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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Source: Knight Ridder
PETA is enemy of anglers
Chicago Tribune
By Lew Freedman
CHICAGO _ Go fishing. Take a kid fishing. Go out for a seafood dinner.
That is the best retaliation for PETA's latest quirky, angler-insulting, ridiculous anti-fishing campaign.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, who declared last Saturday "Fish Amnesty Day," are seeking to make every day fish amnesty day and now are urging fishermen to turn in their rods and reels, to hang up their tackle.
I can't imagine anyone who enjoys fishing actually surrendering his or her gear to PETA for use in anti-fishing demonstrations. Most fishermen would burn their gear rather than donate it to PETA.
As a reminder to outdoorsmen _ as if they need it _ PETA opposes hunting, fishing and trapping and seeks to eradicate all of those activities. PETA also opposes dog mushing, rodeo and the circus.
More recently, PETA seems to have adopted the notion everyone in the world should become vegetarians. The group recently poked fun at actor John Goodman and opera singer Luciano Pavarotti, whom they consider overweight, and demanded they change their eating habits.
Now PETA has concluded fish feel pain and are being tortured when caught, even by fishermen who catch and release.
This is just another absurd example of PETA equating a lower species on the food chain with humans.
PETA's premise is that all animals are warm and cuddly. The organization even has someone on staff with the title of "Fish Empathy Project Manager."
"There's nothing sporting about luring defenseless animals to their deaths with the promise of food," Fish Empathy specialist Karin Robertson said in a PETA press release.
Sometimes PETA supporters just make the looniest statements.
On the group's Web site, Sylvia Earle, described as the former chief scientist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, is quoted as saying, "I never eat anyone I know personally. I wouldn't eat a grouper any more than I'd eat a cocker spaniel. They're so good-natured, so curious."
Grouper?
"You know," she said, "fish really are sensitive. They have personalities. They hurt when they're wounded."
How does she know?
PETA has a long way to go to persuade Americans to hang up their fishing tackle.
About 34 million people fish in the United States and pour $36 billion annually into the economy. Fishermen _ as well as hunters and other outdoorsmen _ are the greatest contributors to preserving the environment. Money spent on licenses and other fees contributes mightily to habitat restoration and aiding wildlife species.
It is worth noting that if there was no hunting or fishing in the United States, the existence of many animals and fish would be threatened.
Taxpayers don't have the will or commitment to spend millions and billions of extra dollars funding those programs being underwritten by sportsmen.
Beyond that, the glut of certain species in specific areas would result in too many deer, elk, black bears and the like competing for too little food. Without fishermen taking their share of fish , the ecological balance of a lake or river would be altered.
Not long ago, I gave a speech to a group of Chicago fishermen. I had been asked by the coordinator to discuss animal-rights organizations, but when I brought it up, one angler said he never hears anything about groups opposed to fishing.
I was surprised. PETA's recent activities should put all fishermen on alert that there are organizations pouring resources into eliminating their hobby. |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Well said, Dennis.
Everybody remember to vote on Nov.2. John Kerry is a supporter of PETA. Protect your right to fish and hunt.
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Location: Kaukauna WI | In this world of politics and miss guided people it is a shame that some time one who makes the most noise wins a battle of advertisements. With this said I can not understand how and why any one who loves to fish and hunt would turn in any gear.
Thank you Dennis for bringing this to our knowledge
On political end I think Bush also supports part of PETA also they both have flip flopped on this subject over the campaign
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| I wish we could get good information on these subjects, to say The President a Hunter and fisherman supports Peta sounds like more rediculus politcal spin from someone who's thought process is driven by emotion . I have heard the same rumors about companies for example," Carhartt supposedly stopped sellng camo because they support Peta and are anti hunting " if that is true and if we know it about a candidate or product we need to not support those things that are out to destroy our sport . The problem as I see it is that we do not have a valid way of knowing who our friends are . I am not volunteering anyone for this but perhaps it is time for those whose livelyhood depends on the continuation of our sport (manufacturers website owners , magazine companies) to get this information out to us so we can decide who to support with our purchasing power . As I said the Cahartt example is for me a rumor because I do not have any facts to support it ,but if it were true I would not purchase anything they sell. As for Politicians it is a bit clearer because they have a public life and we can see if they truly walk thier talk , |
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Location: Waukesha Wisconsin | Depending on your tolerance level their corresponding site will either make you laugh or make you sick.
http://www.nofishing.net/
For the record.......... I do not want to mislead you in thinking that the thoughts from the original post were mine. All I did was cut and past from the original article. My thoughts mirror those of the commentary. |
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| tell peta to go swim in a shark tank.... |
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Location: Menasha, WI | John Kerry is a supporter of PETA
What evidence to have to support this claim?? The candidates and their surrogates are spreading unsubstantiated BS of their own. We don't need to lower ourselves to their level. |
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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Likewise for GW Bush.....he's never supported PETA in any way. |
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Location: Oshkosh, Wisconsin | So did Kerry support PETA before or after his last pheasant hunting trip to Iowa?
