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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | O.K. Folks, Here they are. Some of you may have herd through the grapevine that Dave Storm was working on an idea for a Goby colored Crankbait. Well, it's birth was not an easy one, or without some personal labor pains for me. This idea was a joint/over time thought process of some different people including Me, Jim from downriver tackle and Dave Storm. The idea's timing and the color schemes themselves caused the most confusion between Jim and I, but has since been ironed out between us, and I'm very pleased that it has. I Initially approached Dave with the idea last summer after cleaning a few walleyes with gobies in their stomach, but his production schedules back then superseded doing any midseason custom jobs of any color. When we decided to move on this project, the idea was still only going to be a custom color. At that time we both searched the Internet for Goby pictures and body color schemes that most closely matched the Gobi's I'm used to seeing here on the Saginaw Bay. The Gray Goby Express was the one I thought looked most like our local Goby, at least the ones I've seen in the stomachs of our walleye and have caught myself. Yet, like other species of fish living in different bodies of water, the Gobie seem to have a variation of color patterns from place to place. So Dave decided to make a set of Goby patterns to match as many of the pictures that we found. The results were 4 Goby patterns that I/we feel look very close to all the ones we found. In fact they looked so good, that Dave decided to make them a stock production color versus a custom. And not just in the Winning Streak model, but all the models of Ka'Boom cranks. Below is the very first look by the fishing public at these new Goby colored patterns. I also included some Link addresses from the actual Goby pictures that we took the patterns from. Also a few words by Dave about the painting process. The next page of this story of course will have to written by the walleyes themselves. They are the final quality control variable and without their approval, the Goby color pattern might just be another pretty face. But I'm hoping that what I've seen the last couple of years as far as the walleyes forage preferences go, puts these new colored cranks on their main menu. Daves release. Here are the new Gobys in separate photos. I will be making a flyer with photos on it, along with the proper item numbers and information regarding colors and baits. GREY GOBY EXPRESS #1 BLUE GOBY #2 YELLOW GOBY #3 GREEN GOBY #4 All are available in all three series of baits, even though the photo only shows the new NS and the WSR. All have our trademarked "Purple Haze" irredescent topcoat that gives all goby colors lifelike shimmer and shine! All will be available as stock items beginning right now...distribution will begin in two weeks in all series. So, we are taking orders now from dealers and distributors and have already sold baits at the show last week. http://www.glsc.usgs.gov/_images/research/roundgoby1.jpg http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/chf/pub/surveyrep...-dec95/goby.gif http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfis...d_RoundGoby.gif http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/art/spgoby.jpg http://www.iowadnr.com/fish/news/exotics/images/goby.gif http://www.fws.gov/midwest/alpena/images/round-goby3.JPG Edited by walleye express 2/16/2005 7:57 AM Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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terroreyes![]() |
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Member Posts: 300 Location: Lincoln Park, Mi | Man, them are some ugly baits! That's a good thing though, because the real gobies are just as ugly. ![]() | ||
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Rob Stratton![]() |
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Member Posts: 171 | The real thing is soooooo ugly I can't hardly stand to look at em! I am sure these will be another great bait in the Line up that dave has compiled. | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | These pictures on the flyer Dave sent me this morning, gives a better idea of the true colors I think. Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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butch![]() |
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Member Posts: 701 Location: upper michigan | just curious why you dont have any of the darker goby patterns typical to green bay. a couple of the gobies in your pictures look very much like our gobies up here. | ||
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Sunshine![]() |
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Member Posts: 2393 Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | I don't know Butch? The Gobies I see in Green Bay match up pretty well. I hope my attempt to show this works. Dave, Great job! Those who know me know I have a deep passion for purple hues. I can't wait to get my hands on these, especially the #51. I just wish that you would have came up with a different name for it, like the Sunshine Goby. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by Sunshine 2/15/2005 10:57 AM Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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butch![]() |
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Member Posts: 701 Location: upper michigan | i guess you are right Dennis it looks pretty close when over laid. thanks cant wait to give them a try. | ||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | Hey Dennis, does that "deep passion for purple" extend to football also?!! LOL I would think that Gobie pattern would be a hot pattern for plastic bodies for jigs as well. 3-4" shad, or grub style. Maybe even in tubes for smallies. ![]() | ||
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Sunshine![]() |
