a couple hundred feet out! I'm turning mine into lead core reels, and am in the process of buying the better reels. |
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| I ran 3 last season and picked up another 3 this season. they are not the same quality as the sealines...but a great entry level line counter.
had 1 that the gears got stripped out of and I exchanged it for a new one. other than the drags loosening up on thier own while reeling (seems to be more problematic the cooler it gets outside). I haven't had any real problems. As far as the line wrapping the inside of the spool only had that happen twice, I'm running 20# fireline don't know if that makes a difference.
eventually I'll upgrade to the Sealines.....but for now I need more cranks 
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| What is your email adress lobo? Thanks! |
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| Before ya go out and put good money after bad buying what you know is an inferior product, why not simply get the line counters that go on the pole? Or you could mark your line every ten -20 feet.......I just don't get buying these reels if you know they're no good. |
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Location: lake huron | Rob,
Do you use....... or know anyone that uses those rod mounted counters ? Just wondering if they are worth 10-15 bucks ? I have some Penn's that we count passes on but sometimes a little more accuracy would be nice.
As far as the Accudepth reels go - I would not buy them again but the ones I'm selling haven't been any problem and they are attached to 40 dollar rods - somebody will like em.
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | You'll get mixed reviews about the shakepeare line counters that you mention. I always have a couple in the boat if that tells you anyting. They are a cheap alternative. You're going to get people telling you to save your money and go get Daiwa reels. But IMHO the Shakespeare line counters that I own work great. The main reason that I started to use them is that I use left handed reels occasionaly and no one makes left-handed line counters. I have found them to be reliable and accurate. Do your own research and buy one and measure out 50 and 100 feet and compare the counted line length to your measurements. If you're capable, try this with a borrowed line counter reel. I think that you'll be pleasantly surprised. The only time that I had problems with one was right before ice up, when one froze up on me and I had to use a backup.
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Location: McFarland, WI | I agree with Shep on the line coming off the spool. Really bad if you fish at night and seems to get worse with age.(mine and the reels).
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| Dennis,
Interesting that you mention line lengths. I don't value length accuracy as much as I do overall quality and reliability. The reason is line length can very easily be off by the amount of line put on a reel (full vs 1/2 full). Repeatability is overall what it comes down to. If you catch a fish at say 50' back weather the length is accurate or not. You're gonna want to put the same lure back to that same 50' back. what's more important is consistent reels with consistent spooling of line.....to give the assumption that 50' is 50' from one set-up to the next. Honestly I've never checked reliability of distance on any line counter. That would be an interesting test.
As for shakespear, I own a couple I think they have some of the smoothest drags.....other than them being big and bulky and the bait clickers being a know problem. I like 'em. they've since been dispatched to leadcore sevice for me. |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Jayman - 11/11/2004 2:54 PM
Dennis,
Interesting that you mention line lengths. I don't value length accuracy as much as I do overall quality and reliability. The reason is line length can very easily be off by the amount of line put on a reel (full vs 1/2 full). Repeatability is overall what it comes down to. If you catch a fish at say 50' back weather the length is accurate or not. You're gonna want to put the same lure back to that same 50' back. what's more important is consistent reels with consistent spooling of line.....to give the assumption that 50' is 50' from one set-up to the next. Honestly I've never checked reliability of distance on any line counter. That would be an interesting test.
As for shakespear, I own a couple I think they have some of the smoothest drags.....other than them being big and bulky and the bait clickers being a know problem. I like 'em. they've since been dispatched to leadcore sevice for me.
JAYMAN
A little confusion here. We're talking about the clip-ons not the line counter reel. But I do agree with your evaluation.
As far as line lengths........... I get real anal when I spool line counters................... I make sure that every one reads perfect. I'm certain that 50' is 50' on all reels so that I can count on repeatability and accuracy. I have also learned through trial and error when it's time to respool because of line loss effecting readings. It really doesn't take that much time to set up and make sure that they are accurate.
The hardest method is to stake out the back yard at 50', 100', and 150' increments. Spool your line but do not cut line from filler spool. Go out in the back yard and see what reading you have. add or subtract line as needed to make they're accurate. The second method is to purchase a Shakespeare snap-on line counter and make sure it's accurate using the previous explanation. Once you know that your clip-on line counter works perfectly, you use it to calibrate the line counter reels. Put that snap-on away for the next time that you calibrate. Do not use it for fishing. Buy a couple of others for the boat.
It always amazes people when they fish in my boat and I notice that their spools are 1/2 to 3/4's full. I'll often pull out the snap-on and show them how they are fishing several feet off the depth they thought they were fishing.................AND they can not repeat successful fish catching lengths because they have no idea how all their reels are calibrated to each other.
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| The Shakspeare clip on is a very good product....................but will not replace the Sealines. I have 8 17's 827's and 8 47's. Never had a problem with any of them. Here's a hint on buying them. Go to Dunham's if you have one in your area. They use the same SKU # on both series.....don't ask me why but they do, or at leat they did all last year. You can ask several people that bought them from me for 60 bucks. |
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| Ah I see, wasn't aware that the clip-on's were made by shakespear.
Dennis, thanks for the tip as far as calibrating the line counter reel to an accurate clip on. Perhaps I'll become more anal too. |
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