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Location: Manitowoc, WI | Here are the final standing for the PWT Super Pro Series. The top 30 advance to the PWT Championship. Congratulations to Ron Seelhoff on becoming the first PWT Super Pro Angler of the Year.
Rank/Name/City/State/Chamberlain/Ottertail/Houghton/Mille LacsTotal Points
1 Ron Seelhoff Burlington CO 90.6 27.66 87.05 100 305.31
2 Bill St. Peter Bay City MI 84.06 62.16 93.82 62.69 302.73
3 Sheldon Meidinger Bismack ND 81.44 46.97 63.61 96.66 288.68
4 Bill Ortiz Richland Center WI 87.08 71.38 67.37 60.2 286.03
5 Dave Van Oss Appleton WI 83.2 54.62 84.72 61.15 283.69
6 Mark Christianson Walker MN 82.42 72.77 54.47 70.24 279.9
7 Andy Kuffer Sterling Hieghts MI 83.95 52.33 85.23 55.44 276.95
8 Bobby Crow Paterson WA 81.77 55.93 74.99 55.6 268.29
9 Mark Martin Twin Lake MI 76.93 54.8 81.06 53.95 266.74
10 Pete Harsh Sauk Centre MN 71.11 53.15 100 41.76 266.02
11 Daryl Christensen Montello WI 66.19 82.11 65.24 51.95 265.49
12 Jim Carroll Minot ND 87.26 40.82 72.96 63.48 264.52
13 Mark Brumbaugh Arcanum OH 76.22 48.77 78.17 59.3 262.46
14 Marty Glorvigen Grand Rapids MN 88.54 50.91 41.94 81.02 262.41
15 Perry Good Brainerd MN 95.61 54.51 54.58 56.27 260.97
16 Mike Gofron Antioch IL 77.35 49.81 61.77 69.93 258.86
17 Bob Propst, Jr. Bode IA 100 10.23 75.37 70.29 255.89
18 Ron Gazvoda Lakewood CO 67.35 49.17 82.46 54.21 253.19
19 Tom Kemos Oconomowoc WI 91.55 26.27 70 63.76 251.58
20 Danny Plautz Muskego WI 90.39 54.94 31.28 72.91 249.52
21 Ross Grothe Northfield MN 85.32 55.7 35.32 70.26 246.6
22 Jim Muzynoski Bozeman MT 61.89 42.97 75.69 65.2 245.75
23 Gary Parsons Glidden WI 81.35 52.68 68.04 42.04 244.11
24 Jeff Taege Rhinelander WI 78.72 29.83 56.19 79.3 244.04
25 John Kolinski Greenville WI 84.36 58.77 59.13 41.5 243.76
26 Shannon Kehl Menoken ND 84.27 47.61 63.66 48.07 243.61
27 Steve Bohn Unionville MI 92.63 63.44 27.55 58.96 242.58
28 Dan Stier Pierre SD 88.24 46.62 45.84 59.12 239.82
29 Rick Franklin Park Rapids MN 88.48 56.57 45.11 49.46 239.62
30 Chase Parsons Brillion WI 80.87 17.69 84.56 54.98 238.1
31 Dave Randash Dilworth MN 86.78 52.45 52.44 46.28 237.95
32 Bruce Samson Minnetrista MN 51 100 9.59 75.27 235.86
33 David Andersen Amery WI 87.47 50.91 58.29 38.93 235.6
34 Larry Snow Kenora, Ont. CAN 75.8 37.08 34.92 85.85 233.65
35 Todd Frank Pulaski NY 88.03 36.62 51.97 56.96 233.58
36 Sam Anderson Inver Grove Hts. MN 80.54 65.73 42.2 43.32 231.79
37 Dean Miller Stevens Point WI 89.79 39.05 35.13 65.84 229.81
38 Rick Olson Mina Lake SD 81.35 63.93 35.25 48.38 228.91
39 Scott Fairbairn Hager City WI 85.44 55.73 40.4 47.02 228.59
40 John Bergsma Walker MI 77.98 55.87 13.79 80.41 228.05
41 Gary Roach Merrifield MN 76.57 49.61 69.3 29.84 225.32
42 Gil Mollet Jefferson SD 82.39 63.64 23 55.42 224.45
43 Scott Glorvigen Grand Rapids MN 73.83 51.2 62.75 34.93 222.71
44 Keith Kavajecz Kaukauna WI 81.32 38.91 55.28 45.61 221.12
45 Steve Fellegy Aitkin MN 75.83 51 54.98 35.82 217.63
46 Mike Kulm Rapid City SD 79.05 41.03 35.81 60.81 216.7
