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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/8/2007 8:34 PM (#62362 - in reply to #62359)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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Both motors come with a 3 year non-declining warranty. However, Mercury offers a 2 year extended warranty that goes to April 15, 2008 this year. They have been doing this for the past few years. So, which one has a better warranty in a non-bias point of view. I would have to say Mercury. However, if you miss the early buy, then you would get the standard 3 year warranty. Making either motor equal in the way of warranties.
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Jayman
Posted 10/9/2007 8:12 AM (#62366 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620



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The E-tec has been offered with a spring special on their warrenty for a total of 7 years.
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Warrnaty and Price
Posted 10/9/2007 9:22 AM (#62369 - in reply to #62366)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


Both have good warranties. It depends on marketing gimmicks each year, some companies offer longer warranty to induce the buy. Straight pricing, which is more expensive? By how much?
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/9/2007 9:53 AM (#62372 - in reply to #62369)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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Ok, well I guess the E-Tec then would have the better warranty with the special deal.
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Rude
Posted 10/9/2007 12:25 PM (#62379 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


What was that Merc kid did you say the E-tec is a better motor?
I was thinking that if you are from wisconson merc should give you die hards an extra 10% off on those black motors just for the never say die support you give them.
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/9/2007 12:49 PM (#62380 - in reply to #62379)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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LOL. I am a very die hard Merc fan! There won't be anything but a Merc on any transom I own. But to answer your question, from what it sounds like, the E-tec has a pretty good warranty plan, maybe cause there in need of a good one right now. hehe. Kinda like Merc didn't offer about seven years ago. Oh well, the Opti's are performing better than ever now and blowing by everyone else. Black all the way!
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budsbud66_w
Posted 10/9/2007 3:10 PM (#62383 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


Perhaps there is a draw..

Evinrude definatly had there problems with the FICHT. Merc definatly had there problems with the OPTIMAX's


One thing i look at when trying to decide who makes a better motor is warranty. and price difference. I bieleve evinrude takes the cake in both those catagories..

Ive always noticed mercs are noticably cheaper..
perhaps thats because they have more over seas parts or what not.. or sell more so they can lower the cost:profit ratio.. i dont know....

i lean towards evinrudes, but you will find me with what ever deal i can get on the back of my transom.. im not going out of my way to make sure ill be running an merc or rude.. I call a draw.............

but i really do like those yamaha's....
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Warranty and Price
Posted 10/9/2007 5:29 PM (#62387 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620




'What was that Merc kid did you say the E-tec is a better motor? '

Where did he say that?

Both good motors. Both good companies. And that's enough about folks from Wisconsin, Rude, Evinrudes are made in Wisconsin too. Yep, right here in Wisconny in a shiny new cool factory.

And as far as price, suggested retail on an Evinrude, according to rumor, is coming down alittle this year. We'll see if that's a fact or just another rumor.
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/9/2007 10:14 PM (#62393 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


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Now come on guys, me admitting that an E-tec is better? LOL. Not in this world. LOL Jayman stated that an E-tec with the special offer you can get up to a 7 year warranty. So, if that is correct, that would give Evinrude the edge on warranties offered. That's all I'm saying. Still Merc ALL the way baby!
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repair man
Posted 10/10/2007 6:26 AM (#62395 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


Jayman....you seem to know all about that e-tec warranty?
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Jayman
Posted 10/11/2007 12:25 PM (#62439 - in reply to #62395)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620



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What are you getting at, Repair man? My Mercury motor on my duck boat let me down opening day. It's the first time I've had to be towed in.

If I had to go by reliability alone, It would be Yammy all the way.
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Shep
Posted 10/11/2007 12:29 PM (#62440 - in reply to #62439)
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But then you'd have to begin earlier, and finish later to get the same amount of fishing time in.

Rude is kinda quiet since he was told Evinrudes are built in WISCONSIN!
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bradley894
Posted 10/11/2007 3:13 PM (#62456 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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ok things are cooling down now... looks like as long as it is big and fast it will be just fine..... now can i get some performance test results on kickers so when my big motor takes a crap i can still get back to the weigh in in time... lol should i go with the 15 hp or can the pro-kicker compete.. what kind of top speeds will i be able to reach ? come on boys i will need to get this rig back on the trailer and to the dealer fast so what do i put on for a kicker?
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/11/2007 6:53 PM (#62463 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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I would definitely go with the Mercury 9.9 Pro Kicker. The Pro Kicker has a lower gear ratio at 2.42:1, which allows maximum thrust, but deliver slow trolling speeds. So pushing a big rig around it will be easier for the Pro Kicker than a regular 15. You will not gain much speed, or really any with a 15. Or I should say not enough in my opinion to go to a 15. The Pro Kicker also comes with power/tilt in trim. But hands down the Pro Kicker all the way, it's definitely leading the kicker engine industry! Hopefully you won't break down to have to worry about using your kicker to get back in but you never know. That's why there good to have.

