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Location: Appleton | MIDWEST WALLEYE SERIES (MWS) FOURTH TOURNAMENT SCHEDULED September 7, 2008 ON THE BAY OF GREEN BAY
APPLETON: The Midwest Walleye Series (MWS) will have their fourth tournament of the 2008 season in Menominee, MI on Sunday September 7, 2008 and will include fishing the entire Bay of Green Bay. There will be registration and rules meeting will be at Menominee Marina. Registration is 4:00 PM to 5:00 PM with the rules meeting at 6:00 PM on Saturday, September 6, 2008. Teams must be off the water by 5:00 PM Saturday September 6, 2008.
Tournament hours will be 6:30 AM - 2:30 PM. The entire Bay is open to fishing.
Jim Coon MWS Director is looking forward to see the teams overall point’s standings are after this tournament. Currently there is only 120 points between 1st place and 25th place and only 200 points between 1st and 50th place.
The top twenty-five teams of the series will fish the championship tournament and attend the championship banquet. There will be no entry fee for the qualifiers. This years Championship will be Saturday October 4, 2008 and will be in Menominee, MI.
The MWS circuit is a professional, competitive, and affordable fishing opportunity. Results are posted on our website www.fishtfm.com as well as other web sites. Also, the Midwest Outdoors Magazine covers the tournament results. A subscription to the Midwest Outdoors Magazine in included with the MWS membership.
The MWS is run by Fishermen for Fishermen.
The major sponsors for the Midwest Walleye Series are Ranger Boats, Mercury Marine, MotorGuide and Mills Fleet Farm.
Site sponsors include Anglers Pride, Action Discs, All Sport & Trophy, E-cell Batteries, Lakemaster, Lamiglass Rods, Ka Boom Lures, Mack’s Lures, Marine General, StowMaster Nets, Sportsman’s Warehouse, Smooth Move Seats, Wave Spin Reels, and Midwest Outdoors.
There are still openings in this tournament. We will take entries up to the rules meeting, However entries postmarked or taken after August 30, 2008 will be charged a processing fee.
For more information on entering this tournament, tournament details, or complete information on the Midwest Walleye Series, please visit the website www.fishtfm.com or e-mail [email protected] or call 920-731-3474.
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Location: Appleton | There are still openings in this tournament. Entries post marked by Saturday August 30th will avoid the processing fee. Also teams will be allow to weigh four fish. |
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Location: Berlin | Jim, when do you think the pictures will be posted from the last tournament? |
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Location: Manitowoc WI | Does MWS nock off your lowest score for the points race? |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Nope - it's an accumulation of all four. |
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| Don't worry! The top teams aren't going to register until the last night as usual when their groups decide if it's worth it. Early registration and comittment isn't needed unlike most tourney's. |
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Location: Appleton | Mr Carbide unlogged
(The top teams aren't going to register until the last night as usual when their groups decide if it's worth it.)
For your information of the top seventy teams in the points standings only seven teams are not signed up for the Menominee tournament.
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| Jim, I think you just made his point. Unfortunately too many teams are in or out based on their last day or two of prefishing. A lot of the teams therefore are not up in the points and not comitted to the series and just fish the ones that they are doing well at. A true series should require a comittment prior to the start of the season. |
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| Guest,
I would suggest that 60 of the top 70 being signed up is a good number of commitments. There can many reasons for others to wait or take a pass.
No doubt that there will always be some who are willing to pay the late fee feeling that they have an edge on the bite. Those who are commited to the program and seeking to fish the championship are in it for the long haul and will fish all the tourneys they can. As I am sure you know, the fish are fickle and no one has it locked up until they hit the scale.
Take care,
Jim O
Edited by Jim Ordway 8/31/2008 11:23 AM
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Location: Appleton | The other thing many teams only fish Winnebago tournaments. They are not fishing for points to make the Championship. Also there family and work commitments, that should come before tournament fishing. I agree there will always be the last minute sign ups, some due to commitments changing, others due to fishing the bite. Bottom line yes we could eliminate the last minute sign ups but that would also reduce the tournament payouts. Over the years the last minute sign ups have not taken home a high percentage of any tournament payout.