47 Todd Riley Amery WI 79.44 31.31 73.38 30.89 215.02
48 Ernie Olson Foley MN 74.52 46.27 71.33 22.73 214.85
49 Charlie Johnson Merrifield MN 83.44 43.43 43.99 42.37 213.23
50 John Butts Dryden, Ontario CAN 70.58 44.33 51.41 45.4 211.72
51 Tommy Skarlis Waukon IA 78.81 54.19 9.87 54.85 197.72
52 Tom Backer Fargo ND 84.15 30.41 49.01 30.87 194.44
53 Dan Plautz Muskego WI 76.81 60.37 41.99 12.17 191.34
54 Brad Davis Jackson WI 56.94 46.85 43.5 43.25 190.54
55 Brian Ney Baudette MN 70.7 35.52 31.3 49.69 187.21
56 Jerry Fox, Jr. Algonac MI 84.42 41.69 27.64 24.6 178.35
57 Barry Walker Big Springs NE 96.39 29.08 12.9 38.24 176.61
58 Tony Puccio Verona WI 85.47 38.47 9.14 43.14 176.22
59 Jay Janny Eagle WI 79.41 44.01 13.86 31.56 168.84
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| Look at the big names that did NOT make the championship. There are some legendary names there.
Skarlis, Fairburn, Doc Samson, Rick olson, K. Kavajecz.
That's some heavy hitters!
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Skarlis, Fairbairn, Kavajcez will most likely make it through the regionals. Doc has a good chance to make it also, if he has a good tournament. |
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| Watch for those names to make it coming in from the regional series, that is why many fished both circuits .......2 chances at the big show |
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| Ok, here some things to ponder. How many will get in on the Regional side now? I am guessing 50 total make it to the Championship (30 Supers and 20 Regionals?). You can see the regional standings on the PWT website. From there it looks like there were several that made it on the SuperPro side and the Regional side. So...based on that, 20 spots would come from the regional side to make the Championship a 50 man feild??
So in looking at the list (sorry about any spellings)...Gosvoda, Kemos, Courts, Seelhoff, G. Parsons, Kolinski, Gofron, C. Parsons, Harsh, Ortiz, Neu, Stier....all qualified in both the Regional AND the Super Pro. So, that's going to open some more spots in the Regional for guys like Fairbairn on the bubble. Looks like Kavajecz only fished the Super. So, now you got guys like Scarlis, D.Anderson, Riley, Olson, and Backer, that I think will get in on the regional side plus the 11 or so spots opening up from the Super Pro guys qualifying on both sides...is this how it will work now??? Just thought it would be an interesting discussion. They might have to pull down into the 40somthings to fill the Championship?? |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | You are pretty much right on. From what I understand 33rd place on the regional side will make the championship.
The only thing I would like to see, is more of the super pro's fishing the regional side. That way the newer guys fishing the tour can guage themselves to see how good they really are, and what they need to work on. |
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| Interesting, from what I can see....and I could be wrong.
