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Posted 12/18/2003 10:14 PM (#10548)
Subject: Knot for tying CRANKS?


What knot do you use to tie crankbaits directly to the line? Do you use a different knot for different pound tests, and a different knot for the superlines?
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john mannerino
Posted 12/19/2003 4:52 AM (#10564 - in reply to #10548)
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I use a snap to connect my cranks. Palomar knot. John Mannerino
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Loueye
Posted 12/19/2003 7:41 AM (#10565 - in reply to #10548)
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Here is a link to a cool knot

http://www.marinews.com/fishing/fk_main.htm

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Sunshine
Posted 12/19/2003 8:33 AM (#10566 - in reply to #10548)
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Clinched Half Blood for mono. It's basically an improved clinch not with an extra loop at the hook(see qualifier below).

Palomor for superlines BUT I use a snap on all crankbaits when trolling and casting.

There's actually a third knot that I use a lot that is a little hard to explain that I picked up from my bass tournament buddies. This knot has been widely used on those "other" circuits but is slow in getting to the walleye world. It's basically an upside down improved clinched knot. It can be tied in about 2 seconds and is very strong. I can not remember ever having a knot break with it.
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walleyeralph
Posted 12/19/2003 9:02 AM (#10569 - in reply to #10548)
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I also use a snap.No bearings, beads.just the snap,gives the bait the wobble and u can change quick.my tip is u will learn a little from everyone and then you will come up with your way and fish it with confidence as this is all u can do.
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walleye express
Posted 12/19/2003 10:28 AM (#10576 - in reply to #10548)
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Originally written by Ice Sam on 2003-12-18 11:14 PM

What knot do you use to tie crankbaits directly to the line? Do you use a different knot for different pound tests, and a different knot for the superlines?

Sam.

The polomar is my knot of choice when using all types of lines. I opened up a can of worms when answering this same post a few months ago on the WC board. I mentioned that I seen a (line break test machine) at a boat show that was testing the breaking strength of each knot, and the polomar was breaking at 100% or more the advertised strength of the different lines, while others knots were often failing at levels below their advertised breaking strength.


I suspect I will get the same response here. But I seen what I seen when he tied the knots, and then again when I did. This was a trilene booth and we were using about 4 different types of line. All were failing at different breaking strengths depending on the knot type, so he wasn't selling anything but the polomar knot idea itself.



Edited by walleye express 12/19/2003 10:30 AM
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Rick Larson
Posted 12/19/2003 10:31 AM (#10578 - in reply to #10548)
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But Dan, been tying double trilene knots all my life and that polymer is just to simple to believe it works so well!
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walleye express
Posted 12/19/2003 2:58 PM (#10584 - in reply to #10578)
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Originally written by Rick Larson on 2003-12-19 11:31 AM


But Dan, been tying double trilene knots all my life and that polymer is just to simple to believe it works so well! :-)


Rick.

Picked up on the smiley face. I get the same reaction and comments from clients a lot. I'm still in awe everytime I tie that simple overhand knot at the end of my crawler harnesses, and they never budge. That knot has to be the very simplest, yet works like a charm.

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zboudreau
Posted 12/19/2003 3:32 PM (#10586 - in reply to #10584)
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Started tying the palomar in 1980 and never looked back.

Zach
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JLDII
Posted 12/19/2003 3:57 PM (#10587 - in reply to #10576)
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Originally written by walleye express on 2003-12-19 10:28 AM

Originally written by Ice Sam on 2003-12-18 11:14 PM

What knot do you use to tie crankbaits directly to the line? Do you use a different knot for different pound tests, and a different knot for the superlines?

Sam.

The polomar is my knot of choice when using all types of lines. I opened up a can of worms when answering this same post a few months ago on the WC board. I mentioned that I seen a (line break test machine) at a boat show that was testing the breaking strength of each knot, and the polomar was breaking at 100% or more the advertised strength of the different lines, while others knots were often failing at levels below their advertised breaking strength.


I suspect I will get the same response here. But I seen what I seen when he tied the knots, and then again when I did. This was a trilene booth and we were using about 4 different types of line. All were failing at different breaking strengths depending on the knot type, so he wasn't selling anything but the polomar knot idea itself.



I have no arguements with what you said, but was wondering if you think a knot such as a polimar, or any other that ties tight to the eye of a crank, has much, if any, effect on the action of the lure. I'm sure you've seen and heard the reasoning behind the "Rapala" knot allowing freer movement.

As for the Triline test, I beat the Triline knot myself several years ago, with 2 different knots, one of which was the polimar. If I get out there for that smallie fishing in April or May like we talked about the other day, I'll show the other knot to you.

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walleye express
Posted 12/19/2003 5:03 PM (#10590 - in reply to #10548)
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Jack.

I plead guilty to not using the polomar much when it comes to directly tying to lures (such as Rapalas) that do not have a snap, clevis or some other type pivot component to the lures nose. But use a lot of jigs (in all sizes) that I use the polomars on.

I know for a fact that tying direct with the plolmar or most other knots detracts or deadons that side to side kick most straight bodied lures have, without that extra pivot attachment on their noses. I've tried my own loop knot, that I tie similar as the harness knot with some success.

But again, 99% of my fishing is with some kind of nose attachment. Since I went to using Norman Quick Clips, I attach them to virtually any and all my crankbaits rather they have their own pivot gizmo or straight fixed attach point.

Edited by walleye express 12/19/2003 5:17 PM
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