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Member Posts: 2393 Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Jack, Predators luv purple. That's why your football team keeps getting served. I see another sucker is buying them out. BUT the good news is w/ Randy Moss and the pending trade. I hear that Gobie colors in tubes and grubs HAVE ALREADY BEEN very successful on Erie for smallies. | ||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | Okay, so they've been good for smallies on Erie. I'd have to guess they would work other places too. As for the preditor/prey relationship and the colors.....yellow perch seem to make up the bulk of the forage base in most your northern waters, and has for many years. That tells me that the green and gold colors have been getting chewed up for alot longer than anything purple!!! ![]() Edited by JLDII 2/15/2005 1:26 PM | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Sunshine - 2/15/2005 11:54 AM I don't know Butch? The Gobies I see in Green Bay match up pretty well. I hope my attempt to show this works. Dave, Great job! Those who know me know I have a deep passion for purple hues. I can't wait to get my hands on these, especially the #51. I just wish that you would have came up with a different name for it, like the Sunshine Goby. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Now Dennis.. Don't make me throw a Capt: Dan Express fishing curse on your A$$. LOL... ![]() ![]() And I haven't been a fan of the Purple Haze since the early 70's. So this lure should give me flash backs. LOL. Edited by walleye express 2/15/2005 7:01 PM | ||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | On this subject of gobies,.... On Mille Lacs we have a small 3-4" fish which is somewhat simular to the gobie, its called a scaupin. Judging by the numbers of them, I would have to guess that walleyes don't eat them. Can anyone enlighten me on these fish. Are they related to the gobie, and could you explain why the walleyes aren't feeding on them? | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jack. Sculpins are one of the food sources for Lake Trout in the Great Lakes. They are soft rayed like the Goby, but I believe more secretive and cover relative. They may indeed be part of the food chain in your lake Jack. But I'm guessing in the same venue and popularity slot as the (Corn Dog). LOL. Edited by walleye express 2/16/2005 5:50 AM | ||
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streakfreak![]() |
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Member Posts: 88 Location: Oklahoma | Gobys and Sculpins I can handle...Corn Dogs on the other hand... ![]() | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Jack. Heres the answer to your question about rather Sculpin and Gobys are related. My DNR biologist bud came through again. Of course, understanding what the egg head is talking about is another question. ![]() ![]() Dan. Yes they are related at the 'superorder' level. They are both Acanthopterygii. The superorder level in taxonomy, however is pretty far up the ladder from genus and species, meaning that they are only very distantly related. Most people consider fish to be "related" when they are in the same "family". Goby's are in the Gobidae Family and sculpins are in the Cottidae Family. Its a reasonable question since both fishes look similar and share a similar life strategy. That is that they are small benthic species. The other important difference is that most of the sculpins in the Great Lakes are native species while goby's, of course, are an exotic. | ||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | Thanks Dan! I'm still wondering about the scalpin and goby in the food chain though. Are either one of them considered a component of the walleyes forage base? Anyone know?....... | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | I know a Guy named Dave that sure hopes they are. ![]() ![]() And I know a few walleyes that I put under the knife last summer, that thought Gobie were awful appetizing as well. ![]() Ask my personal opinion on this subject again next September, and I'll have a more difinitive answer for you. Edited by walleye express 2/17/2005 2:42 PM | ||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | I understand what you're saying Dan, and I hope these lures are a huge success. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is why is it that you are finding gobies in the stomachs of walleyes over on the "Bay", but I have never found a sculpin in the stomach of a Mille Lacs walleye? I'm wondering if it's one of those things like a cat will eat a mouse, but won't eat a mole. A snake will eat a frog, but not a toad. I'm really hoping we have come across something here that will give me an advantage over other Mille Lacs fishermen, because I've never seen anyone try anything that mimics a sculpin before. Edited by JLDII 2/17/2005 12:36 PM | ||
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sworrall![]() |
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I sincerly hope the Gobies are 'food' for the game fish; there are enough invasives that are not. It's amazing the damage a Red Rudy Crayfish infestation can do ot a body of water, and most fish don't eat many of the things despite eating the native crayfish like candy. Flying carp, Gobies, Millfoil, Red Rustys, sheesh. WHY can't a freighter introduce, say, Zander, or something useful? | |||
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JLDII![]() |
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Member Posts: 714 | Be carefull of what you wish for. | ||
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Doubleeyes![]() |
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What happened to the first goby colors that you showed us that looked similar to the ones that down river is painting? ![]() | |||
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Matt.G![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 49 Location: Timmins, Ontraio, Canada | I haven't seen any gobys in my neck of the woods (northern Ontario) but All of Dave's colours will work really well in my area. Looking good Dave. Keep up the good work. | ||
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Sunshine![]() |
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Member Posts: 2393 Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | I got my hands on one of the goby colors this week and the pictures do not do them justice. They look even better in real life ![]() | ||
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walleye express![]() |
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![]() Member Posts: 2680 Location: Essexville, MI./Saginaw Bay. | Dennis. I totally agree. I was shocked and excited all over again, when I got all 4 of the (real deals) in my hands a few days ago. I can see why Dave had to let go of a few at the shows. Edited by walleye express 2/24/2005 3:52 PM | ||
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