Supers making the cut on Both sides: Supers making it on the Regional side only:
Harsh Riley
C. Parsons Scarlis
Gofron E. Olson
G. Parsons D. Andersen
Kolinski
Seelhoff
Courts
Gazvoda
Kemos
Franklin
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Location: Combined Locks, WI | Kavajecz did fish both the super and the regional. For some reason I can't get the PWT site with the standings to come up right now. I did look up all three regional events to date and his name was in them all. He finished 10th in Winneconne, mid 60's at Devils, and mid 30's at Mobridge. |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Dave Anderson automatically makes the championship because he won it last year. Kavajcez's name isn't on the regional standings, because he didn't sign up to fish all 4 in the beginning of the year. I believe he now is fishing Bay de Noc
From his finishes he should have around 183 pts. which would put him in 10th place
Edited by shink 8/16/2006 8:11 PM
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| Courts did not qualify for the super pro but will make it in the regionals. The PWT set the regionals up to allow the super pros that don't make the cut to cherry pick the regionals against the newbies. What a deal for the super pros. I hear the super pro thing is all but history for next year. |
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| I can't figure out what you mean by Cherry pick? You would need to fish all the regionals to qual.. because it's based on points. Only 20 spots are open, and in the top 20 any "Super Pro" would give up that spot because they made it through the Super Pro events. So # 21 on the regional list would now get in. So the 10-12 Super Pro's that fished both and made it on the Super Pro side would give up the regional spot.
Can you tell us more about what you heard about the Super Pro being all but done? Who is saying what? Why would they fold thta up? Is interest that low? |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | Guest,
As usual you are wrong on both accounts. To make the championship from the regionals, the super pro's had to fish all four events. They were not able to "Cherry Pick" as you said.
The super pro is not done, except for this year.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest - 8/17/2006 7:22 AM
The PWT set the regionals up to allow the super pros that don't make the cut to cherry pick the regionals against the newbies. What a deal for the super pros. I hear the super pro thing is all but history for next year.
To be honest with you guest, the super pro format is getting more attention than any time before the new format was introduced. And for you comment about "cherry picking" some of these guys sponsors are requiring them to fish a minumum number of evets, so that is why they fish both the regionals and super pros. Plus another bonus is with these super pros fishing the regionals, it's good to have the new guys fishing againsts the so called best in the business. I don't know if there is preconceived notion that just because they are a super pro means that they will do better all the time or what but just for proof of that last statement, let me ask you this guest, how many super pros have won a regional event this year? If I recall right Tom Gatzke won the Winneconnie regional, Jason Feldner won the Devils Lake regional and Mark Courts won the Mobridge regional. How many out of those three guys fish the super pros? So don't say this fishing is easy for the super pros. The super pros still have to go out and catch fish just like everyone else in the game. |
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| Let's see, I am a super pro and start the year fishing the regionals and the super pro series. Things are going good in the first two super pro events but not so good in the first two regionals. I decide not to fish the last two regionals due to my top 30 lead in the super pro series. I will have a good shot at the ship. On the other hand I am doing poorly in the super pro series with no chance at the ship. So I fish the rest of the regionals with the guys off the street and bingo I am in the big show. IE. CHERRY PICKING!
As for the super pro going away. I heard this from a super pro. The PWT has figured out it cost as much to run a tourney with 60 contestents as it does with 120 contestents. Lets see what happens and the tourney fishermen can deal with the spoils. |
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| You are full of it! Here is example of why , what you just said is stupid. Bruce Samson- On the Super Pro mind you Has a 1st and a 7th and is NOT in the top 30! So what you just said is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, it's never over UNTIL the last event is fished.
So if you think these guys are just going to give up after 2 events, because they think they are in for sure you are dead wrong. You can NEVER tell what is going to happen in an event or how the year will play out. I['m sure some of these guys have the Ego to back up what you are saying, but most have been in the game long enough to know better! |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Guest - 8/17/2006 2:34 PM
Let's see, I am a super pro and start the year fishing the regionals and the super pro series. Things are going good in the first two super pro events but not so good in the first two regionals. I decide not to fish the last two regionals due to my top 30 lead in the super pro series. I will have a good shot at the ship. On the other hand I am doing poorly in the super pro series with no chance at the ship. So I fish the rest of the regionals with the guys off the street and bingo I am in the big show. IE. CHERRY PICKING!
As for the super pro going away. I heard this from a super pro. The PWT has figured out it cost as much to run a tourney with 60 contestents as it does with 120 contestents. Lets see what happens and the tourney fishermen can deal with the spoils.
