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WalleyeHunter
Posted 7/31/2007 12:01 PM (#59239)
Subject: What a mistake!


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Made the mistake of asking a friend of mine if I could drive his '06 Ranger 620 the other day, and he approved. I kind of frown upon my decisions now, knowing I cannot afford a 620...Will the 1860 Angler have the similar ride? That was the first glass fishing boat I have ever driven, and wow, what a ride.
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stacker
Posted 7/31/2007 1:01 PM (#59241 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


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Walleye hunter, do yourself a favor and drive some other glass boats as well. Then start choosing what you can afford or want to afford. All glass boats ride better than aluminum so please don't get star gazed on the first brand glass you have driven. Checking pricing on all boat lines may open your eyes to how big a boat you can really afford.

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Shep
Posted 7/31/2007 1:43 PM (#59243 - in reply to #59241)
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I don't think it was a mistake. What would be a mistake is to not drive various boats, as Stacker suggests. I think the new 620 Ranger is a very nice boat, but certainly not the best boat there for me. There are certain things I don't like about it, that other boats don't have. I think the price is way too much for the Ranger. I think the Tuffy 2060 is a better ride, and more fishable than the Rangers. But that's me. I didn't want to afford either, so I am in the 1890. Way better ride than the 619, IMO. And faster, too.

Will the 1860 ride like the 620? I doubt it, but it's a Fish N Ski hull, intended for multi use. And it's many thousands less, has a 175 HP rating, single axle trailer, less storage, different Rod Locker setup, etc. But it'll pull skiers and tubes better than the 620, and have more comfortable seating, etc. All boats are a trade off. You just need to find the boat that fits your needs, and your budget. Maybe that will be a Ranger 1860, or a 620. Maybe it will be another brand. Only you will be the ultimate decider on what you want.
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Brian Hoffies
Posted 7/31/2007 2:25 PM (#59247 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


As the others have said test drive your boats first.

Although price is important it's not the most important factor in buying a boat.

First you need to truely like the boat you buy.
Second , it can't be under powered or it won't perform.
Third, your dealer must be s stand up guy, willing to go to bat for you when you have issue's
Fourth, your wife must like the boat also.

Personally, for me it's all about the dealer. If you go back in the archives a couple of years and look in Jan. Feb. March you will see all kinds of guy's pricing out boats. Many of them are back on the boards in June, July, August complaining about being under-powered, the dealer won't fix anything in a timely manner, the company won't get back to me.........yada, yada, yada.

But they saved $75.00 by buying on-line!

Just remember this, you are using the boat, you are paying for the boat, you do your homework to get a boat you will be happy with.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 7/31/2007 2:45 PM (#59248 - in reply to #59239)
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I dont even know if I am in the market...I just wanted to drive his boat, and he said yes...Personally I love my boat, I can store all of my sh#t and I can catch fish in it. And I also know that a glass boat is a better ride, I have driven different fish and ski models and such but no fishing glass boat. Another thing, is that the 1860 Angler is a fishing boat right? Or is it a fish and ski? That would play a big part knowing that my MR Pike is almost the same as a Pro V, I would maybe want something that is ALMOST like a 620!!!


Just a thought!!!
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Loueye
Posted 7/31/2007 10:43 PM (#59269 - in reply to #59248)
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Shep, how fast is your boat?? My 619 goes about 1.1-1.3 mph......
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What!
Posted 8/1/2007 8:49 AM (#59274 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


My wife hates my 620 which is a great thing. That means my son and I can go fishing and not listen to the noise. Seriously, I think the 1860 Angler is a very close match to a small 620 or 619. You won't beat the ride that Ranger has worked on for several years improving. Check the resale on the other brands that will answer some questions for you even if you plan on keeping the boat for 10 years.

Former Tin boat guy
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SLIPKNOT
Posted 8/1/2007 11:23 AM (#59279 - in reply to #59274)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


An 1860 is going to be nowhere near a 06 620. The 07 619 is going to be very close, but that will be about the only ranger that will compare. There are a lot of boats out there though like others have said that will compare. Take a look at some tuffy's, maybe the 1760 or 1890, i think you will be quite impressed. I also have a 1760 that was just put in the classifieds if you are at all interested.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/1/2007 11:38 AM (#59280 - in reply to #59239)
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You talkin Tuffy? I am not being biased by any means, but, I think I will always have a Lund or a Ranger because there are dealers within reasonable driving distances from where I live. And convenience is a huge thing to me. Im sure TUffy is a great boat, its just, I like dealers that are close to home
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/1/2007 5:40 PM (#59296 - in reply to #59239)
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Im no brain surgeon, but by looking on the Ranger website and reading the brochure pretty much from cover to cover, isnt the Ranger 1860 like an exact scaled down version on the 619 and 620 as far as the hull goes. I know the interior is different but to me the boats look identical as far as the way they sit in the water, and it says that they both have the Rite-Track Keel so...Anyways, does anyone out there know what I am talking about. And also, this is a fishing boat right, not a fish and ski...Because if you go to the website, the Angler series is found in the Multi species section, not with the Reatas! Any help?
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bsalmon
Posted 8/1/2007 7:46 PM (#59298 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