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | I am one of the GUIlty last min guys, of the 3mws tournaments i have fished i have always signed up late or saturday night.. but of the 3 i have fished i havent pre-fished for a single one. not proud of that its just that my fishing partner and i both make a good chunk of our living in sales of boats and rv,s on a saturday morning in may june july august and yes even september.. the costs of fishing even an mws tournament double or tripple when we miss out on sales opportunities. we also like said above have commitments to pur employers. i want like heck to fish this weekend and trying to get off work saturday morning to spend a little time covering the expansive bay of green bay, still a 50% chance we wont fish and the odds that both of us can get away are slim its nice to have a cercuit like the mws that even without pre-fishing you still have a chance to be competitive on the bay or baggo if you are somewhat familair with the bodies of water from the past. bago is one thing but the bay needs to be pre-fished, another factor on the bay is weather. teams unfamilaiar or uncomfortable with the water are less likely to play ball without a fair weather report. teams fishing al four mws tournaments for the year need entries other than theres to create gaps in the leader board, POINTS races are more fun when teams have a chance to make up a large gap and still qualify for the championship,, teams that feal they are too far out of reach to qualify may also stay home,,, its a catch twenty two but allowing 30 more boats in late and also keeping 20 boats exited to fish that didnt fair so well in the first couple of tournaments adds up! thats a 50 boat swing for a late season tournament. incidently of the 3 tournaments fished i only ended up with 1 top ten. we all know what its going to take to win a tournament for the most part we have an idia anyway,,,,,, its funny how the complainers of late entries never even come in with half the target weight.. then agian im a late entry and seldom do we either. so whats the point of all the bickering.. |
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Location: Manitowoc WI | I think late entries are plenty appropriate. we all have the same chance coming out of the gate. us people that pre-registered have the advantage because we saved the 50$ late entry fee. haha.
It would be cool if the late entry money was put toward a pool for the highest finishing team that was "pre-registered"
weather is a very legitmate reason for late entries. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | buds bud thats a good idia... the fifty dollar late fee should go to the top finishing on time entry,,, of course Jims work load increases at the last min, by all the late entry paperwork... but i would venture to guess (99% of the late entry names addresses are familiar faces to Jim , between the work he does for the merc national and walleyes for tommorrow im thinking though he is always getting introduced to new folks he has a pretty good handle on who is who. it would give folks more of incentive to send in early, or heck ,make it an award for the top points team including the championship , us all points for the year all 5 events gets the late fee cash... as team of the year. make the championship worth double points and let the boys play to the end. lets not also forget that a a team only fishing 1 event as a late entry also spends a few more bucks on a membership for the entire year for only one event. so there check to enter the single tournament is higher than just the 50 dollars . still though with a team of the year undecided till after the championship worth double points and also a champion for the championship tournament to be declaired it would make the championship tournament on a somewhat nutral body of water a bit more of a destination to shoot for . dont ya think?