See guest, thats where your wrong, take a guy like Doc Sampson. He won the Super pro event at Otter Tail. But guess what guest, Doc went from the bottom 5 in the super pro standings after Chamberlain to the top 5 after he won the Otter Tail super pro. And guess what guest, Doc didn't make the championship through the super pro series. Isn't that funny guest, just because he won one event doesn't mean he will make the big show. The guys that make the big show through the super pro series are the top 30 guys that have the best finishes throughout the year. It's a combined average of all the qualifying events throughout the whole super pro events that make the big show.
Ok, another place your wrong guest is that I know everyone of the super pros and most of the regional guys personnally, it's funny how the super pros that fish the regionals have told me it's in a way harder to do good in the regionals because you face so much local talent. I mean look Devils Lake for an example, look how many locals fished that tournament. I mean look at who won, Jason Feldner is a local guide and his knowledge is tremedous compared to say a guy who fishes that body a water once a year, not taking anything away from Jason because know what, he still had to go out and catch fish, plain and simple!!!!!!!!!
But I love how you say "guys off the street", those guys in my opinion and most of the super pros that fish the regionals are more feared because of there knowledge of a body of water. Just because they are a super pro doesn't mean they automatically win the regional event or make the championship, they still have to go out and catch fish. To me, if I was a regional guy and fishing, I would want those super pros there. It not only challenges me but in a way can help you as a tournament angler. That's why the PWT has allowed the super pros to fish the regionals. It really challenges the super pros by going against that local knowledge.
And for the super pro format going away, ask Mr. Worrall which series gets near double the the hits when a super pro event is going on? He will tell you that the Super pro events get much more interest that any other event. The super pro series isn't going anywhere. Trust me on that! You just have to love those great rumors that get so far out of whack they are absolutely hilarious!
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| Guest,
Just talked to Charlie Moore and he said all plans are for the regional and super pro series for 2007. When in doubt, call, don't speculate.
Guest who called for the answer. |
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | The super pro series will be around, they had great respone from the fans at the weigh-ins.
There are 30 super pro's that did not make the championship, Some are making it from the regionals, I would be willing to say the rest are kicking themselves for not fishing the regionals.
My prediction is you will see more super pro's fishing the regionals next year, to try and make the championship. That will boost the fields, and have more fans at the weigh-ins.
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| until you spend the money this guys spend! zip it up!!!!!! |
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Location: Forest Lake, MN | Guys, this person "quest" is just trying to make trouble. In every crowd there is some one who gets his jollies trying to show how stupid he or she is. Bruce Samson is a friend of mine and really the only person I deal with on a regular basis. I know from working with him no matter how well he did in the last tournament, he's going into the next one to win, no if's ands or buts. A person has to be out of touch with reality if they think these people aren't going to try and win every time. One let down, even a little, would cost them a position and thats money out of their pocket. And on top of that, every one of these people want bragging rights of being the best.
Get a life Quest.
WarrenMN
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Wanted to add one thing. Last year or the year before I think Pete Harsh broke his leg during a tournament and the next day he was running in the pack any way. That don't sound like the type of people that let up.
Edited by WarrenMN 8/17/2006 9:13 PM
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Location: Jackson, Wisconsin 53037 | I couldn't agree with you more Warren. I got the chance to get to know Doc alittle better in Mobridge. Besides what you said, he is also a class act/
When guys like Guest post things like that, it puts a little bit of doubt in peoples heads. The ones that fish the tour and friends of those guys know the truth. But for the people that aren't close to the situation the things that guest did say, paints an ugly picture.
Some of us have to come on here and show how foolish he really is. |
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Location: Rhinelander | Gents,
TJ has it right, the Super Pro format has been very successful and is definitely on for next year; bigger and better, in fact. Same thing with the Regionals.
Cherry picking the Regionals? That's really not going to happen unless one has a crystal ball; way too many good sticks out there to assume 4 good finishes. I'm also betting there will be more Super Pro anglers competing in the Regionals next year. By the way, Mr. Courts wasn't a Super Pro this year. maybe he will be next...
MS,get yourself qualified to fish them both and then make observations next season and we'll see if the musings match.
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| From what I have seen, even the regional events have very impressive fields from top to bottom.
The regionals all have very well known, famous, competitive names along with a few local legends, and some long time (well known) sticks who don't have time to fish a whole circuit.
It iss a group of darn good sticks. |
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