The angler is a Reatta withe Counsels moved back to allow more fishing room on the bow. Yes there is a big difference in the 619 and the angler, this came directly from a Ranger Salesman. I think it depends on the type of water you are going to fish, big water stick with the 619/620.
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Wisconsin Wade
Posted 8/1/2007 7:47 PM (#59299 - in reply to #59296)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!



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Don't worry, Shep's not a Brain Surgeon either..LOL.
Ahhh the great boat debate begins, only you can decide what will suffice in a boat. IMHO the Reata interior was built on a fishing hull to help Mr. convince Mrs. that the Boat could be used for family fun as well. It was a popular model for Ranger. So, they built one with a fishing oriented interior at a "Reasonable" price. Move the consoles back for more deck space and make a rod locker to hold 8'ers. Which is the Angler. Hey, I skied behind a Tuffy 1700T, so I guess it was a Fish-n-SKi as well.
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sworrall
Posted 8/1/2007 11:24 PM (#59304 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: Re: What a mistake!




Location: Rhinelander
WalleyeHunter,
Where are you from?
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Shep
Posted 8/2/2007 8:04 AM (#59317 - in reply to #59304)
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What came first? The chicken, or Wade? I'd beg to differ on the Fish N Ski built on a fishing hull, but that came from Wade, so I take it with a bag of salt! hehehe

The 1860 is not a scaled down 620 or 619. It is built on the Reatta hull. All you have to do is compare price, and weight, and you'll see it's not built the same as the 619 and 620. That is not to say it is not a good riding boat. But there will be differences between it and the 619 and 620. I can't see how it can ride worse than a 619, though. That has got to be one of the roughest riding boats I've ever been in.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/2/2007 8:29 AM (#59322 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


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Western MN
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Shep
Posted 8/2/2007 9:39 AM (#59331 - in reply to #59322)
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Get in touch with Mike Lewis. I think he's in Fargo.
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sworrall
Posted 8/2/2007 9:41 AM (#59332 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: Re: What a mistake!




Location: Rhinelander
Yes he is, and he has a couple dealers he's setting up over there.
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homework
Posted 8/2/2007 11:23 AM (#59337 - in reply to #59299)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


There are many good boats out there, some priced reasonably, some not. Get out and drive them and decide what factors are important to you.

Boats like the angler are price-pointed by doing things like removing options, like offering only a single axle trailer and underrating the maximum horsepower, which reduces the potential performance of the boat when compared to others.

BTW, don't get caught up in things like a "Rite Track Keel" or Sta Dri Interior. Every boat has a keel, some companies just choose to name theirs. Next think you know someone will come out with a Flote-Rite hull LOL.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/2/2007 12:06 PM (#59341 - in reply to #59239)
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Where does a guy go to test drive boats? I had the opportunity to go to one on the water boat show...No offense at all, but you guys make it sound like my 7 good friends have 7 different brands of boat. That is not the case! Am I missing out on something when I walk into a boat dealer?
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/2/2007 12:14 PM (#59342 - in reply to #59239)
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Do any of you Ranger dealers out there close to west central mn have an 1860 laying around I can take a look at. I dont even know what they are like but, Im thinking I would need to imagine my equipment in there and that sort of thing.
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Shep
Posted 8/2/2007 1:22 PM (#59355 - in reply to #59342)
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Ususally, the dealer has a pro staff that he rely's on to provide test rides in boats.

Absolutely, you want to get in the boat, and see how it fits you and the way you like to fish. No better way to find out what you like and disike about specific boats.
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WalleyeHunter
Posted 8/3/2007 11:06 AM (#59393 - in reply to #59239)
Subject: RE: What a mistake!


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When you guys talk big water, you are talking the great lakes, and such right. The biggest lake my current boat has been on is Lake Sakakawea on the Van hook, and Devils Lake, other than that, I dont fish too horrible big of lakes...The lake I fish the most, the longest run I make is 20 minutes, about 12-13 miles maybe...I dont know for sure how many miles it is. Anyways, not to big...The Angler should be a good fit huh?
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Shep
Posted 8/3/2007 2:26 PM (#59402 - in reply to #59393)
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Angler would work well on any of the lakes you would want to fish.

Devils Lake can be as bad as Green Bay or Lake Erie, when the wind gets howling. I don't like fishing in the really big stuff, but I am confident that if it catches me out there, I can make it back safely in my 1890.
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