If you don't like, Kerry, don't vote for him. But for crying out loud stop spreading stupid, unsubstantiated LIES.
http://www.firefightersforkerry.com/campaign/photo_gallery3_page1.p...
Edited by Brad B 10/14/2004 1:48 PM
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Kerry sure isnt acting like he supports PETA he has a whole bundle of Dead Birds in that sack.
And I saw Bush on Roland Martin Yesterday hurting the Fish
so its obvious neither one of them
supports the crackpot organization, it would be nice if people didnt out and out lie and would stick to the facts. |
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| PETA is a bunch of rookies. Have any of you heard of the Fund for Animals or the HSUS-Humane Society of the United States? These groups are the more serious threat to your hunting and fishing rights because they disguise themselves as mainstream welfare groups. They raise lots of money and spend it on programs and initiatives to stop or limit hunting and fishing. I have seen first-hand how they work, how they are organized and how committed they are...it's scary.
As an Iowan, I'm used to seeing politicians come here for a hunting photo op. Both parties have used this tactic when attempting to convince us that their candidate is pro-hunting, pro-gun etc. Don't believe anything they try to tell you and only half of what you see.
On Animal Rights: The Humane Society and Fund for Animals reports that Kerry supported eight out of the nine most recent bills promoting animal welfare.
http://www.globalstewards.org/democrats.htm
http://www.animalrights.net/index/channel/FundforAnimals
Kerry has also voted to ban hunting on federal land and to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including the rounds most commonly used by hunters (positions that please the animal-rights groups, with whom he also has a perfect voting record of support).
Kerry has hesitated little in claiming to be everyone's friend. This year Kerry told outdoor writers about his commitment to hunters and that "I do a better job of fighting for the rights of sportsmen than George Bush does." Addressing the Humane Society, he bragged that "I've had my name on every piece of animal-rights legislation ever passed by Congress!"
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lott200409140630.asp
I'm not a fan of either major party candidate but please don't get on these boards and tell us how one candidate or the other has taken the moral high ground on an issue, any issue...THEY ARE POLITICIANS! Their job is to pander to your special interest in the hope that you'll believe.
SAY NO TO ELEPHANTS! SAY NO TO DONKEYS! THINK OUTSIDE THE ZOO!
Your resident cynic...
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| I can remember a time about five years back,during the spring run,that the wife and I went to Winneconnie for supper,and walked along the bridge to see how the fishing was. Of course the local PETA people were giving the fisherman a hard time.I spotted one of them swatting a mosquito on her arm,and had to say something about the poor things death.Thats when the wife dragged me back to the truck....PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals Right? |
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| Dorkrigger
Its pretty obvious your a fan of one political party, and the websites you mention have nothing to do with mainstream hunting and fishing rights, shipping black bear gall bladders and shooting a tame lion has nothing to do with PETA, suppoting the enviornment and being against hunting and fishing are two different things, lets stick to the topic and keep your poitics out of it.
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| Wow! Sorry that you feel that way Independent. However, please note that the first two websites are: 1) an environmental site; 2) an animal rights exposure site. Yes, some parts of the legislation he supports are admirable(bear gall bladders?!) but the endorsements alone should trigger alarms to sportsmen. Do you have any idea of what other items are contained in the legislation that he sponsored and supported? Admittedly the National Review site is a little over the top but it gave the summary I thought appropriate without making everyone read the actual legislation(which it seems that most of us don't want to do). Additionally, I didn't see you accussing previous posters of partisianship with site references that are clearly political in nature. My post was intended to make everyone think critically about the muck that we are being fed by BOTH major parties. I believe that both candidates are guilty of misguiding the voters on certain topics and I think that is what Kerry is doing with either the hunters or the bunny-huggers. You get to decide...that's why its a great country. Are you really an independent? |
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Location: Rhinelander | Every 4 years we have the same debate, Right VS Left, Conservative VS Liberal, and extreme VS extreme of both views. I personally am VERY happy I live in a country where that's not just allowed, but is strongly encouraged and defended.
PETA will be there regardless of which candidate is elected. It's OUR responsibility to see to it the anti hunting/fishing 'education' efforts those folks undertake are countered with FACTS, especially with our kids. Concrete has a funny effect on a person if that's all one sees. Reality is so far from the fold of many of these folks it's unbelievable. Maybe a buck right through the old windshield might bring the deer overpopulation problem into clarity for some of these folks, then again...
I'm for everyone pulling together despite your left/right political views, because that is the only way we can counteract these misinformed, strange folk's bull.
Statements by either candidate that "I am a hunter!" pretty well removes them from the PETA arena. Heck with the politics, extreme activists don't care about that, they care about their agenda and will be stopped by nothing except for direct and carefully worded opposition/education. Calling them idiots, though appropriate for accuracy sake, won't get anything done, folks like this feed on that sort of thing.
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