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Location: Manitowoc WI | where does the late entry money currently go??????? perhaps this should be something that gets looked into, its a great way for the early registers to be happy to see late entries.. "thats just more money in the late entry pot" |
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Location: Appleton | Late fees go into currently go into the overall payout. I am going to look at possibly doing something as suggested to reward the teams that sign up early. This could not start until next year. I have to look at how this could be worked in without causing to much confision. There would be a lot of things to be considered to put into effect as you never know how many late entries and what would be the cut off date. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | I would keep it simple, i woulnt change your late fee deadline at all, i wouldnt increase it either.. i would just collect the late fee of 50.00 and set it aside , for the championship, less your usual 20 % or whatever for your trouble and paperwork time. heck set that aside for the championsip expenses too , i would then pay it out to the top team or top 3 teams in points after the championship tournament points get added in as a fifth event, i would make it a double points event, its on somewhat nutral water and i will give the top 25 teams a lot to shoot for at the championship in addition to than the championship tournament itself.. also the top in points would have a little cash.. i would think if you finnished 11th in all 5 events in the year you may have a chance to win something like this without actualy cashing a large check all year otherwise... , and keep it fun! just a thuught but i would keep it as simple as that... lets face it... 10 late entrys per turnament is 500.00 times 4 events is 2000.000 to work with .. im not sure what the average late entry count per tournament is but it would create a team of the year race to the end . also build more dramma for the championship and incurrage participation in all for events . just thinking out loud.. but i wouldnt change a thing .. keep the fee the same keep the cut off date the same... i would think that you would almost want to encurrage late entrys and so would the guys that fish all four events.. and i think you would have less bickering between the baggo , and green bay crowd over who has the advantage every year. the most well rounded team with the best program for all five events including the championship takes home the check . cant argue about it.. OH YA ONE MORE PARGraph.. CONGRADULATIONS is in order for the tip 5 even maybe the top ten teams in points for the 2008 MWS season... WOW!!! from a late spring in wisonsin winiconni tournament to the bay and limmitations with the river.. with the tricky Baggo bite with many big fish up river yet... pulling flys , cranks and jigin in the baggo system to the mud and now this week ending up on the Bay for some Major GREAT LAKES heavy heavy fish my pick to win will be 37 lbs.. major big structure fishing lotsa water to cover... then the championship a whole new pile of options. the top 5 teams of the 08 mws season i would put up against the best in any location at anytime and expect them to do well!!! the teams are as well rounded as you can get to be able to finish where they end up for the year!!! these are good teams and great anglers and underated in my book!!!
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Location: Manitowoc WI | the only thing i differ with, teams that late register should not be eligible in ever seeing there late registration money. evan if they are the points race. Rewarding those who pre-register, will create less conflict agenst those who sign up day before. thats what originated my thought on the matter. |
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Location: Chicago IL. | I think the late fee is a great idea to be paid out to the highest placing yearly signed up team for that tourney day. Its a great way to add to the incentive to sign up early in the year. I dont fish the MWS but it is a great idea for other trails. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | budsbud66 - 9/3/2008 4:05 PM the only thing i differ with, teams that late register should not be eligible in ever seeing there late registration money. evan if they are the points race. Rewarding those who pre-register, will create less conflict agenst those who sign up day before. thats what originated my thought on the matter. i dont think a team that sends in early needs to be rewarded ! do teams that show up early at the boat launch in the morning get a hand out too? what about if i have an mws sticker on my truck? wheres my cut... the point of the late fee is to discurage late entry not reward early entry.. i dont think just because you enter all the events and send in early means you should be rewarded.. now if you do so and finish ahead of the competion that would be something to be rewarded for! you as a team that sent your entry fee in a month early have no more claim to the 50 dollars than a team that fished all the events and entered saturday night before... they spent an extra 200 dollars in entry fees for the year and if they can get it back if they finnish top in points just as you would have your shot at it too... but to take the money from the late fee and only pay it out to early entry participants sounds good to some but is unfortunatly will create more hard fealings. like i said keep it simple and everyone has a shot at the end prize if they participate and have a great year! you always want to build participation and welcome not chase away potential future teams and freindships. |
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Location: Berlin | Jim, Just keep the money. Late entrants only make your life harder not the ones who signed up early. I just assumed that you did keep it. |
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Location: in the boat off the east shore somewhere | i would have no problem with that either... i guess... and as for this weekend Jim... i hafta work till 1 in the afternoon saturday ill be picking my fishing partner up in appleton and we will be on our way up to registraition with our late fee in hand... wife gave me the green light this morning , unfortunatly no pre fishing will be done for this one either.. thanks agian for letting us sign up late as without that option i wouldnt be there ... woooo hoooooo |
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