Edited by Merckid 10/11/2007 6:55 PM
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Jayman
Posted 10/12/2007 8:08 AM (#62470 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620



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"But hands down the Pro Kicker all the way, it's definitely leading the kicker engine industry!"

I will agree that the Pro kicker is a very nice kicker engine, But leading the way? I think they just finally caught up with Yammy's T8.

I'm just curious, how much do you get paid to make those statements?
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/12/2007 9:34 AM (#62473 - in reply to #62470)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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Absolutely nothing! I know they caught up to the T8. That was the kicker to have before, not anymore! Jayman, I like having fun with this. I'm very pro Mercury and have been since I was a little kid watching all the pros on TV racing around with those big black motors. I'm just a very die hard Mercury guy. hehe
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Rayburn36
Posted 10/12/2007 10:25 PM (#62483 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


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Guys

Thanks for the input went a little farther than expected. We all have our brands. Where I live here in northern ontario the yamaha seems to be the norm. I have friends with new mercs that love the mileage on the XS but earplugs are still needed. Unfortunely the rudes don't like the water all my buds that have them have blown them up 2 of them were less than a year old. Yeah some mercs blew up also. More electrical problems though. Yamaha HPDI won't last 5 miles if not broken in properly.
In canada the rude parts are real expensive, not sure why? so with that said thanks again and every brand for himself. Take care
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bradley894
Posted 10/13/2007 9:44 AM (#62491 - in reply to #62483)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


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guys guys! i was just kidding about the kicker motor thing... its interesting how far your willing to go with this pisssssssing match... lol,,, its all good into though... currently i am running the old traditional 9.9 merc 4 stroke with with a panther power lift,,,a good strap and a tr-1 throttle controle... electric start and front controles... its been good to me ... bit i will someday need something diferent and when i do its good to stay up on this new high tech stuff.. Merc Kid ,,, with the way you promote black, i would think you should get what ever you want for free from merc,,,, and if there was a boat builder that needs a good rep ,,, i would recomend the merc kid ,,, he could sell a bayliner to a walleyefisherman...
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TJ DeVoe
Posted 10/15/2007 7:45 AM (#62522 - in reply to #62491)
Subject: Re: F150 on 619 or 620


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Bradley894, I wish I could get whatever I wanted from Mercury! As much as I push there product, and use there product, you would think I could manage something. But nope, just one die hard Merc head. Oh, and be careful what you say, I may have already sold a bayliner to a walleye fisherman, hehe. I've been told I could do that from a few different people.
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hgmeyer
Posted 12/3/2007 11:12 PM (#63634 - in reply to #61828)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620



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Well... this last season at the Lake Pepin FLW Tour event ... As a Co-Angler I fished out of three identical hulls with theree different motors... All Rangers, a 225 E-Tec HO run by an Evinrude sponsored Pro... One that was a F-250 Yamaha... And, a 250XS Merc... Now because of the flight circumstances... all three boats were leaving the marina at the same time just seconds apart... The winner of that drag race was the 225 E-Tec, every day, even the day I was riding in it... Now, not by much, but it was clear that the E-Tec ws the fastest. And, I am sure that the "fcats" given me by the XS owner were true... he had spent quite a bit getting the max out of his motor... The "particular" Yamaha F-250 was stock it was truly amazing... The owner admitted that it was truly a "one of a kind" because even he knew of no other F-250 that ran as well as his... I looked at GPS on the E-Tec rigged boat and occassionally saw 60+...

Couldn't g uarantee that the factors and results would be repeatable and obviously a WHOLE LOT depended on the setup, some luck, and the driver... But, given that all there were factory supported Pros and that all three was very experienced and impressive boat drivers... it was at least interesting.
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T-Mac
Posted 12/6/2007 2:30 PM (#63730 - in reply to #62184)
Subject: RE: F150 on 619 or 620


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Remember- man who have gas in church sit in own pew




I like that one!!!!!!


PS- I wouldn't do a 150 on a 619. The F-150 will only push a 1850 Reata about 46mph around here. And the 619 is a lot more boat than an 1850 Reata

Edited by T-Mac 12/6/2007 2:31 PM
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